Safe Haven

what happened to hello. what happened to good morning.

Doctor Who (Steven Moffat specifically)

Sherlock (Steven Moffat specifically)

Actually Steven Moffat is basically just this sentiment given human form.

A version of this happened with The Magicians, tbh. Though instead of expectation: men, reality: women it was expectation: smug nihilists, reality: mentally ill queer folks.

Arguably Game of Thrones.

If we broaden it outside of television…I think Star Wars falls into this, at least the sequel trilogy. Maybe the MCU as well. And I can’t help but think of every band that’s ever complained that their fanbase is mostly women. 5 Seconds of Summer comes immediately to mind.

In general, most white male creators seem to have this massively entitled mindset where they want–and think they deserve–the time, attention, and enthusiasm that creative fandom (i.e. the side of fandom more dominated by women) is known for.

They want our eyes for ratings, our word-of-mouth for free publicity, our metas for social media buzz, and our spending power for merch and cons. But they don’t want us. And they don’t really want the responsibility of telling a story to a thoughtful, engaged audience, regardless of that audience’s demographic makeup. They just want to be praised for whatever schlock they cough up.

Mind you it is perfectly possible to make the switch in marketing, but execs would rather throw it all out than have something that doesn’t perform well with male viewers. For example the Rey merch was not expected to be popular, for some reason, there had to be public outcry to get merch of one of the main 3 protagonists. A PROTAGONIST. The fact that she wasn’t a huge part of the 1st launch says a lot already.

And what happened when female fans got too invested in the Sequel Trilogy? The entire writers room didn’t necessarily lash out, but they sure forgot how to behave.

Young Justice

Paul Dini: Superhero cartoon execs don’t want largely female audiences

#WhereIsRey (initial)

#WhereIsRey (ongoing)

Simply, they’re trying to assert a particular worldview via fiction, and upon getting confronted with something else, begin foot stamping. It’s not just men wanting male attention and gatekeeping. It’s that the fiction in the first place was an attempt to curate dominance and whoopsie! they miscalculated.

I’d also love to hear your thoughts, as I literally wrote it for communities like ours to read, so, thanks.

like… the MCU’s communal living Avengers Tower was IN THE MOVIES, it was planned, it was upcoming, people were EXCITED and there was so much fanfiction and fanart… and then suddenly magically all the characters hate each other and don’t share screentime anymore, then they get killed off just to be safe. the fact that there’s been no “replacement” for Stucky , Stony, or Thorki despite SEVERAL new groups of characters that have been shown since Ultron??? hmmm….

the only sign of life for the fandom in recent memory was the Loki show… which you know, Loki was a fan favorite who was killed off, and fans were desperate that he’d be alive, so of course for his revival they…

checks notes

handed the reigns of the show to a man who’d NEVER SEEN THE THOR MOVIES, nor had any idea of who Loki is or was as a Norse God OR as a comics character, and literally repurposed a script that he’d been trying (and failing) to sell to studios, and made sure to sand down any edges that could even HINT at Loki being queer in any way, gave him a girlfriend which ended up muddying the waters of the fandom SO HARD that it acted as a deterrent for people wanting to get into the fandom.

and then they literally put Loki in the box of Forever Alone where he can never have an interaction with any character ever again so any interest you have in the character’s future? wasted. he’s literally holding the multiverse together, guys, asking him to appear anywhere else is Rude actually :P

happy belated bloodymary acknowledgement/iron lung digital release day

if twos a party and threes a crowd what’s four

(ss taken from this post)

Ah, hes hit the bloodymary tower

THE SECOND BLOODYMARY TOWER HAS BEEN HIT

NOOOO THE PENTAGON

Mirrors part 1/?