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My toxic fandom take is that I think that it's awful how much we can talk to creators and get answers from them word of god style. We should be out here in a godless place rooting for scraps of lore in the media like truffle pigs out in the fields
Have you watched or are you planning to watch season 2 of the live action AtLA?
I have watched it!
Spoilers ahead, so be warned.
It's not bad, per se. I do want to make that clear. Some of the acting has improved by leaps and bounds this season - Kiawentiio, I'm looking at you, kiddo, you get Most Improved - but I think Gordon Cormier struggles with keeping Aang from being one note, for example. However, I am laying a lot of that at the feet of the directors/showrunners. If you've got a young actor who hasn't yet learned how to build up emotion naturally and in stages instead of going 0-60 and staying there, then you've got to step in and help them. Andrea Romano was directing all the voice work for those kids in the original series and did her usual outstanding job. These kids are clearly not getting that kind of care and attention and that's a damn shame.
I did like Miyako as Toph a great deal - in fact I think she's a standout - but I think Elizabeth Yu is struggling with the complexities of Azula. That's a real fucking tricky character to play. I don't think it's any accident in the original show that Aang/Katara/Sokka/Toph were voiced by kids the same age as the characters but that Zuko and Azula were voiced by adults in their 30's. (Grey DeLisle was, even then, a very accomplished actress, one of the best VAs out there.) I've heard folks complain about Yu's looks - which is just bullshit, she's fine as far as that's concerned - but she's missing a lot of Azula's cunning and underlying pain. She's a very inexperienced actress.
Don't get me wrong, I think NATLA Azula is written to be cunning. But Yu just comes off as a mean girl to me. A bully instead of bar none one of the most terrifying 14 year olds in fiction. She doesn't scare me, and I don't buy that's she's scaring Ty Lee and Mai into trying to kill each other out of nowhere. either. ("What the fuck was that all about?" my adult daughter asked me. "Was it meant to be a joke? Or are we supposed to take it seriously. I can't tell.")
A lot of that is down to the script. Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan is it clunky. The scriptwriters can't make up their minds whether they want the characters to sound contemporary (lots of "okays" and such) or like something from an overdone and overripe LARP (I was waiting for some of the characters to break into thee and thou, I swear to god).
The pacing was glacial in many parts, and there was a lot of just glossing over things that were actually fairly important and which could have easily been addressed and resolved with some tweaks here and there. I thought Season's One script was pretty weak, but Season Two's was worse. That's not good.
That being said? I think what was a problem in Season One has not only not been resolved but has gotten worse. And that's my biggest issue in this show which is:
Who is this version of ATLA for?
Not young kids, like the original. It's way too dark (in every way, including the lighting, the costume design, the sets, etc.) and is focused on the war far more than the original. My kids started watching ATLA when they were seven and I wouldn't let a seven year old watch this live version. Not even close.
Is it for adults? If so, then why are we focusing on a bunch of kids? That's not to say adults can't enjoy a show that has kids as its focus (see Stranger Things) but it is to say that why not focus on the adults even more? Why not reboot the show from an adult POV? Iroh and Ozai, Kuei, etc. Now see that would have been interesting, and I said that during Season One as well.
Instead, they've removed 95% of the humor and sparkle from the original and replaced it with angst and pain. It's not really for kids any longer, and I don't believe that adults who had never seen the original would watch it. It's just not good enough for that. So instead you have the kids who watched it originally that are now adults watching it for nostalgia, and it's just not hitting the mark there either. Or at least I don't think it is.
Listen, I'm not opposed to changes in the original material. I get that some things might not work out in live action the way that they do in the original, whether it's due to budget constraints or CGI constraints or wanting to try something new in the universe or whatever. It's fine. Nobody says that it has to follow the original beat by beat by beat, and I am all for reboots building on different takes of the original.
But when you take one of the very most beloved scenes from the original, something that's been quoted and t-shirted and is an instant identifier of fellow fans and you sideline it completely into a vague and unimpactful 30 second barely there nod to the original, then let me assure you, it is NOT the quenchiest. At all. Might have been in the Si Wong Desert, but not with a glass of it freely offered at a very upscale royal party with hardly any impact on Sokka.
And see, that's a choice. It's a choice to ignore a classic moment so that we can what, use the time on a romance with a new character for the Mechanist? Did we need that? Is it interesting? Is it fresh? Is it relevant? No to all of it.
But it's more than that. It's taking original characters and changing them, not to bring new life or meaning to the show, but just for the sake of change. For example, why is it now Poppy Beifong that is chasing Toph down instead of Lao? There's zero reason for it. None. It does not enhance the script or bring something new or fresh to the table or to Toph's growth as a character. I mean...go woman power? I guess?
Why not focus on changes to the script that will actually enhance the universe? That will bring out something new and interesting to the entire story. They are, to a certain extent doing that to Ozai; he's much more fleshed out than in the original and the changes they've made make him more despicable than before, when he was a one note big baddie. I'm actually down with that. But Ursa? First we've made her marriage consensual, and then we've also made her try to kidnap her own children and be dragged out in front of them instead of what both of them believe is abandoning them. Being abandoned by your mother (or believing that you are) is not the same as having your mother taken from you. Are we going to see the impact of that on Zuko and Azula? Because both of those kids have massive, massive abandonment issues in the original, and we've yet to see anything in their respective characters that would address their mother being physically ripped away from them, which is a different kind of trauma, for sure. It could be addressed in the final season. I'm not holding my breath, however.
I've never minded that they've had this series play out over a few years instead of one; actual kids do grow up and I thought that Suki's acknowledgement that Aang had grown like a bamboo shoot was perfect. (Of course that doesn't explain how he'd be wearing the same clothing that continues to magically fit him especially since he wouldn't be able to replace it since, you know, no more airbenders, but this lack of detail is pretty much par for the course, unfortunately.)
But the lack of a cohesive script is painfully obvious throughout the season. Example: NATLA has made it clear that this is going to be a gritty, more realistic version of the series (I'll die mad about their refusal to have eyes the proper color, this is a fantasy, not a historical Asian documentary, damn it) but we're supposed to believe that Azula, Ty Lee and Mai are just...swanning around the Earth Kingdom by themselves, dressed like Fire Nation Royalty/Nobility and...nobody notices? Who is cooking for these girls? How are they being transported? Where are they sleeping? In the local Stony Reach B&B? Where nobody clocks them for who they are? Is Azula just...killing them after they get their breakfast and moving on?
It's half-assed! Everything in this script is half-assed! It makes me mad!
Things I did like about Season 2:
Chin Han as Long Feng is FANTASTIC. I miss the queue but he's so fucking insidious and manipulative. Better than the original, in my opinion. I am so down with him.
Jet is an even bigger prick here. I am juuuuuust fine with that.
Professor Zei's role was expanded, and in all the right ways. Thumbs up.
Amanda Zhou as Joo Dee got the fucking memo, she was perfect.
Lourdes Faberes as General Sung was a good example of how you can do a gender-swap in ways that work for the story as a whole and not just for gender points. (As in all of the military leaders in the original were men and...yeah. Yeah. Diversity is good. Parent-swapping for no good reason? Not so much.)
Loved getting to see more of Kyoshi and Yangchen, all good. I did like how the spirit library allowed others besides Aang to see them! (Relatively speaking.)
Lo and Li. Will we get to see them in skimpy outfits at Ember Island next season. Please yes.
Kelemete Misipeka as The Boulder was another highlight. Thank you, showrunners, for at least keeping him funny! (My kids and I have been known for years to say things to each other in that voice like "The Mama would like you to take out the trash, please.")
Sokka remains enthusiastic about the benefits of shopping for a really good bag, as he should.
The fact that both Aang and Katara are a little older makes his mooning after her more believable and realistic than a 12 year old doing it.
I guess I was okay about the Painted Lady being in Ba Sing Se? I wasn't mad about it, but I wasn't excited about it, either. I wanted to be excited about it, because I love Katara doing the Painted Lady. Hmmm. Maybe this one belongs in the next category.
Things that disappointed me:
Bosco. Or the lack thereof. BOSCO, YOU LIVE IN MY HEART.
Kuei. I miss the twink of the original series, a guy you could totally believe was a progenitor of Prince Wu. Of course they did take his bear away, so...
No Si Wong Desert and no Sandbenders. BOOOOOOOOOO.
Ty Lee and Mai are both colorless and boring and not even remotely interesting as sidekicks or even on their own. Showrunners, you really cocked it up there. I mean, how the fuck do you fuck up the Enid Sinclair and Wednesday Addams of the Fire Nation? Come on now.
Zuko screaming at Iroh and blaming him for everything. Dude. Better script, please. Predictable and boring. I also was not buying him immediately being that convinced to go home with Azula. The script did not earn that, unlike in the original.
Sokka turning down Suki because he's having some sort of vague PTSD over Yue? I guess? Listen, I think that would have been an incredible addition to both his character as well as the show itself, but once again the script let us down. It's like PTSD made from a tea bag you are using for the 10th time in a row.
Cactus Juice was not the Quenchiest.
I really wish Zuko's scar was as prominent as in the original. It's meant to be an obvious disfigurement, one that can't be overlooked. This scar was made from that same tea bag you've been using for the 10th time in a row for the PTSD.
The costumes remain uninspiring and featureless. They look like something that the Ember Island Players would come up with. For fuck's sake, I've seen serged seams in the closeups. Get out of here with that lazy, cheap bullshit.
How the fuck does barely in her teens Toph Beifong, who has been kept in genteel seclusion all of her life in the countryside, know how to behave and get the best of seasoned courtiers in the Upper Ring? EARN IT, SCRIPT. Again I say, EARN IT, SCRIPT.
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at some point during high school i drew a centaur girl with large breasts because i wanted to draw a character that looked like me, and my biofamily got real upset about it. "why are they so large" because mine are that large. "wouldn't that make it hard for her to run" interesting that you think that but keep trying to make me run. "don't draw things like this, it's morally bad" ok i and my apparently inherently pornographic body will just be over here trying to avoid being looked at
this is not to say porn is bad, tbc. i just wasn't a fan as a teenager of being treated like it was impossible to look at bodies like mine non-sexually. frankly i'm not a fan of it now either lmao. i keep kind of thinking about how so many female protagonists are canonically flat or small-chested girls/women who textually wish they had larger breasts, but i can't remember the last time i encountered a protagonist with large breasts where that fact wasn't meant to be sexual. what is up with that dynamic and how do i destroy it
it's like... in order to be accepted as a woman, the character has to desire the idealized form of The Perfect Woman (or if she's a #feminist, reject and detest that same idealized form, but the focus on it is often still there). but in order to be a non-pornographic protagonist, she can't attain it. the moment you have a large enough chest you don't really get to be a normal character anymore, you have to go to sex world. idk. probably someone better read than me has written some sort of papers on this. idk what search terms to use though
“I would eat his heart in the marketplace” is legit the most savage line I have ever heard, I’d like to personally thank Shakespeare for putting into words that feeling of rage and protectiveness women get when some fuckboy hurts another woman
Okay first off, I will always reblog this post, but secondly, I went to Shakespeare in the Park tonight to see this and all the women cheered *so loudly* when Beatrice said this line, and the guy in front of me looked around all shocked and a little scared and said “… oh wow” and it was ICONIQUE
Hey if you See This can you reblog this or comment on this with a character you headcanon as aromantic, asexual, or both. It can be canon it can be founded on absolutely nothing I just need more aroace stuff on here #yay
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relentlessly funny to me when people treat a relationship between someone in their 30s and someone in their 40s as "age difference". bro i cannot tell you which of my friends are 34 and which are 44. i can probably tell you which ones aren't 30 yet, but it's probable some of them are 50 now and i didn't notice. if you're over 30 and don't have kids, it's kinda all one age until you can collect social security.
☝️🤓 it’s because the further you move toward the earth’s poles, the lower the angle of the sun is at the hottest parts of the day, meaning the radiation hits your whole body, causing it to feel 10-20 degrees warmer than the thermometer reading will tell you. People from tropical climes, aka close to the equator, are used to the sun’s radiation hitting a much smaller target- their head and shoulders.
Also the further you move toward the poles the more pronounced the difference between the length of day and night is. Worst part of a far-north (or south) heatwave is it doesn’t get dark long enough for meaningful cooling.
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I like finding out what people my age and older had as their first cell phone. Anybody younger and their answer is a generic Android or iPhone. Phones from the 2000s were some wacky device like the sidekick or samsung x83 or lg env2
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