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just a reminder that these massive insane ass sleeves went out of style only 3 years before newsies so a 14/15 year old Katherine Pulitzer very well coulda been walking around in these bad boys
I don't even go in here anymore but I need to get this out of my chest
Currently, Kathrah/Newsbians has been well "developed" and is very popular, BUT, we can't deny the whole purpose of the ship it's rooted in misoginy. The whole purpose of the ship, from what I saw, was: "Oh, we've already paired Jack with Davey, but it can't seem like we're ignoring his female and canon love interests, so let's just put them together and call it lesbian representation!!"
This is NOT as woke as some of you guys think it is. It still sidelines both Katherine and Sarah (in most cases) with the excuse that they are dating, and if I may add, saying that they are more "superior" or don't deserve Jack also is NOT that woke, it's just another excuse you use to appear supportive of women while favoring the two main men and leaving them at the sidelines, in addition to reinforcing misogynistic patterns towards Jack even, because, believe it or not, reversing gender roles and make Katherine or Sarah the "masculine and strong" one and Jack the "feminine and sensitive" one and even going as far as saying that Katherine should've slapped Jack when he was at his LOWEST, doesn't make them disappear, it only reinforces them.
My conclusion is that while I love the ship, it serves more as a stopgap and an excuse than a real ship so that the main gay ship can receive attention without backlash. I'm not stopping you from shipping them, especially since I love the ship myself, I'm just sharing a thought.
If you have counter-arguments and want to discuss my points civilly, feel free! I'm always open to new opinions :}
Also, please forgive me if I didn't elaborate very well; I wrote it in a bit of a hurry.
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So a few months ago I read the BEST fic and now I literally cannot find it anywhere. I’m going to describe it and if anyone recognizes it even a little please lmk so I know I’m not losing it
okay it was basically a jatherine modern au where they were both teachers but their students didn’t know they were together until Jack tells this whole story about him and some girl who he loves. The kids start putting the pieces together and J/K reveal that they’re engaged. That was basically it but I remember it being written so well?? Anyway thanks for helping a girl out
So a few months ago I read the BEST fic and now I literally cannot find it anywhere. I’m going to describe it and if anyone recognizes it even a little please lmk so I know I’m not losing it
okay it was basically a jatherine modern au where they were both teachers but their students didn’t know they were together until Jack tells this whole story about him and some girl who he loves. The kids start putting the pieces together and J/K reveal that they’re engaged. That was basically it but I remember it being written so well?? Anyway thanks for helping a girl out
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The newsies fandom has a problem with misogyny, racism, and ableism. But I will be focusing on the misogyny in this post.
I’ve been wanting to talk about this topic thoroughly and actually get my thoughts out cohesively, so here it is.
Fandoms have always been laced with bigotry, and the newsies fandom is not excluded. I usually see this being shown when people talk about Sarah or Katherine. With Sarah, people usually reduce her character to only Jack’s love interest, or they’ll use her as a plot device for something. Now I can see why someone might think that Sarah is an under developed character (I actually believe this myself) but that is no excuse to reduce a characters autonomy. I also don’t really see this a fair argument because a lot of y’all’s favorite character is litteraly white boy #46 with 3 lines of dialogue.
On the other hand, I can’t think of any excuse people can muster up for Katherine. Similarly to Sarah, she’s usually reduced to just a love interest or used a plot device. I see this absolutely absurd because I believe (and objectively) she’s a great character. She’s a character that is very easy to separate from Jack. She’s essential to the plot as well, and the fact that people disagree on that is insane. Yall saying to get rid of her and replace her screen time with some other (WHITE MALE) newsie is actually insnane because it comes off as if yall don’t believe women are able to have elaborate and complex stories (I can add more to this in the comments if needed).
This also leeks into ships of the fandoms (cough cough JAVID). Many of you will do one of the following
-demonize Sarah/Katherine
-ship them together so you have a reason to toss them aside
-forget about them all together
I know fandoms are known for being safe places for queer people to interact and relate with/to media (I am a lesbian myself), but you can create queer relationships without being misogynistic. Find another way that doesn’t include undermining women.
Also don’t you find it strange that the only somewhat popular wlw ship is always overshadowed by a mlm ship?
Look for any Newsbians content that doesn’t include Javid, I dare you
And finally, women having relationships with men doesn’t automatically make them underdeveloped. Stop saying this about Katherine. Shes developed, she has a character.
I wrote this while sleep deprived so please give me some grace
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