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A boundary is a personal limitation or set of actions communicated and enforced by a person for their own well-being.

What the fandom thinks are boundaries are actually ultimatums. They are the expectation that people adjust or limit their behaviour to make the boundary setter more comfortable, and that this behaviour will be enforced under threat of public duress or harassment for not doing so.

Essentially, if a content creator says “I don’t want to see shipping stuff.” then it is that creator’s responsibility to enforce that boundary for themself by blacklisting tags or avoiding spaces where they may come across that content. They cannot reasonably expect the fandom to stop creating ship content with their character in it, because then they are no longer sharing a personal boundary, but extending an ultimatum to the fandom.

This doesn’t even take into account the sticky nature of mcyt fandom and how a LOT of content creators don’t seem to understand that fandom exists because of their content, but it does not exist for them.

“tagging stuff like ship art and nsfw is very important but personally it feels really weird for someone to continue to make art or writing, or even ship people and characters with each other after they stated that they dont want that,”

I think what a lot of fans in the MCYT fandom don’t quite get a solid read on is the point I made in my initial post. Fandom exists because of the content creators’ content but it does not exist for them. Breaking that down, it means that what the creator wants and what each individual fan wants to make is never going to perfectly align, because fans aren’t making nsfw or ship content FOR the creator, or at least they certainly shouldn’t be. To ban or censor (or give fans carte blanche to attack people that make) that content at large is a first step in the fandom becoming a very toxic place, because people love to escalate when they feel like they’re “in the right.”

“there's a big difference between someone saying they dont want to see something specific of their character or them and them not wanting it to be done at all.”

This is a perfect example of the boundary versus ultimatum issue. It’s a frustrating truth, I’m sure, but you just cannot control what other people do. When creators do that, they’re not sharing a boundary. Here are some examples.

Boundary (healthy, places the onus on the creator to ensure they’re not overstepping with their fans and curating their own interactions): “I don’t want to see this specific thing.” > Filters for ship and nsfw tags

Ultimatum (unhealthy, places the onus on fans to A: know that creator’s preference, B: enforce that preference to others who don’t through the threat of public harassment): “I’m not okay with/don’t make content of my character like this.” > End of effort on the creator’s part. Leaves fans to do what they want.

“we're not one of those people that attack other people for doing something like that, but like, if a creator asks people to not draw their characters or themselves in such a way, isnt it... just... easier to respect those wishes? like what are you gaining out of disrespecting a boundary, yknow”

In many cases, it just. Isn’t about the creator, and if the creator is inserting themself into fandom without understanding how it works, and assumes that all fanart is for/about them and not a person half a world away playing with their concepts like dolls, then that assumption is the issue of the creator. You also can’t assume that everyone is going to know every creator’s preferences on fan-content, and to do so is both unfair and likely to get someone harassed when they go against the creator’s wishes.

As blunt as it may be, I think this fandom really just needs to learn two things.

Content creators are not your friends and you won’t get brownie points for being The Good Fan Who Follows The Rules And Calls Out Bad Fans

But actuslly if you want to see him visible struggle with insecurity, watch the Seawatt speedrunning tournament stream. He's struggling so much later on. You get to see him slowly build some confidence in his ability to speedrun to all that crashing and burning to the ground in the last round of doom and despair. It's almost painful I can't even lie.

For smaller moments, most tournament streams work as well, he will feel directly at fault for any mistake and loss

Saps life was just pure oldest horror and torment nexus where death would be great freedom, honestly impressed he is functioning so well

Meanwhile flux just has anxiety beyond belief and hates himself

well, anon, see, i do agree that oldest child role leaves you fucked up for life, some get off worse some better, but i do not think it was like. apocalyptic for saps. where is this assumption coming from i have no idea tbh. as some wise people said, saps might've had issues with how his parents raised him, even if he didn't realize it, but now he's an adult and has control over his own life it seems. he makes his own choices.

if some of y'all want a tragic backstory for rpf saps you can do as you like but i think in reality he just had attentive and generally well-meaning parents, he was their first child and they learned from that experience. your parents having really high expectations will fuck you up somewhat but you will have to grow up and get over it eventually. he holds himself to a higher standard than most as a result, but it doesn't seem to take as much of a toll on him as other kinds of parenting could.

If this fandom were any less stupid and filled with boundaries warriors we'd have had multiple fics of them fucking nasty style on Ao3. Wow. Strong wind today. Is saying that allowed. Is this a free country. I do have a lawyer just so you know. Anyway what scent do you think they would have, dear user latin-club? Personally I'm vibing with oak and something slightly bitter like coffee or orange peel.

hello omegaverse sapsflux anon. do i know you. are you one of my besties in disguise.

you are absolutely right. if this fandom was chill, there would be unimaginable omegaverse sapsflux fic on ao3 right now. you cannot even compherend the levels of nuclear it'd be. however, as it stands, everyone has to gatekeep their shit 😔

YES saying this is allowed, encouraged even, everyone is applauding you for this ask as we speak.

orange peel, anon? do i know you? do you know me? does anyone know anything? either way. correct. grapefruit/orange peel flux. and i strongly subscribe to the school of thought around saps' scent being sea breeze and salt spray. potential flux bitter coffee smell though..... i can kinda see that. i vibe w it. not my hc but i vibe w it.

i have several omegaverse aus i am very, very Normal about, but i'm gatekeeping them so if you wish to geek out with me in detail you'd have to dm me (and be an adult). these include two completely different flavors of omegaverse 2.5 (one beta flux, alpha saps, one omega flux, alpha saps), two omegaverse rpf aus with a slight fork in the plot depending on one thing (both omega flux, alpha saps, with a twist), and a secret third thing that's somewhat weirder and i'm not sure which exactly universe it'd fit in, but it's not rpf or 2.5.

either way. no matter what kind of omegaverse sapsflux au it is, i'm. eating. that. shit. up.

Not only does he have a terrible timezone to play w everyone, not only has his best friend just graduated uni while he's still stuck putting time into his studies, not only is his best friend vastly more social and extroverted than him, but now he even "fucks up" the chance he got to play with Saps more. Like, Jesus.

I can't help but wonder how conditioned he was. Some part of me feels sadden for him cause i'm also the oldest child

:((( our poor boy.