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jsyk the op of the post about jewish music you reblogged is a zionist
Okay, sure, let's have it out. I imagine I'll pretty much piss off everyone with this.
First: the only confidence I have in my understanding of the political situation of the Middle East is that I have no fucking understanding whatsoever of the political situation in the Middle East. Sure, I've read plenty. I have friends of many many stripes. But I'm not a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect here, folks: I know enough to know how much I don't know, and how much I know is tons.
Second, you say that person is a "zionist." There are three things I find pretty annoying about this as a defense attorney. One is that the term is not defined, and the other is that there is a complete lack of evidence. The third is the implicit assumption that being a "zionist" is enough to wholeheartedly condemn anyone.
Let's tackle these one by one. And, once again, I am neither a scholar of Jewish history nor Middle Eastern history nor anything except American criminal law.
First: definition. There are many possible meanings of zionist that I see people use. One potential meaning of "zionist" seems to be "is Jewish, but fails to disavow Israel as fast and loud as I personally want them to." Sometimes the meaning of "zionist" is just "is Jewish." Sometimes it's "a Jewish person who wishes for a return to a very distant ancestral homeland." Sometimes it's "wholehearted supporter of Israel's war crimes." A lot of pointless arguing, it seems to me, is centered around someone saying they are zionist, i.e., they would like Jewish people to someday have a nice homeland where they don't feel like a strange political chunk in another country, and another person hears that they are zionist, i.e. they enjoy wholesale slaughter of civilians.
Second: No evidence. Self-explanatory. You are an anon. I don't know why I'm supposed to trust your word. I read police reports for a living and I am supposed to be able to trust them, and let me tell you how many lies they contain.
Third: the assumption of condemnation. I literally defend the human rights of sex criminals in court. I defend murderers. What we are talking about, right now, at best, is a human person expressing an opinion, however potentially damaging and offensive (depending on definition of zionism and truth of accusation). Do you think I'm gonna say that Jewish people who express an opinion are inhuman and deserve segregation from the rest of us?
Do you think I'm ever going to stop reaching out my hand to people who use violence? Do you think I'm ever going to lose the hope that someday they will lose the fear that makes them resort to violence?
Finally, now that I've spent some time listing my problems with your case, so what.
Let's use an example closer to home. I'm an American, and I do in fact believe that America is a nation and will continue to be so, and that tearing down all government to give it back to indigenous people (something that is, to be clear, to my understanding, not comparable with any kind of political situation in Israel) is not possible as things stand. And yet nobody's here interrogating me about Donald Trump and his bombing of Iran or whether I support ICE's jackbooted thuggery.
A little further from home? If I met a Russian person, my first ask would not be "Tell me in detail your thoughts on Ukraine and Putin."
And in those two examples, I myself and this hypothetical Russian person are actually members of the country in question that is doing the thing. A Jewish person who is not Israeli isn't even that.
Listen. I think there's a lot to be unpacked about how the insularity of Jewish culture and the separateness of it from the countries where it lives is both in the interest of continuing the Jewish ethnicity and in the interest of the people who want Jewish people exterminated, and how the double-pull of those two interests maintain a tension that otherwise might dissipate. I think there's something real to be analyzed about how modern anti-semitism isn't a recurrence of medieval anti-semitism but a different thing, a sign of fascist thinking.
I think there is a horrific tragedy for everyone involved that the group who was decimated beyond belief in the blackest events in human history now has a very loud and visible nation channeling their survival into rage and violence.
I think that there are lots of Arab nations around Israel that would gladly see every person in it subject to that same rage and violence, and I'm not down with that shit either.
I think the history of who colonized who and when and what pogroms did what and how violence and why are all too fucking complicated to untangle.
I think the only way truly forward for Israel and Palestine is some kind of truth and reconciliation type thing and that Israel as it stands is too scared to see all their atrocities come to light.
I was raised atheist with college professor parents, so you can bet Jewish people in academia were part of my life from an early age. I don't understand antisemitism literally at all. It's completely incomprehensible to me. I also think Arab culture is gorgeous and studied Arabic in college. I don't discount the idea that I have subconscious biases; I've done my best to unpick them, but it's lifelong work.
The whole goddamn clusterfuck is a great example of why violence begets violence begets violence. I reject the idea that One Final Ass-Kicking on anyone's part will solve any one of these problems. The only thing that ends violence is not choosing violence. And that can't happen until enough people in and out of power want the violence to stop. There. Not here. There. It can't be imposed from outside. It has to come from within.
And that's a decision -- I must add -- that I seriously could not have less to do with. White Americans should not be making any of the related decisions.
Here endeth the essay, with one final note.
My Jewish friends are safe on this blog. My Arab friends are safe on this blog. That's all.
Okay you might not be a scholar on the conflict, but this is unironically the best take that someone not a party to the conflict itself can take right now. To call for peace and stability and not be an accelerant to the conflict.
It is best for the civilians caught in the middle to not encourage the continuatiin of violence. And it is best for those of us drowning in the splash effect as the whole world (minus you and a few others) have gleefully turned on Jews.
You are also giving a sign of hope, which has been rapidly disapearing, about the possibility of being able to safely live in the US.
As a Jewish American, and a Jewish woman I can't emphasize enough how reassuring this response was and how grateful I am to see it.
op this was great beside for this one point which must be made very clear.
and how the double-pull of those two interests maintain a tension that otherwise might dissipate
this was tested already. it is called the shoah. german Jews were THE most assimilated. they were germans first, jews second (moses mendelsohns jew at home, german in the street thing, and many of them were barely jews at home).
assimilation has never been a defense against jew hatred. in fact. nothing is. jew haters will hate us regardless of what we do. thus, we should not give up our identities and values and squeeze into a box that will be lit on fire anyway.
Another thing that bothers me is the notion that "zionist" may have many different definitions. It doesn't.
Zionism is the acknowledgement that Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people (historical fact) and that we deserve to live and to have self-determination in our homeland.
Any other definition (e.g. wants to kill all the Arabs) is made up by people who want to create the illusion that zionism is some sinister ideology, in order to defend their "antizionism", which is just antisemitism with a shiny new coat of paint.
In OP's defense on the meaning of Zionism thing, what they said is: "There are many possible meanings of zionist that I see people use." I interpreted this with emphasis on that last phrase, so that it could be paraphrased less ambiguously as: "I see people use the word 'Zionist' to mean many different things." That can be true even while it is also true that the range of correct or authoritative meanings of 'Zionist' is much narrower (and none of them include anything about support for war crimes or killing all Arabs).
And for any would-be linguistic descriptivists out there who want to say that if enough people start using a word to mean something new, the meaning just changes because the only "correct" meaning is in how people use it: that might apply to common words like 'meat' (which used to be a generic term for food and then specialized to refer to animal flesh considered as food) or 'awesome' (which used to specifically mean 'awe-inspiring' but now is just used as an expression of strong approval), but it does not apply to specialized words like scientific or legal terms where the meaning is fixed by the usage of a much smaller community of experts. It also does not apply -- or should not apply -- to culturally specific terms which originate with a particular cultural group in reference to some aspect of their identity or experience. The meaning of the word 'Zionist' is determined by how Jewish people use it in reference to their (our) national aspirations; its authoritative meaning does not -- must not -- depend on how outsiders misappropriate it.
(For the same reason, I really wish people would use 'hakenkreuz' instead of 'swastika' to refer to the Nazi symbol, but I know that's a losing battle...)
^ This is correct re: definition of zionism. I didn't say anything about the correct definition or which definitions are antisemitic propaganda because I was critiquing one thing at a time and at that point I was engaging in legalistic nitpicking.
And just a note with regard to assimilation: again I am not an expert and y'all undoubtedly know more about history, but the undercurrent here feels like y'all anticipate me blaming Jewish choices for anti-Jewish violence. This is not how I roll. Violence is the fault of the perpetrators. Causation -- why the perpetrators did the violence -- can be a topic of discussion without ignoring that basic reality.
So when I talk about 'assimilation', it's not with any assumption or judgment: that shit is not by default good or necessary, and it's not an automatic goal. I'm not the Borg.
I also did not know it was called a hakenkreuz?
Ok that's all
I am not saying you are blaming Jewish choices/actions as a cause for violence.
What I am saying is that there genuinely is not legit causation to jew hate. Ever. It is ALWAYS another excuse which is simply used as a (bad) cover up for the simple "cause" of hating Jews.
See: zionism, race, religion, etc etc etc etc etc etc
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Funny how nobody attacking dems mentions this part.
So every Democrat who did the "symbolic vote" to cut-off aid to Israel (aka our leverage) also voted to cut off aid to Palestine. Wow.
Rashia Tlaib voting to cut off aid to Palestinians is some nasty work.

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Ironic how many Democrats support and now want to do what Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir want
The Israeli far right: "America shouldn't be able to tell us what to do! We should be able to bomb whoever we want and build settlements wherever we want! Take off the golden handcuffs!"
The American left: "omg yeah, I don't want my nice golden handcuffs touching gross Jew wrists. You're so right."
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I have been defending Pokémon go to the polls for a decade and I defend it for another decade if I have to. It was funny. Yall are just misogynists.
and you know what also ive done in the decade since she said this? I've Pokémon gone to the polls!!!!!
can we finally admit this was funny? or are we still pretending she didnt know how to get silly with it?

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wikipedia:
-XYZ is Catholic
-XYZ is bisexual.
-XYZ is Muslim.
also wikipedia:
-XYZ is of Jewish descent.
-XYZ has Jewish parents.
-XYZ’s grandparents escaped Auschwitz and immigrated to America and became Chabad shlichim. XYZ was born at 770. Their parents are a rabbi and rebbetzin in a large Jewish community in Lakewood……….they’re of Jewish descent.
i came across this one the other day. her given surname was cohen and she is descended from 23 generations of rabbis but who’s to say how she identifies really
but later on they clarify that she freed herself from being “ethnically charged” so it’s all good now
My professor met Judy Chicago at the Venice Biennale this year. Judy told her how important it is to be Jewish and proud especially in this world that we live in.
Judy would be so disappointed to read her own Wikipedia page.
"from a certain social identity" good G-d just fucking say what you mean.
Went to look at the page and this one is double-crazy because it's unnecessary. This sentence is written to imply that she was attempting to divest from her ethnic background; in fact, she had already left behind her birth surname (Cohen) and Gerowitz was her married name. She changed her name to Chicago specifically because she felt that both names--inherited and married--were conditional on her connection to men--her father and her husband respectively--and wanted to divest herself of the social identities of daughter and wife. It had nothing to do with her Judaism.
That said: this isn't really a Jew-specific thing as a general principle? I searched up a random selection of people (my 'name a public figure' skills are about to be put on trial) and like, Tom Cruise's bio says "had a Catholic upbringing" and it names the descent of his parents, similar to this. Same with most people. You'll sometimes see "identifies as" (Lupita Nyong'o's page says "identifies as Kenyan-Mexican", after stating the countries where she holds citizenship). Guillermo del Toro's "parents were of Spanish descent" and he "was raised in a Catholic household". Pete Buttigieg's doesn't actually specify his parents' ethnicities at all, aside from mentioning that his father was born in Malta.
They just don't say [X is nationality/ethnicity] as a matter of editorial style. But sometimes the editors bend over backwards to downplay or dismiss someone's Judaism, and they don't quite know what to do with the concept of an ethno-religion.
I used to tell myself, ‘Maybe they’re going through something.’ But then I realized that I was too, and I never treated anyone that way.
You'd think "don't use a fictional creature as an allegory for oppressed minorities and as a horde of vile automatons that it's always okay to kill in the same work at the same time" would be a no brainer, but roughly 70% of all works featuring goblins and/or robots demonstrate otherwise.
Star Wars using this exact formula with droids blows my mind to this day. Like, they really can’t decide whether they’re actually an oppressed group or genuinely mindless automatons whose inner lives we don’t need to worry about.
Given that Solo: A Star Wars Story features a droid liberation activist who's very obviously characterised as a mean-spirited parody of a women's rights activist and whose concerns are consistently treated as misguided and laughable (before they blow her up and use her brain to repair a spaceship), I'm not sure it's that the writers can't decide so much as it that they don't want to say what they really think out loud.
Having been Very Online in the mid 1990s is rough because half of your formative influences are like "yeah, this Flash video engages in pop culture deconstruction that's strikingly topical even thirty years later and did things to my vocabulary that persist to this day, and I can literally never recommend it to anyone because its core premise is a level of homophobic ordinarily observed only under laboratory conditions".
Them: Hey, you were around for the first wave of real webcomics. Which one was your favourite?
Me:
#thank god homestar runner aged well (via @shibascarf)
Homestar Runner is the way that it is in large part because it's a response to the 90s edgelord bullshit I'm talking about; while the characters had earlier appeared in print, the Flash animated version that everybody remembers didn't debut until January of 2000. If it's aged well, that isn't an accident – it's a product of its authors looking at the state of 1990s Internet culture and making a conscious decision to be Not That.
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Do any other fellow Jews ever just get really deep into a fandom, thinking it’s a safe place to go to when you want to forget the bullshit of the world and then remember “oh wait no it’s not because society is antisemitic as fuck and that unfortunately bleeds into fandom.” And then think no one else in fandom is safe and just want to interact with other Jews in the fandom because it feels like they’re the only ones you can trust?
Oof owie my bones
Yea, will never forget the first time I was just chillin and out of nowhere someone just dropped casual antisemitism out of left field.
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