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Let me start by saying that Jensen is of course entitled to his own interpretation/opinion on the show and on Dean’s character. Like the rest of us. We don't have to agree.

We should also keep in mind that Jensen doesn’t have the whole picture as he (like actors do most of the time) did not watch the show and did not experience the story the way we did. Same way we didn’t experience it the way he did.

I completely believe Jensen when he says he did not play Dean this way. But no, Destiel shippers are not crazy to see their relationship in a romantic way. Both can be true. The thing is that Jensen does not get to chose how people perceived it. We all come from different places, we all experienced the story differently depending on what matters to us or resonates with us.

Jensen knows that Dean is a repressed character. He said so himself when answering the question right after this one. People having different readings about this character and his relationships is legit. And our opinions are not worth less because we’re fans. There is a huge portion of fans who saw it this way (romantic Destiel), which gives this reading of the story its credibility. Because THE SHOW is fictional, and this is how it works with fiction. There are layers, and different readings, and the response from the audience is also very telling.

There were many other people involved in the telling of this story. Some of them who actually validated the romantic reading of Dean and Cas' relationship. Even Rob and Rich are commenting on it on their podcast, saying that they finally get it now that they’re watching the show. I love Jensen, I think he’s a great actor and a good person, but he doesn’t have the final say on it. This story belongs to all of us. 

There were many Destiel related things in the show that Jensen is probably not aware of, that support that narrative. Like, at the top of my mind because I saw posts about it recently:

Lucifer always presenting himself under the traits of a romantic loved one to possess someone, and that’s what he did with Dean in 15x19 while pretending to be Cas. 

Or the episode Despair telling the story of 3 characters losing their romantic partner successively (Charlie losing her girlfriend, Sam loosing Eileen, Dean losing Cas). 

Or Dean gifting Cas a mixtape of songs from the band his parents bonded over when they met, and the way there was a focus of the camera on their hands when he handed back the mixtape to Cas… etc. 

These are only a tiny part of the narrative elements that Jensen probably didn’t catch while playing Dean, but they also matter in the reading of the whole story.

What was annoying in his answer at JenMish’s panel was not his opinion per se (because we kinda knew how he felt) but how he disregarded the fact that fans might have a different perception of the story, and that it might actually be a valid interpretation of the story and not just some fan fantasy based on nothing, which is the feeling that he gave.

If he simply had said that he did not play it this way, and didn’t feel the relationship this way, but that he respected that it might be what came across on screen for a part of the audience (and that it’s a valid reading like any other), that would be so much more mature and much better for everyone.

Like, give your opinion but don’t make it the only possible reading of the story. Because it’s fiction, and we should be free to talk about it without being shut down. Especially with a ship as popular as Destiel. I’m maybe naive, but when a story resonates that much in a romantic way with fans, that should make you pause and think about it. Even if you ultimately disagree.

My issue here was how Jensen sounded final. He gave the feeling that he put his opinion over all of ours. Insisting on the word “fiction” to make it look like less than it was, putting it in the same category as the fiction about the incest between the two brothers. Talking about brotherhood and Cas’ declaration being like a coming out to a member of his family (??). And Jensen's tone was kinda harsh when talking about the whole thing.

Jensen is acting offended every time we talk about Dean’s side of Destiel, like if we insulted him. He once said at a con (circa 2009? 2010?) that he wanted to star in a cowboy movie until he saw Brokeback Mountain and his interest just “completely tanked”. I mean 😬😬😬 Of course, it was a long time ago and it got better after that, but this is not a good look at all. And of course people are going to read a little into his defensive reaction to Destiel. What I mean is Destiel should not be treated like a dirty little secret at conventions, because it’s not, and it shouldn’t be. There is nothing shameful about that interpretation. Even if you disagree with that reading of the story.

Haters are gonna side with Jensen, because it suits them well or for whatever reason, but if it didn’t suit them, they would actually notice that his reaction to it is not a good look at all.

This is something I have a hard time getting over. I respect Jensen, like I said he’s a great actor and a great person, but the way he’s handling this topic is really disappointing. I saw some people say that we should stop asking questions about Destiel, but why censoring ourselves? It was a Jensen & Misha panel, and this question was about the relationship between their characters.

Almost 6 years after the end of the show, I’d expect better. Destiel shippers are a significant part of the fandom (127 205 fanfictions on Ao3 right now!), which means the story resonated with many of us. In a romantic sense. Jensen acting like his view of the character is the only valid one just kills the spirit and the joy we might get out of the story. Yes, he played Dean Winchester and I’m grateful. But no, it doesn’t mean he has the final say on who Dean Winchester is and what his relationship with Castiel was.

Again, I can’t stress this enough: asking about the romantic aspect of a relationship that lasted 12 years on screen (may it be romance or interpreted as something else), and that CAN BE read this way because some parts of the story support it, should not be triggering to a 48 years old actor.

Initially I was devastated and angry (fuck Trump) but now…I'm rethinking being in a room full of people hostile to destiel shippers. I dont know how safe I would feel as a queer person anymore, at a con.

It seems like the right wing enshittification is reaching fandom spaces. Cesties and bibros sounding very MAGA like, revelling in this like its some kind of fkn gotcha. I’ve seen so much on twitter, from cesties absolutely enjoying this, being incredibly nasty.

I don’t know how you do it sweets, my stomach is bad enough now, thinking how unsafe I feel right now, how little I want to go to the con anymore. This was supposed to be a dream trip (also turning it into a holiday in Canada) but the con is the last thing I want to do now.

I think it’s Misha's back tracking that hurts the most. I never really needed Jensen’s approval to ship destiel, but having Misha advocate for it? That was important. But to see and hear them laugh about it hurts my heart.

Careless words cause harm. I’m hoping my feelings will change and I’ll become excited again but idk.

It just hurts that it seems like we’re not allowed to have nice things, that we're the butt of some horrendous joke, at the expense of our mental health.

I had made a decision to not publish posts because there were so many about the same topic, so I just wanted make a statement. However, this one I wanted to address.

I'm rethinking being in a room full of people hostile to destiel shippers. I dont know how safe I would feel as a queer person anymore, at a con.

First and foremost, I am so sorry this situation (because of certain types of people) has you feeling unsafe. I can’t tell you how to feel. The same way I refuse to let anyone else tell me how I should feel. But maybe don’t make quick decisions from an emotional standpoint.

Sit with this for a while and process your feelings before actually deciding. I don’t know how much time you have before you can cancel, but I would take that time to process how you feel rather than making a decision from a place of negative feelings.

I agree that it’s a decision that shouldn’t be made lightly. I also think it could be helpful to share my experience.

I was nervous about being a Misha fan at my first Creation con last year. (Also for being over fifty with obvious mobility issues.) I was convinced there was going to be hostility that I wasn’t prepared to deal with.

But it wasn’t like that at all. There were people from all factions of fandom just coexisting. No one asked my allegiances (although it was fairly obvious from my being at every Misha photo op and his panel), people offering to help me get around, and the queer community was out in full force.

There were definitely fans you could tell thought they were above it but, honestly, the rest of us outnumbered them.

I reallyyyy disagree with Misha here. How exactly is it not believable for Dean but it’s believable for Cas? Because Dean loved women? Cas was with women too.