Greetings and salutations, my name's Shady and I'm opening a tumblr blog for everything related to all my art and personal projects. I'm a multifandom artist, animator, webcomic writer and I've been jumping between social medias tryna branch out for the sake of my upcoming webcomic and general art exposure.
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"Toby Fox announced Deltarune chapter 5 this soon bc he knew that TADC was ending and the internet people needed something to latch onto once it was all over" - someone on twitter
Big fan of that whole phenomenon where people at bus stops would be looking at their phones or staring off into space and even if the roads empty, there's no bus coming, if someone looks down the road, so will everyone else without thinking about it
Went comic con a few weeks ago but never posted anything about it. Here's the business card haul from the day as well as all the other stuff that caught my eye
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Any Thunderstruck headcanons you wouldn't mind sharing?
It's acc surprising how little I think about headcannons in fandom spaces. I could provide literature analysis type essays on symbolism, plot and characters, yk I'd understand the characters, but not enough to have headcannons for them. I hate straying from any authors visions for some reason
This deadass took me two hours to type out, its a real long read and a scene by scene analysis of the entirety of episode 9
Just returned from the theatre screening, tearing my hair out at my inability to do a frame by frame dissection the way I did with episode 8, and the fact that I can't put supporting images and screenshots in, but yk, if you're reading this to begin with, you don't need to be artificially entertained to be interested in my analysis
I remember seeing a spoiler where someone says Jax abstracts in the first 8 minutes and highkey all "spoilers" have been so completely out there that its one of those things where I didn't deep it, but, no, he does in fact abstract in the first 8 minutes. Really anticlimatic, but it serves a purpose and it really differs from his abstraction scene in ep 7 where its his perspective on his own abstraction vs ep 9 where its the others' perspective on his abstraction and it somewhat focusses on aftermath of dealing with someone thats, gone. All the same, still really lacked impact. If you think back to Kaufmos abstraction, also an abstraction viewed from an outside perspective, its presented as a shock, its presented as the horror that it is - someone that you know is no longer with you.
And then Pomni and Ragatha are essentially watching his corpse run around and they start crying and hugging about how much they love each other and how glad that theyre friends?????? I was throwing hands up at that in the theatre, that was really out of place for me?? Which again, its all supposed to support that exploration of the overall theme of loss and how sometimes thats what it takes to appreciate what you have in the present. But I dont know. Start of episode 8, Pomni and Gangle are like ooOoOoO Jax we know youre a jerk but we're all this together!1!!! Don't leave us Jax!!1!11 And then they just let him walk away half an hour later at the start of ep 9. I mean, sure, its justifiable, they had bigger things to worry about. But the writing of the characters IS very very inconsistent with how much the others seem to actually care about Jax and how close they hold him. I also think about what he wanted to say to Pomni before he said "nevermind" and walked off.
But then additonally, Gangles line where she says she feels bad about not being able to cry for Jax, its further commentary on the whole thing about how death is permanent. While theres smthn that can be done, we see the characters try to reach out, but yk, hes gone. People die. And theres nothing you can do about it. Death doesnt have to be impactful, or climactic (or whatever the word is), it just is. The message is that theres always more that you can do when youre both still there, but once the other person goes past the point of no return, all feelings are complicated and justifiable.
I don't know what to think about abstraction. Its supposed to be permanent, I think, I personally dont want it to be, I want them to have happy endings, but yk, the beauty of episode 9 is that you dont always get that happy ending. And so here we see Pomni go after Jax in that futile attempt to reverse his fate
Beautiful sequence as a whole. The fact that they present his mind as a corridoor with rooms is interesting, yet to come to a conclusion about what it all implies. Not sure if thats genuinely how Jax processes thoughts or if that was only a way of presenting his psyche to the viewer but that, room, was quite akin to the way some people's thoughts exist in paracosms, small worlds within your mind, for you, yourself and your thoughts, often with other people or visual representations of your thoughts, some big dissociative thing to let you think and separate yourself from the outside world, space to breathe. The space that the paracosm becomes almost always represents some key aspect of ones life, for Jax that ended up being the rooms in the circus' corridoor with everyones bedrooms. I mean, those rooms were really the only spaces in the circus where characters had space to themselves, representing a space, a place that holds the true nature of someone and their secrets. Jax, along with his whole motif of keys and knowing and having access to everyone while not giving them access to himself, its all reflected really well with his paracosm. Shutting others out in an attempt to retain control in a circus where he lacks it. His room being that singular safe space. Reminder that even though we as viewers have seen his room, we don't know if other circus members have. Tldr the room paracosm represents how much secret keeping has become a key part of his identity.
Then the four Jaxs. Pomni says smthn about how theyre supposed to represent how he views the others. That whole thing about seeing everyone as archetypes and a simple digestible extreme. The way each Jax acts in each other characters respective sequence doesn't exactly match the character, I think it was supposed to say smthn about the relationship?????? Smthn about how Jax wants to be seen in the other characters eyes???? Idk.
Pomnis Jax, smthn about how Jax resorts to extreme violence and reckless abandon around Pomni and then writes it off as a joke, claiming to be close but always holding her at arms length, using force if he has to
Gangles Jax. I was giggling and kicking my feet quite audibly in the theatre for this one. This ones smthn about how their relationship revolves entirely around Jax humiliating Gangle. And we see Gangle turn the tables in episode 5, and Jax, likes it I guess????? Its some two way street of not taking each other seriously. This one was somewhat sexualised as well (maybe not quite sexualised, it wasnt that extreme, but yk what I mean), a heehee haha sex joke kinda thing, which is also somewhat what Jax uses to write off his whole thing for the maid dress. Its this exposure of smthn that he hides deep within himself and the only way to indulge in it is to write it off as an unironic funny flirty thing. Ough I've got the most to say about this one bc Jax and Gangle are my two top favourite characters, their freakish unacknowledged almost co dependance lives rent free in my mind. I also find it interesting that Jax has Gangle wear their Spudsys mask for this one, even though Jax makes it really clear that they prefer Gangles sad mask, another thing about wanting control and a reaction out of tormenting her. I reaalllyyy dont know what to make of that one, its another thing to add to his whole thing of wanting to be able to indulge in things and be able to write it off. He wants to joke around and be his "maid Jax" self in a more genuine and real way, around Gangles, who, with the Spudys mask is, someone that can communicate better, someone who a bit more on the same level as Jax emotionally ig, therefore giving Jax a more, "real", reaction. Maybe its bc Jax gets a kick out of being to tease someone that doesnt crumble instantly in the way Gangle would with their sad mask. Maybe its bc he doesnt see Spudys Gangle as the "real" Gangle, letting him roleplay in a more freer way, bc its not reaalllyyy Gangle, that interaction isnt really real
And then Zooble Jax. Not much to say about this one. I liked the artstyle for it tho. A lot. Can't wait to rewatch it in two weeks time to get myself some screenshots to stash away. Smthn smthn Jax tries to present himself as the funny guy archetype
And then we have the room where we see them all together. Playing Poker. Somewhat niche reference??, but for anyone that has read Streetcar Named Desire by Tenessee Williams, scene three, the most notable scene of the play, where the men are playing poker, its supposed to add stuff to the play's running exploration of masculinity and poker this big symbolism thing of performative masculinity.
The pianos got to have symbolism as well,, Maybe its a reference to Caine playing the piano in "Running The Show", he just wants to play his piano and be loved, his whole thing of being the funny guy is a parallel expression of that need. And they put the shy version of Jax behind the piano, the most repressed part of himself, repressing his desire and ability to express his need for love
Then we see the whole sequence of him and Ribbit. I thought it was nice. It was simple. It wasnt too deep. It explained stuff. But it was quite self explanatory. Thats just what it was. I think its a shame he turned on Ribbit after revealing his backstory. I liked their friendship. And I dont quite understand why he did it either?? He walked off saying oughhh Im so stupid guys Im so stupid and then does a complete 180 for no clear reason. Smthn smthn to do with associating the revealing of secrets with negative outcomes bc of his mum and therefore turning on Ribbit in an attempt to regain control of the situation. Idk
A real large percentage of spoilers have seen involved people talking about how stupid it was for Jax to have died and how messed up of a message it was to say that people who suffer with what he suffered with wont get better.
"You can talk to me now." "...I dont want to leave..."
I loved that scene. Favourite bit of the episode. You can hear the regret. And I think thats enough of a message for me. The lamp that he stands next to? Light symbolises realisation and the uncovering of secrets. Its, once again, that reminder that abstraction and death are permanent, and once the deeds done, its too late, and regret, as powerful as it may be, serves no purpose. This one, hits the hardest, I have little to say about it, but I feel the strongest about this scene. I came real close to crying in the theatre, and Im crying now as I write this. Im also crying bc Ive got "Isnt She Lovely" playing in the background. Fun fact, the brain will often replay key moments from your life as it dies.
I was really hoping theyd be able to bring Jax back. I liked him. I wanted him to have his second chance. But yk, like Ive said, ig thats not the message.
And then Caine appears??? And I was like what the freak I thought he was dead??? And it was lowkey weird the way they pivot focus randomly from Caine in ep 8 to Jax in ep 9. Yea idk they didnt handle Cains arc particularly well, there was VERY clearly much more to the whole Caine and Abel red and blue ordeal and very few questions were answered. So little was given about it all that I dont have much to say or think about it. Caine says that he gave up his power when he gave up the blue thingy inside, but we dont acc see what power he gave up bc he seems to willingly say idrc anymore its not like I want to use my powers much anymore. He brings himself down to the same level as the circus members, getting involved in actvities, sitting at their table, talking as friends, I thought that was cute. Caine's, also one of my favourite characters, so Im really happy with this ending where he doesnt just die.
Clone theory. Ive heard stuff about this weeks, maybe months before ep 9 and I dismissed, I didnt like this theory. Ive been quite against theories to do with the member finding out about their past selves in any way in general, I kinda, didnt want any real world involvement. This little circus world that Ive grown so attached to, I wanted it to remain, I wanted the show to end in that setting and that setting only. But highkey I dont mind the ending. It was neat. Cute. Nicely written. I think, the members go on about how much they wanted to return to the real world but yk, could one really go back to the real world after having lived in the circus for so long, so its a nice bit of closure, that theyre free to live their own lives, theyve changed and grown, theyre not the same person they were when they joined the circus. Theyve found meaning in a stagnant life.
10/10 really cool ending, Im happy about it, genuinely dont know why the fandom threw such a fit over the leaks, maybe I should just spend less time on twitter. I hope we see more content revolving around the tadc from glitch, yk we've seen extra stuff to do with Murder Drones, hopefully tadc stuff isnt off the table. Gooseworx has gotten hell for the show in the lead up to ep 9, they just sound so exhausted in every post they make now, itd be understandable if we didnt get future content, Im satisfied with what we got.
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Would I look weird if I pull up to tomorrow's screening of TADC ep 9 wearing my Helluva Boss hoodie, like idk that's the only merch I own of anything I just want the masses to know I'm as terminally online as they are
Some art of the gang ahead of the finale dropping in theaters tomorrow. I can't believe this is the last time we are all waiting for a new episode together, I feel quite sentimental. What a ride it's been. If you're seeing it tomorrow, godspeed. And remember, be good to yourself and be good to others <3
Sorry if I already asked this (bad memory) but favourite Thunderstruck character and moments?
Gah fun fact, you're my first ask on Tumblr, so thanks for the question
Nim's my favourite (Zayas a REAL close second tho, theyre both really well written) just bc it was their Triple Threat suit design that caught my brain in a snare (it gave tumblr sexyman vibes, I couldn't resist having a sneak peek at the comic). And then it was the writing and the handling of their moral dilemma and identity as the person that they are
Favourite moment - the scene where Zaya explains the telekentic field thing, only bc that scene ended up being major inspiration for the worldbuilding of the magic system in my own webcomic, so that scene particularly stuck with me
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The act of eating and the struggles surrounding it are persistent throughout Objectified. Nearly half the cast have something that causes eating to be a struggle, whether that's Minty and Dynamite being carnivores or Citrus and Mushroom's particular diets, or even further beyond. This is something I've been thinking about for a while and just want to prattle off a sort-of overview regarding it, going over each character who has a unique relationship to consumption. Don't expect it to be anything super professional, just stuff I've observed!
Content Warnings: Major Objectified spoilers, cannibalism, gore and body horror, child abuse, animal death, bug imagery, and eating disorders. This is also just a Lot of text. All good? Let's go!
1- A5 WAGYU and eating as control
Wagyu is a character surrounded by the act of consumption. He had grown up in a home that was actively abusing and using him for his flesh, in an area of the Rings that would rather jump through endless logical hoops to justify eating the corpses of Wagyu and his siblings than consider his well-being. Wagyu, naive as he is with this upbringing being his only experience with life, struggles to see the problem. In fact, he prides himself on this persistent lack of control that he doesn't realize he's missing, and that mindset never leaves him. He's been successfully groomed into believing he is meant to be eaten, and little else is allowed of him. One could argue that Wagyu has thrown himself into the same logical leaps as his abusers. Still, this gives him a false sense of control, and he is able to indulge himself in the luxuries that this life affords him, notably food-- One of the things he laments about missing often.
When the apocalypse hits and Wagyu is forced away from his family, he eats. He eats so much that his teammates hate him because he is starving them. He associates food with control so much that it is all he can think to do in a world that is ripping it away from him so quickly. However, as the assimilation begins to seep into him, Wagyu loses his hunger more and more. His control is ripped away from him once more, piece by piece, both metaphorically and literally as he begins to do the bidding of what is presumably the Symbiote and parasite hivemind at large, and with it his hunger fades. This loss of control seems to be something that he almost takes pride in. It's comfortable, when he doesn't think about it too much. Most that are traumatized will often find a loss of control comforting, as part of a self-harm driven desire to return back to their restrictive shell.
One could also argue that this in itself is also consumption, as more and more people are 'fed' into the parasite hivemind as a result of his actions, though it's not to Wagyu's knowledge and is more in relation to the parasites themselves. On this note, are the parasites not also actively consuming Wagyu over and over, just as others did in his normal life? It's just a bit more.. Visceral, this time.
2- RAZOR, DYNAMITE, and identity
Razor takes pride in being a carnivore. She is, in fact, an omnivore, but she seems to want to hide this fact in an effort to be more intimidating (and enact violence, likely as an early sign of delirium).
It's easy to imagine this is related to her pride regarding her pack and Fuzzball. Razor packs aren't necessarily any more vicious than any other Outer Ring bestial, but nearly every member of the pack hasn't been afraid to bare their teeth and throw a threat or two to whoever gets in their way. It's part of the identity of being a razor, to our Razor, as it's what she's grown up with. Razor also successfully killed an object and got away with it at a young age, which may be a point of pride for her ego.
I also believe this is tied to Razor's relationship with her father, Warhammer. All of Packmother's children seem to take pride in also being Warhammer's kids, and this is no different for Razor.
This is, unquestionably, a part of her identity. Warhammer is a man of great prestige in Outer Ring, and other bestials in the ring seem to heavily covet his very presence and yearn to follow in his footsteps.
I was instead quickly distracted by the finer details of the dead tree. Embedded within Warhammers claw marks were smaller claw marks of other monsters. I am still unsure what to make of it.
He is also someone who seems to be revered as strong and intimidating, despite his seemingly practical approach to things. Warhammer casts a heavy shadow on the pack, and especially Razor, who feels even closer to him as she wears Fuzzball's corpse much like Warhammer wears Faux's. Razor's desires to be someone of power and respect likely have seed here, and it's easy to imagine that someone without wisdom would include a penchant for violence as part of that desire.
Dynamite, on the other hand, seems to initially actively reject being a carnivore. It is something he seems to have wanted to hide for all of his life. It's also implied that the other kids in Middle Ring have made these feelings even worse.
I'm also aware that the panels with him eating rocks were intended to be kind of an in-joke, but it's hard not to look at them and imagine that Dynamite has a form of pica (an eating disorder that causes cravings for non-food items) as both a manifestation of him wanting to hide that he needs to eat meats and a potential sign that he has deficiencies as a result of potentially not eating in front of others.
Thankfully, of course, the razor pack is successfully managing to start teaching him the 'right way' to be a carnivore without being able to buy food, a way that he doesn't regret every move of. In finally succeeding to hunt an animal for food purposes, this seems to be the beginning of accepting who he is as a person. He is gaining his sense of identity as an individual and embracing this, and this is near entirely portrayed through his consumption.
However, upon the killing and eating of Drum and others, Dynamite remains haunted. Over time, he tries as hard as possible to justify his actions, but the trauma stays. He can't imagine how others might see him if things ever go back to normal, and has been increasingly unstable and anxious over the course of the comic as a result. The guilt lives within him, despite just doing what he needs to to survive. In this way, he shares a little bit of overlap with our next subject…
3- CITRUS and the guilt of staying alive
The act of eating, as we know it, is inherently greedy. Both humans and animals alike eat for the sole purpose of keeping themselves alive in favor of others, and this perceptive greed is exaggerated further when things like the underpaid work put into tending fields or the mass slaughter of animals is put into consideration.
This concept is kind of put into overdrive when we look at Citrus.
The first real victim Citrus had, as we know, was his (unknowingly) adoptive mother, Calamondin. This is directly tied to the fact that his birth mother, Morrigan, created him as essentially cattle to be slaughtered. Although he tries not to show it, these two facts are things that would proceed to haunt him for the rest of his life. They seem to live within him practically every waking moment, and he will often see signs of and subconsciously reference both things throughout the comic.
Citrus has dedicated his entire life to holding people at arms length at closest as a direct result of this. As far as he's concerned, anyone getting in any sort of relationship with him is completely out of the realm of possibility, due to his relationship with eating. After all, he dared to feel a connection to Cal, and.. Well, we saw what happened there.
However, as we see him throughout the comic, despite his best efforts, Citrus falls for Spool, and immediately he begins to tie this to his traumas. His angelic vision of Spool has black wings to represent fear stemming from what was instilled in him from Morrigan, and once they have time together, all he can think of is how he took Cal's life away piece by piece.
Living for Citrus is something he actively feels the need to repent for. He doesn't show it as visibly as Dynamite, but this is only due to his lack of emotional connection. Once emotions come into view, he crumbles. Some part of him knows how greedy he is for the very act of existing, and he feels strongly about it.
And yet, whether it's out of obligation or emotion, Spool either ensures he is fed or willingly gives parts of himself to Citrus. Although Spool doesn't really have his own relationship to consumption, it's clear he sees it as important to some degree, and keeping Citrus fed is a priority to him one way or another, and this desire only grows stronger as the two get closer (whether that's due to starsheet or otherwise).
4- MINTY, BRANDY, and food as love
Minty and Brandy are a unique pairing of characters for objectified in that their relationships with food come up very little throughout the comic so far. To most casual eyes, we know that Minty's dietary restrictions mean he has mostly been eating dry crunchies ever since his world began to end, and that's about it. It's rarely brought up if ever, and isn't even given as a reason for them to leave the apartment, for short or long term.
This is something that has admittedly stumped me for a while, so I reached out to our resident Minty expert @mintyobjectified. Thanks, Minty! It was able to point some things out for me.
Although food isn't of extreme concern for them just yet, it was something that had a focus on it earlier in the comic. Once things start going to hell, Minty brings up the specific fact that he will starve in the outskirts. Brandy shortly goes out and gathers food for the group, but specifically, especially Minty. Later, we get a sequence of Minty and Brandy eating dinner together. Minty sees this as a romantic scene, close and gentle, with vague hopes that all of the problems between them could go away, while Brandy only sees Minty as colder and farther away than ever before. The sight of him seems to disgust Brandy.
After this, food is never brought up again between them. It's easy, therefore, to come to the conclusion that food and the act of eating between them is an act of love. One could even argue that their lack of focus on food is a direct parallel to their relationship. In the beginning, Brandy still harbored some feeling for Minty, a softness. There was still the ghost of their love looming over their heads. Brandy didn't have the heart to kick Minty out on the street, and he certainly didn't have the heart to let Minty starve.
But not anymore.
The lack of focus on food between them is in direct parallel to the lack of focus on themselves and each other. They are hiding their relationship woes from Sugarcube as best as they can, just as they hide their hunger.
And then, y'know, Minty dies, just as Sugarcube begins to question how strained things are getting, and she is soon to be forced to face the reality of everything, despite her fathers' best efforts.
SIDE TANGENT: DRAGONSCALE AND GUM
Dragonscale distinctly does not have much of a relationship with food, but I do think she belongs here in some fashion for similar reasons. Dragonscale notably was surrounded by food objects in the Burning Aisles, especially with her parent, and we rarely see her eating. I do believe this has something to do with her lack of care and potential lack of affection in her upbringing, as we see her eat quite a lot with Ghost Pepper by her side and little otherwise.
Gum has a closer relationship with food, as she actively tries to keep herself and her teammates fed and this is what brings her closer to Razor. This is where the obvious food/love parallel comes into play, but I also believe there's something to be said about her being a living food object and the majority of her targets/exes taking physical bites at her. In this way, "food" (Gum herself) represents love when it is abused or otherwise taken for granted by others.
5- MUSHROOM, COMET, otherness, and the dead
I'm a little bit weaker with Comet, as she suffers from not having a buuunch of screen time like the other main cast do, but I do want to make note of her before I move on to Mushroom. Most notably, Comet hunts her own food, and she is dedicated to using every part of the bodies that she creates and comes across.
This, I believe, is inspired by Native American practices in meta context, but here in the world of Objectified I am going to attempt to analyze this from the perspective of Comet as a character. A lot of this is heavy speculation.
From what I can understand, Comet, to some extent, sympathizes and feels connection with the dead. Her cloak, her dagger, everything she does is steeped in death. To live in the land known for killing nearly all who enter is not an easy task, and Comet is far more comfortable surrounded by corpses than living beings.
Comet is also an outcast by choice. She actively thinks about how much she dislikes the Rings, and how terrified she is to get any closer. It's no surprise that the parasite that tormented her is shaped like a person for an exceedingly long time. I believe her isolation, in a way, makes her a proverbial 'corpse' to the world at large, and this is where she's most comfortable. I think this is a concept brought even further with her hallucinations and the state we see her in in Gemini.
Swiftly moving on.
Mushroom is, as we know, a decomposer. She feasts upon the dead and decaying. This is played off as her being picky, but considering how characters with other diet types have specific requirements, this is likely something she seems to need to do for her own well being.
This is something built into her, much in the same way that Dynamite's carnivore diet is built into him. For Mushroom, this isn't something that effects her immensely horribly, and is something she's simply used to and comfortable with despite it often being seen as odd by others. Otherness is a theme that's impossible to ignore in Objectified. In Dynamite's case, it's explored by fear, but in Mushroom's case, it's explored by connection. Without Mushroom, Dynamite would be incredibly alone (and probably long assimilated by now). Mushroom's abilities naturally caused by her existence also bring her closer to the razor pack, even if it's only because she can be deemed useful.
She is also the only character we know of that can eat parasites, and actively does so with fervor. Between her and the spores created by her, it's possible she may be seen as a sort of cure to the parasitic outbreak.
So… Mushroom kind of ties into all of the above, here. She is able to (quite literally) gain control due to being her specific type of decomposer, eating is tied directly to her identity, she seems to have a growing guilt for her lifespan that seems is going to be much longer than Dynamite's, and, notably, she insists upon keeping herself and her best friend fed out of love for him.
As far as I'm concerned, she is the personification of Objectified's core when it's all taken into consideration. And frankly, I welcome our spore overlords!
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Characters in Objectified eat as a language, and it seems to mean a little bit of something to everyone. We eat what we love and what we fear. We yearn and grieve and fight and consume. I don't really have a grand thesis, I just think it's all very neat and wanted to compile my observations.
Hope you enjoyed it! Thanks for getting through all of this if you did. Feel free to let me know if you have anything that sticks out in your mind regarding all of this, I'd love to chat!
Thank you to Center Ring for helping me fact check everything and once again to @mintyobjectified for the assist on Minty's portion, and to my friends and partner for hyping me up enough to do all this. Thank you also to Chester and company for this awesome comic. Here's to me making 80 million more posts about it.
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