just so everyone knows where i stand Debora is the best dq5 wife candidate. her sister and the little blonde thing are better off fucking each other crazy yuristyle
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well what i've learned now is that as far as a officially used hero names go, in dq walk, it seems you assemble a party of 4 and in official media the names used are Walk, Skip, Move, and Run
reading what a japanese wiki has to say about zenus is interesting. so yeah, zenus aka gran zenith made celestria as his first daughter and then zenethia and lutiana as his second and third daughters. however, they may be the 3rd and 4th daughters depending on the canonicity of dragon quest walk. yeah, you know the japan-only pokemon go-type game? yeah that got involved with dq9 lore and had zenus' second daughter, ペルセリア (peruseria). idk about that chief. that sounds non-canon, she was NOT mentioned in dq10 so idc
oh my god i've been so stupid. there i was like hey there's one part of dq10 v7 that doesn't add up. so lutiana named the god of human gran zenith after her father. gran zenith was the father of lutiana and zenethia
then the spirit that was obviously celestria was saying gran zenith was her father, she was just created way before zenethia and lutiana
and i was like huh? but shouldn't gran zenith be your like distant descendant or something?
nononono. gran zenith IS the japanese name of the almighty grand architect localised in english as zenus.
THAT WAS ZENUS THE WHOLE TIME THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE FUCK.
what's important though is that lutiana, the goddess that created astoltia, the world of dq10, is in fact the much younger sister of celestria.
it's just so funny i never worked that out cause zenus in dq10 is a much more loving god than the "from dust they came and to dust i shall return them" guy i remember from dq9. guess he got nicer when he was put back together.
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this is so sweet to read in my notes <3 i'm glad someone enjoys me talking all about dqx and the connections to dqix.
also i apologise, when rereading it i realised the grammar was just awful and it makes it sound like i'm saying some things i didn't mean. i must've been super tired when i wrote it. but i'm sure there's enough that you can still make sense of it even if you might interpret it slightly differently to what i meant. just take it with a grain of salt <3
okay i'll tell you some details about dq10 that are NOT spoilers but, i went in mostly blind and not really sure what it was was about so if you want the blind experience, don't read this
so first some context: the game initially released as version 1.0 with a whole story, there were major content updates running to version 1.5 which added side quests with their own little side stories, but the main story of version 1 had a final boss but then left off on a note to be continued in an expansion. so the base game is version 1.
the first expansion released initially as version 2.0 but it was only the first chapter of the version 2 story, it had major content updates running to version 2.4 with each bringing another chapter of version 2's story, ending with another final boss. thus version 2 is the first expansion but 2.0 is the first chapter of it and 2.4 is the last chapter.
likewise, version 3 is the second expansion but ran to 3.5 with the final update actually bringing 2 chapters the community calls 3.5 early and 3.5 late.
subsequent expansions ran to 4.5, 5.5, and 6.5 only with one chapter per update. the most recent expansion is version 7 and ran to 7.6.
now, a spoiler free explanation of what each version is about. note: i'll use the names i mostly learned from the fan translation with some minor changes cause i don't like all of the fan translation team's choices. additionally, some things may have been localised differently in crossover appearances in other games and may be localised even more differently if some version of dq10 DOES get localised some day.
version 1: awakening of the five tribes (2012-2013). a brief prologue tells of you as a human in ethene village in the continent of lendersia in the world of astoltia before you're murdered, lendersia is sealed in shadows, and you get reborn in the body of one of 5 other races of your choice. you travel around the five continents that are homes to the 5 races, each being an island separated from the others but connected but a grand railway. in a quest to gain notoriety so you can slay the foul villain that murdered you and break the seal on lendersia. this isn't connected to dq9 but a major side story released in updates name drops greygnarl like once.
version 2: the sleeping hero and guiding ally (2013-2014). you finally get to go to lendersia, it's a centre continent not conncted by the railway but a large ship called the grand titus is used to reach it. when you first arrive however, everything is not quite as it seems...
version 3: lore of the anicent dragon (2015-2017). travel to the lost 7th continent of nadragand which once floated in the skies of astoltia. discover the lost race of dragon people, the nadravians and why they were sealed. learn a lot about the 7 gods that created the 7 races.
version 4: the 5000 year journey to a faraway hometown (2017-2019). this one's just straight up about time travel, an ability you demonstrated in version 1 but, knew little of. you travel to a different time period in each chapter and learn about the origin of your powers and yourself.
version 5: the maiden of thorns and the god of destruction (2019-2021), i think the fan translation says 'the thorny maiden' which is just silly. travel to the demon world, learn all about the source of the demon miasma that has plagued the world from the start. and the nature of the goddess that created astoltia and the 7 race gods. version 5 was originally intended to be the final expansion so expect a big, climactic ending.
version 6: heroes of the heavens (2021-2023). travel to the illusory land in the sky, the firmament, with the divine capital fourion. home of the angels, followers of the goddess, lutiana, and the true origins of the source darkness, the greatest threat to all of creation from beyond the stars. this is where it starts to actually connect with dq9 because the angels seem to be decended from THE angels, localised as celestrians.
version 7: the door to the future and the slumbering girl (2024-2025). okay, i personally still need to tackle the final chapter at the time of writing but this where it's all connected. leave astoltia behind because we're going to the homeworld of the gods that was ravaged by the true evil of version 6, zeniath. this is where it's at. zeniath seems to be the world of dragon quest ix, at some point in the distant future. celestria isn't around anymore, another successor to the title of almighty rules. nine, aquilla, corvus, they're all long gone i'm afraid but traces of their exploits remain. we only see the north-eastern continent with what was angel falls, stornway, zere, and coffinwell and some pieces of other regions
version 8: the lost children of time and space (2026-???). currently version 8 is set to drop june 25th. that's still 3 weeks away. pre-release content is showing characters that look just like existing dq10 characters but different so i would guess it's some sort of au type thing but that's just my own speculation, we don't even have a trailer for it yet.
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