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Hope
The one who has hope lives differently. Because the one who has hope understands pain is never permanent. There is life before and after the battle. The Cross is linked, interconnected to the Resurrection. Life comes from the Cross. Thatās how Jesus endured the Cross, with hope that God would rescue Him from death and bring Him to life. Thatās how He despised its shame for the glory of God. He had hope in that pain is never permanent; life goes on after death, with faith in Godās promise and mercy.
The one who has hope lives differently; They understand pain is never permanent.
Hello everyone, I know itās been a while since I last posted. My grandmother died last night after a short battle with cancer. If you could please keep her in your prayers my family would really appreciate it.
Forgive me, I avoid politics because Iām trying to sow my own peace and I donāt trust my extreme anger or my extreme empathy to keep me kind, but Iām particularly fragile today.
The Canadian government is currently in the process of expanding access to medically-assisted suicide, extending it to people whose conditions are not terminal and whose natural deaths are notĀ āreasonably foreseeableā. In essence, itās being extended to people with any sort ofĀ āseriousā disability or chronic health issue, including chronic and recurring mental illness, i.e.Ā this law could kill me.Ā
Under current regulations there isnāt even a mandatory psychiatric evaluation to access it, a GP has to sign off and thereās only a 10-dayĀ āreflectionā period. This law could kill me.
Iām not dying. If I donāt off myself Iāll probably live to the average life expectancy. Under this law, if I hit a bad enough relapse - almost inevitable given my combination of disorders - I could die if my suffering is deemed ābad enoughā by some random GP. Iāve had episodes way longer than 10 days.Ā
Even if you support access to medically-assisted suicide, the government is making no moves to give people with these illnesses access to affordable and reliable palliative care/hospice care/disability assistance/mental health care/etc. The onlyĀ ārightā that seems to matter is to access medically-assisted suicide, there is no equal support for giving people access to the care they need should they desire it. There is no right to basic, necessary healthcare for people who want to keep living but might need a little help to do so. The government is prioritizing our right to die over our right to get help - this is a clear message that disabled and chronically ill people (non-terminal!) arenāt valued.
Donāt ever let a Canadian brag to you from their soapbox about how much better we are than the US. Our government might be more subtle about it, less frequently in international news, but itās still a flaming pile of garbage and it can kiss my chronically ill ass.
Just as an fyi the Canadian government currently has a survey out where you can give your opinion on the possible ruling. I have no clue how much of an impact this survey has, but here is the link for it if you are Canadian and would like to fill it out.

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The Things That The Roman Church Teaches As Part Of āTraditionā Was Utterly Unknown To The Apostles Or The Thessalonians Which Means They Cannot Use That Argument For There Is No Historical Accuracy Behind It, And Yet They Do.
Hello brother/sister in Christ!
I feel like youāve been slightly mislead about Catholic beliefs and teachings. While I frankly do not have enough time to address everything youāve written out I hope clarify some misconceptions for you. This article by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops I think might clarify some of your misunderstandings. Some highlights from this include:Ā
āThe mission of Jesus continues through the ministry of the Church that he founded, and he has given the Church the inspiration of the Holy Spirit for guidance in everything. The Revelation of Jesus is thus extended to the Apostles and handed on through two means: Sacred Scripture and Tradition. Sacred Scripture is the inspired word of God, the collection of sacred books that hand on the truth of Revelation in written form⦠The Living apostolic Tradition highlights the fact that the Apostles received the words and deeds of Jesus who passed on the authority to teach in his name.ā
Another important point this article mentions is the fact some Christian (not just Catholic!) teaching is explicitly stated in the Bible while others are more implicit. Jesusā resurrection is explicitly stated in the Bible, therefore most (if not all) Christians believe Christ was resurrected. The Trinity, while heavily hinted at, is not explicitly stated in the Bible. This doesnāt mean that the Trinity isnāt true, it just wasnāt explicitly stated.Ā
If you want to read this stuff from a more official source, here is the Catechism of the Catholic Churchās view of this.
In summary: The Bible is the Word of God. Some things are explicitly stated in the Bible while others things are implicitly stated in the Bible (usually the implicitly stated stuff causes more controversy). The Catholic Church also believe that Jesus gave the Apostles an oral tradition that is not entirely included in the Bible.Ā
In my opinion (oh no, here we go!) that last part is implicitly in the Bible. John 21: 23 says, āBut there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.ā This explicitly states that there are things Jesus did that are not written down in the Bible, and in my opinion implicitly confirms the idea of oral tradition that can be passed down from Apostle to follower and towards us.Ā
And you may be wondering, how can you know what is actually Apostolic tradition and what is just mumbo-jumbo passed down from 2000 years of oral tradition? And to that I raise the point, how do we know what books in the Bible are actually inspired by God? The Dead Sea Scrolls had more books than our Old Testament, there are many more Gospels than the four currently in our Bible, etc. So how do you know that the current set are actually the Word of God? And you would probably reply with something to the effect of, āI have faith that the Holy Spirit wouldnāt let us fall into error with something as serious as this.ā And this would be my reply to the first question. I believe the Holy Spirit guides and protects Apostolic Tradition as I believe it is also the Word of God.
One other thing I would like to address before (somewhat) moving on, the Catholic Church does not believe that Sacred Tradition is somehow greater or more reliable or better than the Bible. Whatever Catholic you were talking to that told you that is misinformed about the Catholic faith.
Next, before we get to your list of things that you think Catholics believe, I would like to clarify things about tradition. In Catholicism is there is three types of tradition. The first is the type you are probably most familiar with and that is the Jewish Law found in the first 5 books of the Bible (from here on out I will refer to it as the āLawā.) Catholics do not generally hold to the Law. We believe Jesus came to fulfill the Law and therefore things like circumcision, not eating shellfish, etc. are no longer binding. Hence paragraph 26 (I think? Itās late so my counting might be a bit off) is misinformed.
The second type of tradition is one youāve probably never/rarely heard of yet you will definitely recognize some of the examples of it. In some English speaking Catholic circles it is called ālittle t tradition,ā (as it is usually written as just tradition, while Apostolic Tradition is usually written as Tradition,) but Iām going to call it cultural tradition. Cultural traditional is different than Apostolic Tradition (which I will get to next)Ā in that it is not doctrinally binding.This means it can technically be reversed at any time. It also means that different Catholic Churches may have different cultural traditions. I should probably clarify what I mean by different Catholic Churches. I donāt mean actual physical churches, I mean different groups of people who all have slightly different beliefs and cultural traditions, but all are in communion with each other and all recognize the Pope as head of the Church. There are 24 Catholic Churches, the largest is the Roman Catholic Church (which is the only Western Catholic Church), and there are also 23 Eastern Catholic Churches (some examples you might be familiar with depending on where you live are the Ukrainian Catholic Church, Ruthenian Catholic Church, Maronite Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, etc.) The Wikipedia page has a fairly good article about these Churches, which I will attach here in case you are interested. Anyway, one cultural tradition you are definitely familiar with is that of celibate priests. The Roman Catholic Church for a variety of reasons decided to implement practice of celibate priests, yet many Eastern Catholic Churches do not have celibate priests. Even the Roman Catholic Church occasionally allows married men to become priests. This of course directly contradicts point 10 on your previous list.Ā
(Since Iām already talking about celibacy I might as well address points 11, 12, and 13 on your list. You have to understand that people who become Monks and Nuns willing choose to not get married. They know what they are getting into and not being tricked. I might be misreading your intentions, but you are seemingly under the impression that God wants everybody to get married which is 1. kinda disgusting because there are certainly people who for a variety of reasons do not wish to get married and forcing them would be horrendous, and 2. is unbiblical. Paul directly says in 1 Corinthians 7:7-9, āI wish that all were as I myself am. But each has a particular gift from God, one having one kind and another a different kind. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain unmarried as I am. But not if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion.ā Essentially, Paul wished everyone would be celibate but acknowledged that some people couldnāt handle it. Therefore, saying that choosing to remain celibate is not biblical is, well, unbiblical.)
The third type of tradition is the tradition Iāve been referring to this entire time. Like cultural tradition is sometimes called ālittle t traditionā this one is occasionally referred to as ābig t Tradition,ā but I will call it Apostolic or Sacred Tradition.Ā We believe Sacred Tradition is the teaching of Jesus that has been orally passed to the Apostles who have since passed it on to us. We believe that Apostolic Tradition is the Word of God and that it has been protected by the Holy Spirit all throughout all these years.
Now that weāve sussed out the important background information about tradition, letās start to address some of the concerns on you list.
Letās start with things on this list that just arenāt true (thatās okay though, these are often common misconceptions that are even believed by some Catholics who arenāt particularly knowledgeable about the faith. This is in no particular order, sorry).
1. Iāve already addressed the whole celibacy thing, but I just want to clarify that we know that there have been several married Popes. We know St. Peter was married as it explicitly states that in the Bible. We are not idiots. We consider his daughter to be a Saint (St. Petronella.)
2. We believe that every Christian is a saint. The Bible explicitly states that. We also call the people in heaven Saints. To distinguish between the two we call a Christian on earth a saint and we call those in Heaven a Saint (little s vs. big S. We Catholics seem to have a thing for distinguishing two things by capitalizing letters.) Of note, everyone in heaven is a Saint however some particularly pious people are proclaimed a Saint by the Church. The reason for this and how this happens is very google-able. If youāre curious feel free to google.
3. Now letās talk about indulgences. While indulgences at certain points in history were sold, the Church officially condemned this (even if some Bishops and priests partook in this practice) and the Church does not consider sold indulgences to be valid. Letās get to what an indulgence actually is. It is pious acts done under fairly specific set of circumstances that may reduce some time spent in purgatory (I feel like Iām opening up a whole other can of worms by mentioning this, but letās be real there is a slim chance anyone is going to actually read this far down the post lol.) You should note: you can still go to hell if you do an indulgence, an indulgence is also extremely specific pious practice. What you are to do is outlined and the state your soul should be in is also outlined. Here is the outline for a specific type of indulgence if you would like to read more about what a single indulgence requires.
Now letās get into the slightly more time consuming things to address.
1. (Salvation in Catholicism is kinda complicated to explain, Iāll try to give you the best summary I can and I will also try to give plenty of resources for you to check.) The Bible is explicitly clear on salvation. The Catholic Church does not teach that we can work our way into Heaven or that we obtained salvation through works alone. Yet, the Catholic Church does approach salvation slightly differently than Protestants do. We do believe that works play an important role in salvation and that is we will be judged by our works (See Matthew 15 and 16, Revelation 20 and 22, Romans 2, 1 Peter 1, 2 Corinthians 5, and 1 Corinthians 13:13.) But works alone is not enough. (Note: when I say works, I do not mean works of the Law [ie. following the Law of Moses], I generally mean doing things that unite us with God and our neighbour, google corporate and spiritual works of mercy if you are interested.) Catholics believe that Salvation is complete union with God. The Bible is explicitly clear on how this happens, āFor by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God-not the result of works, so that no one may boast.ā (Ephesians 2:9-8, NRSV.) However it is also explicitly stated in James 2:14-26 (but I will only quote 14-17) that āWhat good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, and one of you says to them, āGo in peace; keep warm and eat your fill,ā and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.ā Essentially, we are saved by Godās grace through faith, but we need to actively participate with God. Here are some absolutely fabulous resource that explains Catholic views on salvation much better than I can.
2. Letās talk about Papal Infallibility. Before I even begin to address this I think we should clarify that the Pope is not always infallible. He is only infallible under certain circumstances. Those circumstances have only happened about 2 dozen time (if Iām remembering right, Iām really tired.) Speaking on me being really tired, Iām just going to give you sources for this topic and then call it a night. I might expand on it more in the morning but itās my birthday and I have church so I may not have time. Here is a fabulous explanation on what papal infallibility is and the history behind it.Ā
Iām going to sign off now, but I might address more of these claims in the morning. In the mean time, Catholic Productions has many videos that may help clear things up about Mary (1,2,3), Apostolic Succession, purgatory, and the primacy of Peter. All of which you might be interested in.
@tradcatmariaā @tradfems @alwaysabeautifullife and @by-grace-of-godā I believe all have resources that might interest you.
And one slight thing I want to mention that is not theologically related. Your tone throughout this post was less than ideal, especially when talking about another brother/sister in Christ. At times you appeared to me to be very condescending. I would like to kindly suggest that you work on humility. The Catholic Church has been combating some of these arguments and misconceptions for the last 500 years, the idea that she does not have some type of response to these questions is unrealistic. I hope at no point I came off as condescending or rude, and please know that if that ever happened it was unintentional and I am sorry. Good night, and God bless.
Pax Christi,Ā
Cait.
Sorry for the multiple reblogs, tumblr wouldnāt let me post all this at once.
The Things That The Roman Church Teaches As Part Of āTraditionā Was Utterly Unknown To The Apostles Or The Thessalonians Which Means They Cannot Use That Argument For There Is No Historical Accuracy Behind It, And Yet They Do.
Hello brother/sister in Christ!
I feel like youāve been slightly mislead about Catholic beliefs and teachings. While I frankly do not have enough time to address everything youāve written out I hope clarify some misconceptions for you. This article by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops I think might clarify some of your misunderstandings. Some highlights from this include:Ā
āThe mission of Jesus continues through the ministry of the Church that he founded, and he has given the Church the inspiration of the Holy Spirit for guidance in everything. The Revelation of Jesus is thus extended to the Apostles and handed on through two means: Sacred Scripture and Tradition. Sacred Scripture is the inspired word of God, the collection of sacred books that hand on the truth of Revelation in written form⦠The Living apostolic Tradition highlights the fact that the Apostles received the words and deeds of Jesus who passed on the authority to teach in his name.ā
Another important point this article mentions is the fact some Christian (not just Catholic!) teaching is explicitly stated in the Bible while others are more implicit. Jesusā resurrection is explicitly stated in the Bible, therefore most (if not all) Christians believe Christ was resurrected. The Trinity, while heavily hinted at, is not explicitly stated in the Bible. This doesnāt mean that the Trinity isnāt true, it just wasnāt explicitly stated.Ā
If you want to read this stuff from a more official source, here is the Catechism of the Catholic Churchās view of this.
In summary: The Bible is the Word of God. Some things are explicitly stated in the Bible while others things are implicitly stated in the Bible (usually the implicitly stated stuff causes more controversy). The Catholic Church also believe that Jesus gave the Apostles an oral tradition that is not entirely included in the Bible.Ā
In my opinion (oh no, here we go!) that last part is implicitly in the Bible. John 21: 23 says, āBut there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.ā This explicitly states that there are things Jesus did that are not written down in the Bible, and in my opinion implicitly confirms the idea of oral tradition that can be passed down from Apostle to follower and towards us.Ā
And you may be wondering, how can you know what is actually Apostolic tradition and what is just mumbo-jumbo passed down from 2000 years of oral tradition? And to that I raise the point, how do we know what books in the Bible are actually inspired by God? The Dead Sea Scrolls had more books than our Old Testament, there are many more Gospels than the four currently in our Bible, etc. So how do you know that the current set are actually the Word of God? And you would probably reply with something to the effect of, āI have faith that the Holy Spirit wouldnāt let us fall into error with something as serious as this.ā And this would be my reply to the first question. I believe the Holy Spirit guides and protects Apostolic Tradition as I believe it is also the Word of God.
One other thing I would like to address before (somewhat) moving on, the Catholic Church does not believe that Sacred Tradition is somehow greater or more reliable or better than the Bible. Whatever Catholic you were talking to that told you that is misinformed about the Catholic faith.
Next, before we get to your list of things that you think Catholics believe, I would like to clarify things about tradition. In Catholicism is there is three types of tradition. The first is the type you are probably most familiar with and that is the Jewish Law found in the first 5 books of the Bible (from here on out I will refer to it as the āLawā.) Catholics do not generally hold to the Law. We believe Jesus came to fulfill the Law and therefore things like circumcision, not eating shellfish, etc. are no longer binding. Hence paragraph 26 (I think? Itās late so my counting might be a bit off) is misinformed.
The second type of tradition is one youāve probably never/rarely heard of yet you will definitely recognize some of the examples of it. In some English speaking Catholic circles it is called ālittle t tradition,ā (as it is usually written as just tradition, while Apostolic Tradition is usually written as Tradition,) but Iām going to call it cultural tradition. Cultural traditional is different than Apostolic Tradition (which I will get to next)Ā in that it is not doctrinally binding.This means it can technically be reversed at any time. It also means that different Catholic Churches may have different cultural traditions. I should probably clarify what I mean by different Catholic Churches. I donāt mean actual physical churches, I mean different groups of people who all have slightly different beliefs and cultural traditions, but all are in communion with each other and all recognize the Pope as head of the Church. There are 24 Catholic Churches, the largest is the Roman Catholic Church (which is the only Western Catholic Church), and there are also 23 Eastern Catholic Churches (some examples you might be familiar with depending on where you live are the Ukrainian Catholic Church, Ruthenian Catholic Church, Maronite Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, etc.) The Wikipedia page has a fairly good article about these Churches, which I will attach here in case you are interested. Anyway, one cultural tradition you are definitely familiar with is that of celibate priests. The Roman Catholic Church for a variety of reasons decided to implement practice of celibate priests, yet many Eastern Catholic Churches do not have celibate priests. Even the Roman Catholic Church occasionally allows married men to become priests. This of course directly contradicts point 10 on your previous list.Ā
(Since Iām already talking about celibacy I might as well address points 11, 12, and 13 on your list. You have to understand that people who become Monks and Nuns willing choose to not get married. They know what they are getting into and not being tricked. I might be misreading your intentions, but you are seemingly under the impression that God wants everybody to get married which is 1. kinda disgusting because there are certainly people who for a variety of reasons do not wish to get married and forcing them would be horrendous, and 2. is unbiblical. Paul directly says in 1 Corinthians 7:7-9, āI wish that all were as I myself am. But each has a particular gift from God, one having one kind and another a different kind. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain unmarried as I am. But not if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion.ā Essentially, Paul wished everyone would be celibate but acknowledged that some people couldnāt handle it. Therefore, saying that choosing to remain celibate is not biblical is, well, unbiblical.)
The third type of tradition is the tradition Iāve been referring to this entire time. Like cultural tradition is sometimes called ālittle t traditionā this one is occasionally referred to as ābig t Tradition,ā but I will call it Apostolic or Sacred Tradition.Ā We believe Sacred Tradition is the teaching of Jesus that has been orally passed to the Apostles who have since passed it on to us. We believe that Apostolic Tradition is the Word of God and that it has been protected by the Holy Spirit all throughout all these years.
Now that weāve sussed out the important background information about tradition, letās start to address some of the concerns on you list.
Letās start with things on this list that just arenāt true (thatās okay though, these are often common misconceptions that are even believed by some Catholics who arenāt particularly knowledgeable about the faith. This is in no particular order, sorry).
1. Iāve already addressed the whole celibacy thing, but I just want to clarify that we know that there have been several married Popes. We know St. Peter was married as it explicitly states that in the Bible. We are not idiots. We consider his daughter to be a Saint (St. Petronella.)
2. We believe that every Christian is a saint. The Bible explicitly states that. We also call the people in heaven Saints. To distinguish between the two we call a Christian on earth a saint and we call those in Heaven a Saint (little s vs. big S. We Catholics seem to have a thing for distinguishing two things by capitalizing letters.) Of note, everyone in heaven is a Saint however some particularly pious people are proclaimed a Saint by the Church. The reason for this and how this happens is very google-able. If youāre curious feel free to google.
3. Now letās talk about indulgences. While indulgences at certain points in history were sold, the Church officially condemned this (even if some Bishops and priests partook in this practice) and the Church does not consider sold indulgences to be valid. Letās get to what an indulgence actually is. It is pious acts done under fairly specific set of circumstances that may reduce some time spent in purgatory (I feel like Iām opening up a whole other can of worms by mentioning this, but letās be real there is a slim chance anyone is going to actually read this far down the post lol.) You should note: you can still go to hell if you do an indulgence, an indulgence is also extremely specific pious practice. What you are to do is outlined and the state your soul should be in is also outlined. Here is the outline for a specific type of indulgence if you would like to read more about what a single indulgence requires.
Now letās get into the slightly more time consuming things to address.
1. (Salvation in Catholicism is kinda complicated to explain, Iāll try to give you the best summary I can and I will also try to give plenty of resources for you to check.) The Bible is explicitly clear on salvation. The Catholic Church does not teach that we can work our way into Heaven or that we obtained salvation through works alone. Yet, the Catholic Church does approach salvation slightly differently than Protestants do. We do believe that works play an important role in salvation and that is we will be judged by our works (See Matthew 15 and 16, Revelation 20 and 22, Romans 2, 1 Peter 1, 2 Corinthians 5, and 1 Corinthians 13:13.) But works alone is not enough. (Note: when I say works, I do not mean works of the Law [ie. following the Law of Moses], I generally mean doing things that unite us with God and our neighbour, google corporate and spiritual works of mercy if you are interested.) Catholics believe that Salvation is complete union with God. The Bible is explicitly clear on how this happens, āFor by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God-not the result of works, so that no one may boast.ā (Ephesians 2:9-8, NRSV.) However it is also explicitly stated in James 2:14-26 (but I will only quote 14-17) that āWhat good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, and one of you says to them, āGo in peace; keep warm and eat your fill,ā and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.ā Essentially, we are saved by Godās grace through faith, but we need to actively participate with God. Here are some absolutely fabulous resource that explains Catholic views on salvation much better than I can.
2. Letās talk about Papal Infallibility. Before I even begin to address this I think we should clarify that the Pope is not always infallible. He is only infallible under certain circumstances. Those circumstances have only happened about 2 dozen time (if Iām remembering right, Iām really tired.) Speaking on me being really tired, Iām just going to give you sources for this topic and then call it a night. I might expand on it more in the morning but itās my birthday and I have church so I may not have time. Here is a fabulous explanation on what papal infallibility is and the history behind it.Ā
Iām going to sign off now, but I might address more of these claims in the morning. In the mean time, Catholic Productions has many videos that may help clear things up about Mary (1,2,3), Apostolic Succession, purgatory, and the primacy of Peter. All of which you might be interested in.
@tradcatmariaā @tradfems @alwaysabeautifullife and @by-grace-of-godā I believe all have resources that might interest you.
And one slight thing I want to mention that is not theologically related. Your tone throughout this post was less than ideal, especially when talking about another brother/sister in Christ. At times you appeared to me to be very condescending. I would like to kindly suggest that you work on humility. The Catholic Church has been combating some of these arguments and misconceptions for the last 500 years, the idea that she does not have some type of response to these questions is unrealistic. I hope at no point I came off as condescending or rude, and please know that if that ever happened it was unintentional and I am sorry. Good night, and God bless.
Pax Christi,Ā
Cait.
The Things That The Roman Church Teaches As Part Of āTraditionā Was Utterly Unknown To The Apostles Or The Thessalonians Which Means They Cannot Use That Argument For There Is No Historical Accuracy Behind It, And Yet They Do.
Hello brother/sister in Christ!
I feel like youāve been slightly mislead about Catholic beliefs and teachings. While I frankly do not have enough time to address everything youāve written out I hope clarify some misconceptions for you. This article by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops I think might clarify some of your misunderstandings. Some highlights from this include:Ā
āThe mission of Jesus continues through the ministry of the Church that he founded, and he has given the Church the inspiration of the Holy Spirit for guidance in everything. The Revelation of Jesus is thus extended to the Apostles and handed on through two means: Sacred Scripture and Tradition. Sacred Scripture is the inspired word of God, the collection of sacred books that hand on the truth of Revelation in written form⦠The Living apostolic Tradition highlights the fact that the Apostles received the words and deeds of Jesus who passed on the authority to teach in his name.ā
Another important point this article mentions is the fact some Christian (not just Catholic!) teaching is explicitly stated in the Bible while others are more implicit. Jesusā resurrection is explicitly stated in the Bible, therefore most (if not all) Christians believe Christ was resurrected. The Trinity, while heavily hinted at, is not explicitly stated in the Bible. This doesnāt mean that the Trinity isnāt true, it just wasnāt explicitly stated.Ā
If you want to read this stuff from a more official source, here is the Catechism of the Catholic Churchās view of this.
In summary: The Bible is the Word of God. Some things are explicitly stated in the Bible while others things are implicitly stated in the Bible (usually the implicitly stated stuff causes more controversy). The Catholic Church also believe that Jesus gave the Apostles an oral tradition that is not entirely included in the Bible.Ā
In my opinion (oh no, here we go!) that last part is implicitly in the Bible. John 21: 23 says, āBut there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.ā This explicitly states that there are things Jesus did that are not written down in the Bible, and in my opinion implicitly confirms the idea of oral tradition that can be passed down from Apostle to follower and towards us.Ā
And you may be wondering, how can you know what is actually Apostolic tradition and what is just mumbo-jumbo passed down from 2000 years of oral tradition? And to that I raise the point, how do we know what books in the Bible are actually inspired by God? The Dead Sea Scrolls had more books than our Old Testament, there are many more Gospels than the four currently in our Bible, etc. So how do you know that the current set are actually the Word of God? And you would probably reply with something to the effect of, āI have faith that the Holy Spirit wouldnāt let us fall into error with something as serious as this.ā And this would be my reply to the first question. I believe the Holy Spirit guides and protects Apostolic Tradition as I believe it is also the Word of God.
One other thing I would like to address before (somewhat) moving on, the Catholic Church does not believe that Sacred Tradition is somehow greater or more reliable or better than the Bible. Whatever Catholic you were talking to that told you that is misinformed about the Catholic faith.
Next, before we get to your list of things that you think Catholics believe, I would like to clarify things about tradition. In Catholicism is there is three types of tradition. The first is the type you are probably most familiar with and that is the Jewish Law found in the first 5 books of the Bible (from here on out I will refer to it as the āLawā.) Catholics do not generally hold to the Law. We believe Jesus came to fulfill the Law and therefore things like circumcision, not eating shellfish, etc. are no longer binding. Hence paragraph 26 (I think? Itās late so my counting might be a bit off) is misinformed.
The second type of tradition is one youāve probably never/rarely heard of yet you will definitely recognize some of the examples of it. In some English speaking Catholic circles it is called ālittle t tradition,ā (as it is usually written as just tradition, while Apostolic Tradition is usually written as Tradition,) but Iām going to call it cultural tradition. Cultural traditional is different than Apostolic Tradition (which I will get to next)Ā in that it is not doctrinally binding.This means it can technically be reversed at any time. It also means that different Catholic Churches may have different cultural traditions. I should probably clarify what I mean by different Catholic Churches. I donāt mean actual physical churches, I mean different groups of people who all have slightly different beliefs and cultural traditions, but all are in communion with each other and all recognize the Pope as head of the Church. There are 24 Catholic Churches, the largest is the Roman Catholic Church (which is the only Western Catholic Church), and there are also 23 Eastern Catholic Churches (some examples you might be familiar with depending on where you live are the Ukrainian Catholic Church, Ruthenian Catholic Church, Maronite Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, etc.) The Wikipedia page has a fairly good article about these Churches, which I will attach here in case you are interested. Anyway, one cultural tradition you are definitely familiar with is that of celibate priests. The Roman Catholic Church for a variety of reasons decided to implement practice of celibate priests, yet many Eastern Catholic Churches do not have celibate priests. Even the Roman Catholic Church occasionally allows married men to become priests. This of course directly contradicts point 10 on your previous list.Ā
(Since Iām already talking about celibacy I might as well address points 11, 12, and 13 on your list. You have to understand that people who become Monks and Nuns willing choose to not get married. They know what they are getting into and not being tricked. I might be misreading your intentions, but you are seemingly under the impression that God wants everybody to get married which is 1. kinda disgusting because there are certainly people who for a variety of reasons do not wish to get married and forcing them would be horrendous, and 2. is unbiblical. Paul directly says in 1 Corinthians 7:7-9, āI wish that all were as I myself am. But each has a particular gift from God, one having one kind and another a different kind. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain unmarried as I am. But not if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion.ā Essentially, Paul wished everyone would be celibate but acknowledged that some people couldnāt handle it. Therefore, saying that choosing to remain celibate is not biblical is, well, unbiblical.)
The third type of tradition is the tradition Iāve been referring to this entire time. Like cultural tradition is sometimes called ālittle t traditionā this one is occasionally referred to as ābig t Tradition,ā but I will call it Apostolic or Sacred Tradition.Ā We believe Sacred Tradition is the teaching of Jesus that has been orally passed to the Apostles who have since passed it on to us. We believe that Apostolic Tradition is the Word of God and that it has been protected by the Holy Spirit all throughout all these years.
Now that weāve sussed out the important background information about tradition, letās start to address some of the concerns on you list.
Letās start with things on this list that just arenāt true (thatās okay though, these are often common misconceptions that are even believed by some Catholics who arenāt particularly knowledgeable about the faith. This is in no particular order, sorry).
1. Iāve already addressed the whole celibacy thing, but I just want to clarify that we know that there have been several married Popes. We know St. Peter was married as it explicitly states that in the Bible. We are not idiots. We consider his daughter to be a Saint (St. Petronella.)
2. We believe that every Christian is a saint. The Bible explicitly states that. We also call the people in heaven Saints. To distinguish between the two we call a Christian on earth a saint and we call those in Heaven a Saint (little s vs. big S. We Catholics seem to have a thing for distinguishing two things by capitalizing letters.) Of note, everyone in heaven is a Saint however some particularly pious people are proclaimed a Saint by the Church. The reason for this and how this happens is very google-able. If youāre curious feel free to google.
3. Now letās talk about indulgences. While indulgences at certain points in history were sold, the Church officially condemned this (even if some Bishops and priests partook in this practice) and the Church does not consider sold indulgences to be valid. Letās get to what an indulgence actually is. It is pious acts done under fairly specific set of circumstances that may reduce some time spent in purgatory (I feel like Iām opening up a whole other can of worms by mentioning this, but letās be real there is a slim chance anyone is going to actually read this far down the post lol.) You should note: you can still go to hell if you do an indulgence, an indulgence is also extremely specific pious practice. What you are to do is outlined and the state your soul should be in is also outlined. Here is the outline for a specific type of indulgence if you would like to read more about what a single indulgence requires.

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The Things That The Roman Church Teaches As Part Of āTraditionā Was Utterly Unknown To The Apostles Or The Thessalonians Which Means They Cannot Use That Argument For There Is No Historical Accuracy Behind It, And Yet They Do.
Hello brother/sister in Christ!
I feel like youāve been slightly mislead about Catholic beliefs and teachings. While I frankly do not have enough time to address everything youāve written out I hope clarify some misconceptions for you. This article by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops I think might clarify some of your misunderstandings. Some highlights from this include:Ā
āThe mission of Jesus continues through the ministry of the Church that he founded, and he has given the Church the inspiration of the Holy Spirit for guidance in everything. The Revelation of Jesus is thus extended to the Apostles and handed on through two means: Sacred Scripture and Tradition. Sacred Scripture is the inspired word of God, the collection of sacred books that hand on the truth of Revelation in written form⦠The Living apostolic Tradition highlights the fact that the Apostles received the words and deeds of Jesus who passed on the authority to teach in his name.ā
Another important point this article mentions is the fact some Christian (not just Catholic!) teaching is explicitly stated in the Bible while others are more implicit. Jesusā resurrection is explicitly stated in the Bible, therefore most (if not all) Christians believe Christ was resurrected. The Trinity, while heavily hinted at, is not explicitly stated in the Bible. This doesnāt mean that the Trinity isnāt true, it just wasnāt explicitly stated.Ā
If you want to read this stuff from a more official source, here is the Catechism of the Catholic Churchās view of this.
In summary: The Bible is the Word of God. Some things are explicitly stated in the Bible while others things are implicitly stated in the Bible (usually the implicitly stated stuff causes more controversy). The Catholic Church also believe that Jesus gave the Apostles an oral tradition that is not entirely included in the Bible.Ā
In my opinion (oh no, here we go!) that last part is implicitly in the Bible. John 21: 23 says, āBut there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.ā This explicitly states that there are things Jesus did that are not written down in the Bible, and in my opinion implicitly confirms the idea of oral tradition that can be passed down from Apostle to follower and towards us.Ā
And you may be wondering, how can you know what is actually Apostolic tradition and what is just mumbo-jumbo passed down from 2000 years of oral tradition? And to that I raise the point, how do we know what books in the Bible are actually inspired by God? The Dead Sea Scrolls had more books than our Old Testament, there are many more Gospels than the four currently in our Bible, etc. So how do you know that the current set are actually the Word of God? And you would probably reply with something to the effect of, āI have faith that the Holy Spirit wouldnāt let us fall into error with something as serious as this.ā And this would be my reply to the first question. I believe the Holy Spirit guides and protects Apostolic Tradition as I believe it is also the Word of God.
One other thing I would like to address before (somewhat) moving on, the Catholic Church does not believe that Sacred Tradition is somehow greater or more reliable or better than the Bible. Whatever Catholic you were talking to that told you that is misinformed about the Catholic faith.
Next, before we get to your list of things that you think Catholics believe, I would like to clarify things about tradition. In Catholicism is there is three types of tradition. The first is the type you are probably most familiar with and that is the Jewish Law found in the first 5 books of the Bible (from here on out I will refer to it as the āLawā.) Catholics do not generally hold to the Law. We believe Jesus came to fulfill the Law and therefore things like circumcision, not eating shellfish, etc. are no longer binding. Hence paragraph 26 (I think? Itās late so my counting might be a bit off) is misinformed.
The second type of tradition is one youāve probably never/rarely heard of yet you will definitely recognize some of the examples of it. In some English speaking Catholic circles it is called ālittle t tradition,ā (as it is usually written as just tradition, while Apostolic Tradition is usually written as Tradition,) but Iām going to call it cultural tradition. Cultural traditional is different than Apostolic Tradition (which I will get to next)Ā in that it is not doctrinally binding.This means it can technically be reversed at any time. It also means that different Catholic Churches may have different cultural traditions. I should probably clarify what I mean by different Catholic Churches. I donāt mean actual physical churches, I mean different groups of people who all have slightly different beliefs and cultural traditions, but all are in communion with each other and all recognize the Pope as head of the Church. There are 24 Catholic Churches, the largest is the Roman Catholic Church (which is the only Western Catholic Church), and there are also 23 Eastern Catholic Churches (some examples you might be familiar with depending on where you live are the Ukrainian Catholic Church, Ruthenian Catholic Church, Maronite Catholic Church, Melkite Catholic Church, etc.) The Wikipedia page has a fairly good article about these Churches, which I will attach here in case you are interested. Anyway, one cultural tradition you are definitely familiar with is that of celibate priests. The Roman Catholic Church for a variety of reasons decided to implement practice of celibate priests, yet many Eastern Catholic Churches do not have celibate priests. Even the Roman Catholic Church occasionally allows married men to become priests. This of course directly contradicts point 10 on your previous list.Ā
(Since Iām already talking about celibacy I might as well address points 11, 12, and 13 on your list. You have to understand that people who become Monks and Nuns willing choose to not get married. They know what they are getting into and not being tricked. I might be misreading your intentions, but you are seemingly under the impression that God wants everybody to get married which is 1. kinda disgusting because there are certainly people who for a variety of reasons do not wish to get married and forcing them would be horrendous, and 2. is unbiblical. Paul directly says in 1 Corinthians 7:7-9, āI wish that all were as I myself am. But each has a particular gift from God, one having one kind and another a different kind. To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is well for them to remain unmarried as I am. But not if they are not practicing self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to be aflame with passion.ā Essentially, Paul wished everyone would be celibate but acknowledged that some people couldnāt handle it. Therefore, saying that choosing to remain celibate is not biblical is, well, unbiblical.)
The third type of tradition is the tradition Iāve been referring to this entire time. Like cultural tradition is sometimes called ālittle t traditionā this one is occasionally referred to as ābig t Tradition,ā but I will call it Apostolic or Sacred Tradition.Ā We believe Sacred Tradition is the teaching of Jesus that has been orally passed to the Apostles who have since passed it on to us. We believe that Apostolic Tradition is the Word of God and that it has been protected by the Holy Spirit all throughout all these years.
The Things That The Roman Church Teaches As Part Of āTraditionā Was Utterly Unknown To The Apostles Or The Thessalonians Which Means They Cannot Use That Argument For There Is No Historical Accuracy Behind It, And Yet They Do.
Hello brother/sister in Christ!
I feel like youāve been slightly mislead about Catholic beliefs and teachings. While I frankly do not have enough time to address everything youāve written out I hope clarify some misconceptions for you. This article by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops I think might clarify some of your misunderstandings. Some highlights from this include:Ā
āThe mission of Jesus continues through the ministry of the Church that he founded, and he has given the Church the inspiration of the Holy Spirit for guidance in everything. The Revelation of Jesus is thus extended to the Apostles and handed on through two means: Sacred Scripture and Tradition. Sacred Scripture is the inspired word of God, the collection of sacred books that hand on the truth of Revelation in written form... The Living apostolic Tradition highlights the fact that the Apostles received the words and deeds of Jesus who passed on the authority to teach in his name.ā
Another important point this article mentions is the fact some Christian (not just Catholic!) teaching is explicitly stated in the Bible while others are more implicit. Jesusā resurrection is explicitly stated in the Bible, therefore most (if not all) Christians believe Christ was resurrected. The Trinity, while heavily hinted at, is not explicitly stated in the Bible. This doesnāt mean that the Trinity isnāt true, it just wasnāt explicitly stated.Ā
If you want to read this stuff from a more official source, here is the Catechism of the Catholic Churchās view of this.
In summary: The Bible is the Word of God. Some things are explicitly stated in the Bible while others things are implicitly stated in the Bible (usually the implicitly stated stuff causes more controversy). The Catholic Church also believe that Jesus gave the Apostles an oral tradition that is not entirely included in the Bible.Ā
In my opinion (oh no, here we go!) that last part is implicitly in the Bible. John 21: 23 says, āBut there are also many other things that Jesus did; if every one of them were written down, I suppose that the world itself could not contain the books that would be written.ā This explicitly states that there are things Jesus did that are not written down in the Bible, and in my opinion implicitly confirms the idea of oral tradition that can be passed down from Apostle to follower and towards us.Ā
And you may be wondering, how can you know what is actually Apostolic tradition and what is just mumbo-jumbo passed down from 2000 years of oral tradition? And to that I raise the point, how do we know what books in the Bible are actually inspired by God? The Dead Sea Scrolls had more books than our Old Testament, there are many more Gospels than the four currently in our Bible, etc. So how do you know that the current set are actually the Word of God? And you would probably reply with something to the effect of, āI have faith that the Holy Spirit wouldnāt let us fall into error with something as serious as this.ā And this would be my reply to the first question. I believe the Holy Spirit guides and protects Apostolic Tradition as I believe it is also the Word of God.
Looking for a lot more Catholic blogs to follow. If youāre a Catholic blog and follow back, please reblog this so I can follow you!
Reblog if youāre a Christian blog so we can all follow each other and create a lil community where we all lift each other up and pray together.
reblogging again cause thereās always new Christians around
Absolutelyā¦.Amen
100% Christian blog here, notably Roman Catholic! šā¤
I just realized there was a Julius, Octavian and an Augustus in my catechism classes as a kid. I wonder if their parents planned that,

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there was a really annoying post on a āXtains donāt interactā blog (cause you know how people just hate using the word Christ) talking about how āChristians just canāt understand Hallelujah because itās a jewish songā and āthe context and the jewish relationship with God prevent Christians from fully understanding cause they canāt obviously have struggles with their relationship with God cause they blindly follow himā and a whole other bunch of crap.
And like, Iām only saying this cause people have such a poor understanding of actual, legitamite and Holy Christian theology that they canāt even comprehend that we have a complex relationship with God where we question things and doubt and fear.
Controversially, Christian people have struggled and fought from the very start to exist and continue to suffer and die for their faith.
Iām ranting but itās just sad. Maybe actually bother to learn something about Christianity (or Catholicism since I am coming from a Catholic point of view) because a whole bunch of what people say and think is wrong because every one has a watered down, secularized and poorly represented version of Christians.
Damn.
That requires these vipers to have empathy and a willingness to understand and you know that this wonāt likely happen on this website.
Hallelujah from shrek?
Yeah the original song, later used in Shrek.
I remember that post. It started out complaining about Christian singers changing the lineĀ āAnd maybe thereās a God aboveā toĀ āI know that thereās a God aboveā. It said something aboutĀ āthat annoying certaintyā. š People, itās called faith.Ā
I think if a singer wanted to change the line, they should change it to, āI heard there is a God above.āĀ It keeps the mystery and struggle, itās not an explicit declaration of faith.Ā It connects it back to āI heard there was a secret chord.ā But also, in todayās language,Ā āMaybe thereās a God above,ā is closer to an expression of denial instead of an expression of neutrality, and I can understand why some religious people might feel uncomfortable saying it.Ā
I also feel that many Christians are disconnected from their Jewish roots.Ā How many peopleās Bible studies have focused on Leviticus and how it relates to Jesusās sacrifice on the cross?Ā
But that doesnāt mean people should diss Christians who are unfamilar with Temple Law and the dispora, but rather welcome them into a fuller understanding of the faith.
And we should take this as an opportunity to educate non-Chrisitans on the phrase, āI believe, Lord, help my unbelief.āĀ
You know what, no. In Judaism struggling with faith and belief is acceptable and does not change whether you are Jewish. If you want to appropriate a Jewish song, say the line: you donāt know. Maintain the uncertainty. If you want to demonstrate your faith, sing a different song thatās ACTUALLY ABOUT YOU.
Jews would prefer you didnāt try to reconnect with āyour Jewish roots.ā Learn about other cultures but donāt do it to get closer to Jesus. For fuckās sake, Leviticus in the Torah is not related to Jesus on the cross.
I am not dissing people who are unfamiliar with temple law and the diaspora. I am dissing people who know they are unfamiliar and pretend otherwise. People who refuse to learn. People who want to insist Judaism and Christianity are the same. Weāre not. Weāre incredibly different.
And oh my fucking goodness do not use Jews objecting to your use of our song as an excuse to proselytize.
If you donāt think Leviticus has anything to do with Jesus and who he is then you donāt understand Christianity.
Like it or not, Christianity was founded by a Jewish Israeli man so uh, yeah, we all got our Jewish roots and itās entirely possible and valid to both gain a better understanding of our own faith and learn more about other faiths and cultures.
Also, while Hallelujah undoubtedly has theological elements, a large chuck of it is about sex.
oh definitely. It hella slaps tho but in like a tasteful way and not a ātalk dirty to meā kinda way
Oh yeah, itās one of my favourite songs, just wanted to point out the idea that it is solely a Jewish theological song is fairly disingenuous.Ā
there was a really annoying post on a āXtains donāt interactā blog (cause you know how people just hate using the word Christ) talking about how āChristians just canāt understand Hallelujah because itās a jewish songā and āthe context and the jewish relationship with God prevent Christians from fully understanding cause they canāt obviously have struggles with their relationship with God cause they blindly follow himā and a whole other bunch of crap.
And like, Iām only saying this cause people have such a poor understanding of actual, legitamite and Holy Christian theology that they canāt even comprehend that we have a complex relationship with God where we question things and doubt and fear.
Controversially, Christian people have struggled and fought from the very start to exist and continue to suffer and die for their faith.
Iām ranting but itās just sad. Maybe actually bother to learn something about Christianity (or Catholicism since I am coming from a Catholic point of view) because a whole bunch of what people say and think is wrong because every one has a watered down, secularized and poorly represented version of Christians.
Damn.
That requires these vipers to have empathy and a willingness to understand and you know that this wonāt likely happen on this website.
Hallelujah from shrek?
Yeah the original song, later used in Shrek.
I remember that post. It started out complaining about Christian singers changing the lineĀ āAnd maybe thereās a God aboveā toĀ āI know that thereās a God aboveā. It said something aboutĀ āthat annoying certaintyā. š People, itās called faith.Ā
I think if a singer wanted to change the line, they should change it to, āI heard there is a God above.āĀ It keeps the mystery and struggle, itās not an explicit declaration of faith.Ā It connects it back to āI heard there was a secret chord.ā But also, in todayās language,Ā āMaybe thereās a God above,ā is closer to an expression of denial instead of an expression of neutrality, and I can understand why some religious people might feel uncomfortable saying it.Ā
I also feel that many Christians are disconnected from their Jewish roots.Ā How many peopleās Bible studies have focused on Leviticus and how it relates to Jesusās sacrifice on the cross?Ā
But that doesnāt mean people should diss Christians who are unfamilar with Temple Law and the dispora, but rather welcome them into a fuller understanding of the faith.
And we should take this as an opportunity to educate non-Chrisitans on the phrase, āI believe, Lord, help my unbelief.āĀ
You know what, no. In Judaism struggling with faith and belief is acceptable and does not change whether you are Jewish. If you want to appropriate a Jewish song, say the line: you donāt know. Maintain the uncertainty. If you want to demonstrate your faith, sing a different song thatās ACTUALLY ABOUT YOU.
Jews would prefer you didnāt try to reconnect with āyour Jewish roots.ā Learn about other cultures but donāt do it to get closer to Jesus. For fuckās sake, Leviticus in the Torah is not related to Jesus on the cross.
I am not dissing people who are unfamiliar with temple law and the diaspora. I am dissing people who know they are unfamiliar and pretend otherwise. People who refuse to learn. People who want to insist Judaism and Christianity are the same. Weāre not. Weāre incredibly different.
And oh my fucking goodness do not use Jews objecting to your use of our song as an excuse to proselytize.
If you donāt think Leviticus has anything to do with Jesus and who he is then you donāt understand Christianity.
Like it or not, Christianity was founded by a Jewish Israeli man so uh, yeah, we all got our Jewish roots and itās entirely possible and valid to both gain a better understanding of our own faith and learn more about other faiths and cultures.
Also, while Hallelujah undoubtedly has theological elements, a large chuck of it is about sex.