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I understand that the narrative chose to use these specific lines.

"God does not play dice with the universe; plays an ineffable game of own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players [i.e. everybody], to being involved in an obscure and complex variant of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a Dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time" - GOOD OMENS BOOK

and "Maybe it's all part of a great big ineffable plan. All of it. You, me, everything. Some great big test to see if what you've built all works properly, eh? You start thinking: it can't be a great cosmic game of chess, it has to be just very complicated Solitaire". - GOOD OMENS BOOK

The plot itself says that God placed Satan as opponent so would have someone to play with. He's nothing more than a pawn too!

And, remember, Solitaire is a one-on-one game!

How to solve it? It's difficult! The finale was an attempt to directly answer the central dramatic question: how could people continue in a system that was a game for God (and is, since the book), how to solve this problem?

The realization of this has an impact Crowley; and it makes them, he and Aziraphale, choose a new universe, in an attempt to overcome the one where they were created and in which they were nothing more than pawns.

I understand the Finale narratively, in this respect. But many things remain open; is the new universe really what they asked for? And if it isn't?

Are they or are they not Asa and Anthony? If they are, what are the implications? If they aren't, what is the explanation for so much similarity? They didn't want anything ineffable for that new universe, but isn't everything that happens in the new universe already ineffable enough?

In the END, God caught them alone. The world was already destroyed when they were allowed to ask 'the questions' and 'reach a decision'; they had no one left to fight with them against God, and accepting God's idea of ​​putting everything back in the same place doesn't seem very sensible after all.

But a new universe, I'm not sure if it was the right decision either, especially since we don't know if it was a bluff by God (as it seems it was).

I find myself thinking that a Tolkien-style ending, where the immortals had to leave Earth, would be better as a 'final decision'.

Instead of Crowley and Aziraphale, it could be Adam and Josh/Jesus at the end facing God, asking for the world back, but everything supernatural, angels, demons, heaven, hell, God and Satan, would need to stay away. At most, they could observe from afar, without interfering… those who wanted to stay and interfere could simply stay, but as humans, and all the laws governing the universe from then on would be the laws of physics and nothing more.

So Aziraphale and Crowley could choose to stay, or not. And they could talk about their feelings and their actions, keeping their memories, they could decide whether or not to be a couple. They would decide about the bookshop and the Bentley, and whether or not they would go to South Downs!

The ending that the plot officially could have been MUCH different. I think we all wanted it to be different!

The problem is that since the second season, remove the humans from the focus (S2 simply ignored all the other humans from season 1, Anathema, Newt, Tracy, EVERYONE), and put Crowley and Aziraphale as protagonists. A fatal flaw in the plot, it seems.

But then I remember Agnes Nutter's prophecies…

"Further Nife and Accurate Prophecies of Agnes Nutter," Anathema read slowly, "Concerning the World that Is To Come; Ye Saga Continuef l Oh, my . . .". - GooD Omens Book.

And I keep wondering if… this new world we see is about that on Finale.

In any case, I was left with the feeling that God won! Yep, without heaven and hell, ok, it's no longer playing cosmic chess, but this is still Solitaire, isn't it?

God is playing Solitaire and everyone continues to be her playing cards?

It doesn't sound encouraging at all as a message.

Whatever God is playing, it's still a game in the end… how can I be positive about it? Trying to reconcile myself with this idea, but it's difficult.

I'm glad that humans still exist and, apparently, are happy in the new world, including the new versions of Aziraphale and Crowley, but I'm concerned about the implications of what this new world/universe represents.

Louis Ralph just uploaded this Good Omens 3 concept artwork to his online portfolio.

This could have been so beautiful. It was supposed to be so beautiful.

They’re them. Under Crowley’s stars, surrounded by the attributes of their past, safely cocooned by centuries of shared memories and held by their future. Crowley haphazardly draped in his chair, Aziraphale pointing out the shooting star. A walking cane lovingly propped up against the arm of a favorite chair. The bitten apple between them. Holding hands. They’re exactly as they should be.

We could have had the most moving, most tenderly heartfelt end that didn’t fucking break so many of us while insisting that broken things cannot be fixed.

There is more warmth and intimacy in this concept art than the entire finale.

The fourth wall

Aloe vera plants

Reeds

Ferns

Willow trees

Tangled wires (free space)

Gravity

Salmon?????

In what universe is any of this ok?! What’s wrong with humanity, I‘m at a loss for words, and frankly, I‘m disgusted

I get that you’re sad, disappointed and heartbroken over the finale, and those feelings are absolutely valid, and talking about them is absolutely OK.

But for the love of someone, PLEASE f*ck off and touch some grass.

The *screen ratio* changes when we go from one universe to another. Up until the epilogue, we watch everything in cinematic widescreen, with black bars on the top and bottom.

And then when we reach the epilogue, those bars... they go away. We've broken through.

something may be a bad piece of media and you might still like it, and the opposite is also true. sometimes, a piece of media is good and one still dislikes it. and, most of the times, media is not easily categoriesed as good or bad and people will still love and hate it.

Good omens has an extremely emotionally taxing ending. there's a lot to digest and to process and think about, both in screen and surrounding the process of its creation.

A lot of people has been taking their first emotional reaction as negative. putting feelings like grief, sadness and anger under the umbrella of "bad", and so tagging the finale like that too. I don't agree with that.

these 90 minutes are being extremely hard on me. I still can't put it to proper words, and I probably won't for a long while. But what I can say for now is that it's a good ending. Not a perfect one, not what we would've choosen, but a good one. there's a lot LOT of things in it that are flawed, and most of them tie back to the season being compressed into a movie. but there's also a lot LOT of well done things.

I hope that the fandom in general will be able to discuss this without antagonising each other. even if you think the end was not good (and there's things that back up that thought) this discussion is good. the back and forth of theories and analysis and discussion about character arcs and all the fan creations, are what make fandom.

After everything they'd gone through together, all their history, their love spanning 6000 years, they literally vanished into dust.

Their "human versions" are not them. They met each other in their 50s? 60s? and will get like 30 or so years together.

No sticking together for centuries despite being from opposite factions in an eternal conflict, no developing their rivalry, friendship, and eventually love throughout the ages, no having each other's back despite the dangers of doing so, no bickering, no rescuing each other, no "you go too fast for me, Crowley", no 'our' Bentley, no "angel" as a pet name, NO THEM. At all.