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samuel said: WHORE
history repeats itself

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Everything feels like being molested
Sam finding out about Johndean and his first thought - as much as he hates that it's the first thing that comes to mind - is whether or not Dean would have also slept with him.
Dean finding out that Sam's also attracted to him and wondering - and he hates that it's his first thought too - if that means he had something that would have Sam not leave.
(answers are yes and no, respectively)
The thing is Dean having his own value measured by his body's usefulness within/for his family is delicious. His body is a weapon and a tool, and it can also be something for his family's enjoyment - which are all things that John taught and conditioned him into. But I'm a romantic, so Sam would be the one who would break that <3

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Spn said what if we gave our hypermasc coolguy action hero the most devastating case of eldest daughter syndrome you’ve ever seen. What if we made him a mommy. And yk what that’s the kind of forward thinking that gets you 15 seasons
2x01 would be a good time for Sam to reveal that he's known for years about Johndean. That scene where Sam and John are arguing and John tells Sam he should have shot him, Sam says that yeah, maybe he should. But the worst part is that he couldn't, because if he'd done that, Dean would've never forgiven him, and all because John had made him that way.
Dean manages to break the glass of water, but it happens when Sam goes on and asks if John isn't worried about his son, if Dean was only an easy thing for him to order around and fuck whenever he wanted to.
Then the plot of the episode goes mostly as it does, only with more strained scenes between John and Sam obviously, and Dean extremely distressed and ashamed while also trying not to die (when Tessa is trying to convince him to let himself be reaped, she tells him he won't need to face that shame, and maybe that's what tempts him the most).
And then later when Sam realizes John made a deal, he feels a sort of bittersweet satisfaction that he was the one who handed John all the items necessary for the summoning ritual. Sam had always kind of wanted to kill John for touching Dean, but it went from him not being able to do it (he thought he was too young to pull it off, then he couldn't do it because Dean would never forgive him), so that's the closest he could get to doing it, and it feels... Good.
Of course, Dean doesn't remember anything, so he thinks that now with John dead there's no way Sam will ever find out, which is a huge relief, because Sam learning about it is the last thing he wants to happen.
1x14 is the one (or the main) thing that makes me think Sam wouldn't have known about Johndean pre-series (1x22/2x01 would in that situation be the perfect moment for the reveal, not necessarily becauze of Azazel, but his presence there does make it a likely scenario/an easy plot device).
So in terms of that subject specifically, the draft of a timeline would be:
1x14 ending with Sam being curious about what the hell Dean was talking about.
Then they meet John and he starts watching Dean and John and it's like seeing them with new eyes - certainly, he has to be wrong.
(Samdean feelings are also in the background (or in the foreground too, those can never be contained), of course, which makes everything both better and worse.)
He's in denial, but Azazel then bursts the bubble and for the first time Sam truly sees his family in all its ugly truths.
2x01 goes as it does, but with Sam feeling some satisfaction for being the one who ultimately handed John the instruments of his own destruction, once he understands why John summoned the demon.
Sam does some reading on the subject and feels so guilty for never noticing what was going on, because there are so many obvious signs that Dean's displayed since forever.
It becomes such a touchy subject (for him), and that's why he acts *like that* in Jus in Bello when Henriksen says John molested Dean.
Teen Dean, completely serious and earnest, explaining to someone how it was he who seduced his father.
Johndean reveal in Devil's Trap + Dean after John's death, ashamed but determined, explaining to Sam how he seduced their father.
(Sam, who brought up the subject in a moment when Dean was being critical of John, believing that it would be the perfect opportunity, only to slowly come to the horrifying realization that his brother truly believes he seduced their father when he was a child.)

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Kid Sam talking to other children and a lot of things they say about their mothers is just what Dean is for him <3
// “From the time I was very young, my father told me that we were one person, that I was just a part of him. I grew up with that inside me. I grew up with him inside me.” The Incest Diary - Anonymous
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First one Dean, second one Bela in S3
SUPERNATURAL S03E12 - Jus in Bello

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14 yr old sam should get 18 yr old dean pregnant ANYWAY
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