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Also yes, Ellie does say she wants to see it through, but also pretty much all the last conversations they have are about what they will do next. Where they'll go. What they'll do. A sheep ranch. Playing guitar. The fucking moon. Ellie wasn't planning on dying. She was planning on following Joel.
It's not a black and white thing. And as a parent, you're not going to gamble on that. You're going to save your kid even if there is a sliver of doubt, the smallest chance.
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Just feeling very emotional about the finale. I've never liked change- (as a kid I cried for 20 mins when the Beast changed into a human in Beauty and the Beast) and now I'm crying because things will never be the same between Joel and Ellie. I haven't played the game but I have heard bits and pieces of spoilers which now make more sense having this new plot point. Like I just want to live in the first 8 episodes forever (not literally ofc) but just the memory of their relationship in the first 8 episodes cause I loved it it was perfect but I know that this has changed everything between them and IM SO SAD that we can't go back. I hate change:(
the worst part is Marlene was probably right! Ellie was carrying a mountain of survivors guilt--she probably would've agreed to the surgery! But the fireflies didn't ask. They lied and sent her to die.
Anyway, Joel as a parent, did the correct thing. You cannot change my mind. I don't even have kids, but I have nieces and nephews that I absolutely would burn the world down for. My love for them is unconditional and dangerous, and so is Joel's love for Ellie. And he was correct. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.
I condone Joel killing left and right, up and done. But what I won’t condone is you lying to our daughter.
Angry but proud
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Honestly? The only valid love triangle in a YA novel is the one in the Hunger Games, solely for its deeper metaphorical meaning. Like in the movies, it got blown out of proportion as a "ooo who will Katniss kiss, identical hunk #1 or identical hunk #2," but in the books the meaning is written so much better. It's way clearer how they represent her future, like Gale can hunt and wants war and to fight, and Peeta can bake and he's strong and soft. To Katniss, it's so much clearer in the books how in choosing one, she's either choosing to scrap along and fight, or to heal and grow from the trauma she faced in her youth.
And look like this is a short summary, I'm just pissy about how much the symbolism was reduced in the movie until it was "ooo love triangle romance marriage kissing ooooooo"
KATNISS HAVING KIDS WAS A GOOD ENDING
i would have been pleased if she didn't have kids at the end too. women don't need to have kids to be find value(obvi).
HOWEVER THIS was ending was important for her characterization and the new panem post-snow. katniss felt safe bringing children, innocents, into a world safe from the hunger games. she was safe from poverty and tyranny and war. she could live gently and having kids was important because she was healing, and the country was healing. they would be protected. for 74 years children were exploited and abused and katniss knew this firsthand, but she knew there was not threat of that for her kids. they were safe. she was safe.
for a zombie apocalypse show the scariest things sure are the men
The one thing I couldn’t figure out while watching episode 8 was if that group of men at the university were from David’s group then why did they attack Joel and Ellie completely unprovoked.
Then I realised … it’s because they were out hunting.
"female rage is not hysterical" "female rage is calculating" shut up, shut the fuck up. bella ramsey as ellie going absolutely ballistic with a cleaver on her rapist, THAT is female rage
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another thing!! this was another episode that showed us how smart ellie is!! other than the obvious strength that she's shown by keeping joel alive after they got attacked they also show us that she knows how to gather supplies and most importantly that she's actually learned from the stuff joel has taught her!! she hunts!! she knows how to handle weapons!! but what's even more amazing is what comes later when she's taken by the preacher. she's obviously relentlessly feral and violent which is just the ellie that we all know and love lol but she also knows how to think fast and how to draw conclusions!! she figured out what the preacher was doing very quickly and then when they were gonna kill her she used something that she knew would scare everybody and give her some time to get away!! she knew to hide and stay silent and she also used her surroundings to her advantage (the hot wood from the kitchen) and she made it out on her own!! my girl is a total badass <3
The TLOU never has scared me before this new episode. I love horror, so gore and Infected and jump-scares never effect me. But David? David is such a real, scary character, and my heart was beating a hundred miles a minute every time he was on screen. As a teen girl, it’s just so fucking hard to watch. Like that whole line he said about not being scared, that’s it’s just love? It made me want to puke.
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The fact that all it took was Ellie, a fourteen year old girl, to ruin their entire township, kill everyone who was a threat, and practically burn the whole town down. I loooved this episode because they really showed how smart Ellie is, how quickly she can think. She didn’t even need Joel in order to screw up their whole town.
I'm just going to sit here and dwell for a while on how Pedro managed to portray someone both ten years younger than himself…
AND someone ten years older than himself…
Not only in the same show, but in the same damn episode.
Also, this isn't just mad praise for his performance, but for the makeup department as well. They did an amazing job!
