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I never thought I'd see the day where the main fandom starts to see Bryke as the shitty writers and people they are, but the ATLA subreddit's been on their asses.
Then again, that tends to happen when you use AI as a source and don't even bother to hide it, fucking idiots
I saw someone in the ATLA subreddit make the observation that Aang's focus was taken away in favor of Zuko's in Book 3.
And I just... They're so close to getting it. They're on the very edge of realizing how underdeveloped Aang as a character actually is and how incomplete his arc was. But the fandom babies and favors him so much that actually making that observation in the main parts of the fandom will never actually be conceptualized, and if it is it will never be accepted.
That's why the fault is being put onto Zuko in this particular instance. They can't admit to Aang's failings as a character so they're looking for a scapegoat to blame instead.
The actual truth is that Bryke disrupted Aang's Book 2 arc because of their own biases towards him. That's why every iteration of Aang after the original has been increasingly worse. They aren't doing what's best for his character, they're doing what's best for their own wish fulfillment
Maddie "I keep my pain to myself so I don't burden the people I love" Nears and Simon "I throw myself into danger without hesitation for the people I love" Elroy are so painful to think about.
Maddie's dad died and she's watched her mom struggle with addiction her whole childhood. Her worst fucking fear is losing Simon, the only consistent person in her life who she cares about more than anything. Every time he's in danger, she's watching her worst nightmare play out doubly so when it's because he's doing it for her.
Simon was adopted. We don't know much about his relationship with his parents, but we know Maddie is the one person he wants in his life more than anyone else. He could never see her pain as a burden because her happiness and wellbeing has always been his priority. Her assumption that he would run away from her if she shares too much couldn't be further from the truth.
Look at these codependent freaks, man
What's your opinion of Ursa? I have mixed feelings about her. She was a caring mother to Zuko but unintentionally neglected Azula. Not to mention she and her kids laughed at Iroh's comment of burning ba sing se to the ground in his letter. IDK if that's what he specifically said but that was what I remembered.
Also, Iroh is a tragic character but do you think he would've been as bad as Ozai if he hadn't lost his son? He would've cared for Zuko, but he still would've been a conqueror.
I will say, I disagree that Ursa neglected Azula.
If we examine the flashback in Zuko Alone, there's very little evidence to suggest that Ursa even treated them unfairly. When Zuko throws bread at the baby turtle ducks, Ursa scolds him similarly to how we see her scold Azula later. When Azula asks Ursa to make Zuko play with her, Mai, and Ty Lee, Ursa agrees even though Zuko clearly doesn't want to.
It's also important to remember that we're seeing this from Zuko's POV. So while we can say that he and Ursa spent more one on one time together (which would be a valid criticism of Ursa), we can't say that for sure because that wouldn't be something Zuko would be completely aware of.
And if we're looking at Azula's breakdown, it's her own subconscious version of her mother telling her that Ursa loves her. Some have taken this to mean that Ursa never actually told her. I've always taken it to mean that Azula does know that Ursa loves her but has been blinded by Ozai's manipulation to convince herself otherwise.
Of course, I won't pretend that Ursa is infallible. It's absolutely possible that Azula's behavior was reminiscent of Ozai's so she kept her distance. It's also possible that she wasn't as nurturing to Azula and got frustrated with her behavior.
But I do think that she was trying to find a way to parent Azula while working around Ozai's manipulation. I think that she seems harsh in some scenes because she's trying to overcompensate for the damage Ozai has already done to her.
So overall I do think it's less Ursa being neglectful and more her trying her best to navigate an awful situation.
Iroh is... Tricky.
I think he would have still been a conqueror. Had he not lost Lu Ten, he would have conquered Ba Sing Se and the rest of the Earth Kingdom would have probably followed. Then he would have become Fire Lord after Azulong died.
I do think he would have maybe been a less cruel Fire Lord than Ozai if that makes sense? Like he wouldn't try to wipe out the Earth Kingdom like Ozai wanted to do or try to become something like the Phoenix King

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Man I hate Hazbin fans who are like “you just hate Chaggie because it’s a healthy relationship or because it’s a lesbian relationship!” or go, “the whole point of Vaggie’s character is she is trying to find an identity outside of Charlie!!”
Newsflash, I GET IT. That doesn’t mean it’s well written or good. Healthy or being queer isn’t a safeguard from being badly written or boring.
I’ve seen people compare Vaggie to Pearl and I’ve never been so offended as someone whose not a big SU fan. Pearl had so many episodes about her, her relationships to the other crystal gems, her relationship with Pearl. Vaggie gets none of that outside of Charlie.
I really do think chaggie’s only saving grace is that it’s a sapphic ship in a sea of mlm and het ships. That’s it. If you made either Charlie or Vaggie a guy way more people would have issues with it.
The AUDACITY to compare our Pearl to Vaggi is crazy😤
Honestly my issue with Chaggie isn't even that it's toxic. It's that they're bland. . I don't mind Catradora and they're arguably more toxic than Chaggie. Catra and Adora have chemistry and history. You can see why they're together even if you don't think they should be.
(People are eventually gonna ask why I don't like Stolitz if that's the case. That's simply because I don't like Stolas and I tolerate Blitzø at best)
Charlie and Vaggi have none of that. Worse than being toxic, they're boring as hell
Katara: Brings up her mother's death in an attempt to emphasize with other victims of violence. She uses her grief to connect with others and to provide sanctuary.
The fandom: Ugh! Why won't Katara shut the fuck up about her mama? Doesn't she know others have been through worse? Katara is such a bitch for what she said to Sokka!
Zuko: Was burned alive by his father and had his honor dangled in front of his face since the age of thirteen. He holds onto his honor so hard that it leads him to act in ways that could possibly kill him.
The fandom: Haha! Zuko's honor! So funny.
Jet: Mentally unstable from the ethnic cleansing of his village that made him the pseudo father of his team. He tried to do better but was brainwashed and killed mercilessly.
The show and fandom: Haha! Jet's dead. Fuck him tho.
Korra: Was groomed by her uncle and isolated from her support system. Her spirit was ripped from her body and was spiritually tortured.
The fandom: Why did that dumbass trust her uncle?
Aang: Aang is an adult man who dragged his politically important friends on a wild goose chase. He drove them into a storm while on a boat and nearly killed them at sea. When his wife/gf tried to get him to turn the ship around, Aang refused to address any of her points and instead used his trauma as a get out of jail card. Aang's trust in a stranger ended up killing them all but his gf/wife revived everyone. They all forgive Aang and go on a journey at the end of the movie to go collect artifacts from Aang's culture. He even gets a group of Air acolytes who dedicate their lives to Aang's culture and its survival.
The fandom: Yes, I will throw a temper tantrum if my goat experiences a fraction of what Katara and Korra went through in this fandom. Who cares about them? Only Aang gets to kill his friends. That doesn't reflect anything about him at all. If anything, they weren't supportive enough.
The silence from Aang fans since the movie is so telling. They'll drag every other character to hell but the moment Aang fucks up (in one of the worse ways possible, mind you), not one ounce of criticism in his direction.
Which shouldn't be surprising considering how staunchly people defend him for neglecting his kids
You know what's wild to me? Just how... Tame the canon Zutara dynamic actually is.
The way Bryke and antis describe it, it's some toxic barrage of arguments where both parties treat each other horribly. And that's just... Not true? If anything, that's closer to canon Maiko. Or even Kataang considering that Aang's technically lashed out at Katara more than Zuko has post-redemption.
Zuko and Katara admittedly did have a rough start, but they worked out their differences and she forgave him. After that, I would argue they're actually fairly close. Katara felt comfortable teasing him multiple times. She confided in him during TSR before even forgiving him. They were close enough to the point where she was the one he trusted to take down Azula.
As far as enemies to lovers (or shipping in general) goes, they're pretty mild
I personally do not care for the term "media literacy is dead" because it feels like a blanket excuse for a story or creator's shortcomings. Like, I don't think you can use it loosely whenever someone says something you disagree with.
That being said, the thought that Jax abstracting off-screen is bad writing is a media illiterate take.
Fans need to be able to differentiate between fanon and canon. If something created by a fellow fan changed your opinion on a character/ship/etc, that's just your problem
Anyway, this singular piece of artwork has made me dislike Zutara
I already covered this but let's repeat for those who are choosing to be willfully ignorant. This art is over 13 years old made by a fan who may have been 16 at the time and was part of a Disney couples series. She also did Rapunzel, Mulan and others I'm sure you'll come up with some other nonsense as to why those are morally disgusting if we wait long enough.
She was a kid who liked Disney, Zutara and wanted to be an artist - something she achieved - and didn't understand the implications because she was a kid.
American history isn't default knowledge, there are a lot of nations with their own histories that even today do not the true story of Pocahontas, many just thought it was a cute movie and only found out years later. America isn't the center of the world.
No one in the ZK fandom praises this art but we're also not going to disparage a child who didn't understand the implications of her Disney art.
You're cherry picking a decade old, kid made fan art to justify a made up moral high ground and it looks incredibly stupid.
I couldn't imagine being so miserable that I'd deliberately blast a decade old fanart on a post I didn't even bother to tag correctly. It's sad, really

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With Goose's confirmation that Pomni was originally designed with anger issues, it feels like half-validation of my own headcanon that Jax and Pomni are actually pretty alike and that's why they got along (as well as anyone could with Jax anyway).
I like to think that Pomni was a pretty prickly person prior to putting on the headset which is why she didn't have many friends. I think she, like Jax, had a fear of being rejected (obviously for different reasons) so she tended to keep her distance by being pretty harsh with people.
I agree with Goose that it would have been cool to see explored in the show. Low-key, I feel like an episode with Jax, Zooble, and angry Pomni would've been peak
Haru not being in NATLA makes sense don't get me wrong but it still hurts
WHAT DO YOU MEAN PEOPLE GO UP TO MILLIE AND TELL HER THEY BELIEVE I'M GOING TO SOB
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Y'know I'm getting kinda pissed with all the posts that try to make Jax more palatable just because Jax's actions make these people so uncomfortable in their need to have everything 'morally justified'.
Jax was cruel. A complete asshole who caused some pretty irreversible damage. No way about it. But it wasn't because of nothing. It wasn't just for kicks and it damn well wasn't because the show 'was poorly written' or something like that.
The entire show is about being human. It's about what it means to be human when you are in a world that doesn't follow any rules and it has less than a dozen people and you're all cut off from reality and you don't even know who you are so what does it still mean to call yourself human? What makes you that?
Absolutely this.
"Jax is a bad person who did bad things to hurt others" and "Jax is a human being who deserves to be treated as such" are true statements that can and should coexist without trying to make her or her writing seem worse or better than she was. Like OP said, the point of the show is being human and being flawed
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I think Apple White and Glinda are better and more well written examples of “privileged blonde Disney princess-esque characters who are well meaning but are very flawed” than Charlie.
Why does Apple do what she do? Apple is a teen who has been taught all her life if she didn’t follow her destiny her world was going to fall apart and disappear, and her destiny is basically her whole existence she’s been prepped for. So when her worldview starts to crumble, of course she still stubbornly clings onto what she’s been taught all her life until she’s proven wrong.
Glinda is a privileged rich girl who was raised in comfort and security, so when her world view cracks, she chooses the security and comfort of Oz than going with Elphaba.
It also helps to note both Apple and Glinda aren’t meant to be in the right, and are the purposeful opposing viewpoints to Elphaba and Raven.
Charlie is what happens if you make Glinda or Apple the protagonist but don’t have anyone to actually challenge their worldviews as characters, and they were right all along.
To be fair to Charlie, she does genuinely think she's doing the right thing. Glinda knew she wasn't and stuck her head in the sand. Apple... Well, she's a little more complicated.
The show plays fast and loose with Apple a lot. It implies selfishness from the beginning only to later flip the script and say she just wants her friends to be safe. But then she gets jealous when things turned out okay and Raven was becoming more well-liked.
The book is a lot more consistent. Apple in the book is very clearly manipulative, she just does it under the guise of being good and nice. The books do a much better job of showing that Apple's idea of good is more performative than genuine, very similar to Glinda.
Charlie is different, as in she's not "wrong," the show is just terribly inconsistent with her behavior and development and the characters around her
I was thinking, if Jax checked in at Hazbin Hotel, Charlie would treat him similar to how Pomni did from Episode 5 onwards
But unlike the TADC cast, Charlie's friends would kick his ass, or at least put a stop to his antics
Eh, I feel like they wouldn't. Either Charlie wouldn't let them or they wouldn't care all that much. I think they'd all just ignore Jax because they don't have time to give her the reaction she wants to get out of them.
Alastor might, though, for the love of the game