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Man itâs weird, reflecting on the Stargate franchiseâs 17-season multi-movie television juggernaut now, in the context of the 90â˛s, the 2000â˛s, 9/11, military imperialism, and cultural shifts through the years.
Like, the original SG-1, at least up until season 8 or so, is in retrospect so obviously a Cold War narrative. The main thematic conflict the whole series is founded on is the idea of negotiation vs violence: when can we talk it out and when do we shoot? How can we keep our people safe in the face of overwhelming danger, when we know, the stronger we get and the harder we fight, the more we might provoke the enemy? What is it even ethical for us to do with and to and for another culture? There are fair-weather allies that become enemies that become allies again, thereâs the literal Goaâuld scare of they could be anyone, and how would we even know?, and our biggest Earthside antagonists are either a shadowy three-letter government spy agency, or Russia. Cold War. It gets more complicated as seasons go on, as your biggest Goaâuld threat turns out to be Baâal who looks like a legitimate businessman right here on Earth, as the Lucien Alliance starts putting itself together like the Russian Mafia in the aftermath of the fall of the USSR.
SGA on the other hand is 100% about the Iraq War/Afghanistan, starting when our intrepid band of protagonists roves off to another galaxy in search of power sources and weaponry they can claim for their very own. The entire Daniel Jackson âletâs talk it out!â goes out the windowâWraith donât negotiate, period, ever, and also nobody on our gate team particularly cares to try. Instead, our whole main thematic conflict is, how do we deal with the legacy of our forebearersâ mistakes, and also our own, which is absolutely a cornerstone question of the whole Iraq conflict. Every single recurring enemy in SGA was either created or made much, much worse specifically because of something our protagonists do, from Michael to the Asurans all the way back to waking the Wraith up in the first place. Most of the problems around the Pegasus galaxy were caused by the Ancients, who the natives call âthe Ancestorsâ and various members of the Atlantis team can literally claim as their own ancestors, screwing around and interfering and making a mess and then fucking off to let everybody else deal with it. I could probably write an entire essay. There is a massive essay to write.
And, right, in both of these shows, the military are the good guys!!! In SG-1, they need to be tempered by Daniel and his âhey maybe donât shoot the first people we meet on a new planetâ, but fighting the Goaâuld is good and right and even if weâre not going to kill them all, itâs better if we prove we can kill them all, just in case. Thereâs a lot of the warm-fuzzies of âweâre taking down genocidal Cold War dictator-proxies!â, which is very nice. Thereâs a whole lot less of âand then, the Vietnam War.â Thereâs definitely reference to how the planets our heroes pick to draw their line in the sand often suffer for it far worse than Earth does, but it all kind of gets glossed overâitâs fine, bad things happen but itâs fine, itâs just the price of freedom. Which makes a lot of sense in a post-Cold War context, when the show is drawing from decades of tension and conflict that are over now. In 1996 and 1997, when the Cold War was over but everybody still remembered it, and good sci-fi about the threat of planetary nuclear annihilation or possibly getting taken over by aliens/communism was really appealing in a âand the good guys win!â way. So we can pick the parts that make for good TV and admirable heroes, rewrite the history so itâs not as scary, and tweak it a little more to make the good guys always good.
SGA actually does a lot less skimming over of âhey here are all the reasons our protags are actually pretty awful!â Theyâre explicitly responsible for pretty much every bad thing in the Pegasus Galaxy, and it comes up and gets talked about. Which makes a ton of sense in the context of 2004-2009 when the show aired, as the Middle East kept exploding and almost settling out and then exploding again, and probably it was all the USâs fault in the first placeâthe idea of a military that fucked up and created their own worst enemies was very much in the public consciousness. Which makes it even more interesting that SGA somehow managed to keep the military, and their various civilian and occasionally native allies, as the good guys. The ethic of the show seemed to be, âokay we fucked up, and every time we try to fix it we usually fuck something else up even worse, but at least we keep trying.â The last guys who screwed Pegasus up said âthe hell with itâ and took off, leaving Wraith and ruins and all sorts of gene-locked booby traps behind them, so our protags get all the credit for trying to stick it out even though theyâre fundamentally operating on a really sketchy foundation of imperialism and would-be genocide. Â
Itâs just really interesting watching these shows now. The early seasons of SG-1 feel so culturally distant, from the way they try so hard at feminism (and they are very sincere in trying very hard!) to the way the whole show is simultaneously so pro-military, and unabashedly, joyfully pro-science and discovery. Early 2000â˛s SG-1 goes out of its way not to even admit anythingâs going on in the middle east at all, which is part of why itâs such a departure when John Sheppard shows up straight out of Afghanistan. Comparing Jack OâNeill and John Sheppard, and what rank and duty and obedience and insubordination mean to each of them in the context of the very different wars they each fought before they ended up among the stars, is super illustrative and super interesting.  Comparing any of it to the world of 2018 is interesting, too, because I donât know what a Stargate franchise would have to look like today. What war are we fighting any more? What war could we feel good about fighting? You donât see a ton of sci-fi these days when the good guys are the government.
This all makes total sense! Really well said. I bet this is a big part of why Stargate Universe felt so differentâand why it never got as popular. Universe didnât have a fundamentally comforting sort of fantasy like this. Itâs just a bunch of people trapped on a decaying husk that barely supports life, betrayed by people in power, in constant tension with their own wants and needs and the looming shadow of the increasingly unrecognizable world they can never go back to but canât let go of, canât be free from.Â
Which is pretty much, you know. The Millennial experience.
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Thinking about how Stargate Universe was a genuinely beautiful show with a depth of complex emotion and real moral ambiguity whose central themes revolved around hope but everyone slept on it because it had a different tone than the other series
Ok ALSO....thinking about how Ming-Na Wen plays an entire LESBIAN character in this series as part of the main cast, with her own motivations and development, AND doesn't get killed. In 2009!! Anyway SGU was robbed
Thinking about how Stargate Universe was a genuinely beautiful show with a depth of complex emotion and real moral ambiguity whose central themes revolved around hope but everyone slept on it because it had a different tone than the other series
I guess I just⌠forgot what Sonequa Martin-Greenâs micro-expressions do to me? She moves one tiny muscle in her face and my entire heart shatters.
michael burnham is literally one of the best star trek characters imo and the fact that it SHOWS in s3 when she meets the federation officer is just so good. she deserves to be told that she is the hope đĽş

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I MISSED MICHAEL BURNHAM SO GODDAMNED MUCH!!!!!
Any sci-fi media: the spaceship is a character
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It was not just that I failed to see the clues laid out before me. Â It was that it was you, John. Â For Godâs sake - it was you!
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