the oa theories

What we know;

•Steve, French and Jesse are comatose in the garden.

•The house doesn’t always knock people out, and if it does they can awake (OA after the tree internet and Liam jumping and still being awake and muttering bizarre things only a traveler would pick up, and of course, Karim) but it does awaken a seed once the puzzle has began in the house, whether you’ve solved it or not (Fola)

•Rachel touched the drawing of Steve’s face as if she recognized him.

•in BBA’s premonition, Jesse is in the treasure island hospital beds when he’s asked to be pulled in and BBA can feel across dimensions.

•Jesse’s eyes were open.

•French saw homer in OA’s mirror. Homer acted weird after hitting his head in the shower at the hotel in Cuba. Both scenes are connected by the color green.

•Somehow, the C5 and the haptive 5 are connected.

•Dr. Percy and Ruskin were working together on the house before HAP and the Haptives were introduced and the haptives bodies were already in a group therapy session when they jumped. Why?

•French is a lacrosse player in D1. You can’t be in lacrosse and be a slow runner.

•Obviously, Homer was in D2 when OA and Dr. Roberts were having their therapy session. How did he manifest and why was he in the air ways… as if he was trying to escape?

•Buck rode past a car crash, that had a red backpack in the middle of it. Similar to Rachel’s “NDE” or out of body experience.

•Buck saw Rachel singing to him in his mirror, and both Buck and Rachel sing, connecting them, again.

•NDEs send you to the future; or just another time from your real dimension.

•Steve and OA are deeply connected somehow.

•Hap is a creature of knowledge and what he doesn’t know, he studies deeply and even attempts experiments on living things. Moral or not. Hap has also accidentally killed many “lab rats”.

•Karim is asking about previous children who had gone missing, Steve and Jesse are apart of those children as seen on his computer. When he calls about them, he finds out they all had history of mental illness which means it was documented and easily explained away.

•Nina was in her body when her father passed, and her father had passed a month before OA entered Nina and we know Dr Percy’s experiments ended up getting crazy and going behind Nina’s back at this time, meaning it was all Hap. Which would have given HAP a month to work on the garden prior to OA entering D2. We don’t know how much time passed before OA and Nina integrated but would definitely give HAP ample time to grow a solid human garden.

•Rachel doesn’t have an NDE that gives a movement, making her different from the rest of her tribe. Michelle is capable of looking through the rose window, thus making her body and consciousness different from the C5 tribe. Connected Buck as Rachel once again.

•Steve did the movements for hours after Jesse died, and then acted as if he was enlightened when he was finished. Entered cousin ???’s house as if he had known it for years, grabbed a jacket he recognized then headed to the bathroom, looked in the mirror and was a bit confused then shaved his head.

•We know BBA sees Steve as a young Theo. We know they look similar because of the scene in the rehab when Steve put on his snow gear and BBA started to tear up.

•And we know Theo A. Basically spells The OA. Could this be a big loop? Connecting Steve, Theo and the OA? Is Theo more important than we could imagine?

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My theory is that the C5 and the Haptive 5 are connected. So much so, in different dimensions they’re capable of borrowing each other’s bodies but only to who they are connected to, possibly through NDEs? I’m going to use all the facts we KNOW to either back me up or discredit myself.

Ex: When Homer was in the hotel and hit his head, maybe French had an NDE in a different dimension at the same moment, which sent French into Homer’s body and that’s why when Homer/French look in the mirror, French connects what he’s supposed to do? This theory is built on the connection and other theories having to do with French taking over homers body in Cuba. this would make sense as to why both scenes are drenched in green. A dimension bleed?

So let’s talk about Homer’s NDE to D2 and how they are connected and the evidence to suggest they “body borrow”.

Are we to believe two Homer’s appeared in the same dimension for just that moment? And Homer was ALREADY trying to crawl through the tunnels when he jumped in his NDE.

Let’s entertain the idea that The C5 tribe and the Haptives borrow each other’s bodies.

Did Rachel borrow Buck’s body during her NDE, which is why she felt like she was floating in an out of body experience above the red backpack? Buck was riding on his bike when he drifted past the wreck and the red backpack. That could give a “floating” feeling? There are theories and pictures out there that when OA was hiding under the blanket in the first episode, we can see a glimpse of Rachel. Weird, no?

Let’s go deeper and talk about Homer’s NDE in D2. He was crawling through the air vents, like he was running from something already. He felt chased.

When the nurse with the red hair came to tell Dr. Roberts about a -patient- running through the halls and mentioned they ran FAST caught my attention.

First off, if It was a patient this nurse would know just by seeing them and she did, because she mentioned how he ran fast. So we already know this was a patient who had been here for quite a bit and they ran fast.

Who else runs fast? (Minus Steve)

French. He was a lacrosse players in D1, which hints at him being fast.

I know. At this point you’re probably saying “why the fuck was French in the air vents in the first place?” I did too.

We know French, Jesse and Steve were in the pool garden, as well as Liam. We also know Liam wasn’t dead leading up to him being in the garden, but the seed was still awakened. We don’t know what happened between there, we just know Liam is comatose and the seed was sprouted and prior to that, he was in the house 60 hours ago. This all leads me to believe that although the house can cause you to pass out, it can also crack you up mentally like Liam, and anyone who is an inter dimensional traveler would listen to Liam’s seemingly crazy rambles and know there was some truth hidden in it. (HAP heard his rambling)

This would cause HAP to want to study them and what they say and what they have seen, which means they have to be alive for that. Did he do this with the C5 after they had entered and then accidentally killed them, thus sprouting the seed?

We know that the Haptives and HAP have gotten to D2 a month before OA, given Nina’s father’s death timeline. This would give HAP ample time to start his garden and get it to where it was when Nina/OA entered the pool room, as well as given the extra time it took OA to integrate with Nina.

So let’s go with the idea that after they had solved Q-Symphony, they awoke to be patients at the clinic.

Any doctor would tell you that they aren’t dead, just knocked out and given time they could have woken, started mumbling crazy shit like Liam and were committed to the best mental health clinic in town, Treasure Island? Just like Nina was?

Then once HAP jumped into Dr. Percy’s body, he already had the basic blue print of the house on knob hill, and lab rats to go with; His Haptives AND the C5 (only French, Jesse and Steve though.) this would make sense as to why Rachel touched Steve’s face like she’d known him, or met him. She did, when HAP was experimenting on his very much alive but mentally broken body?

We also know HAP has a history of getting angry and accidentally killing his “lab rats” so what if that led to the discovery of the seed sprouting?

Somewhere along the lines, someone had to experiment on another to find that sprout.

HAP experimenting on Liam, when he was conscious, would probably lead to that discovery and sounds very probable to me. Especially if we are to believe that Liam was the first flower discovery.

This all makes me believe that there is a chance, after the children were knocked out and taken (by whoever Ruskin pays to take the kids out, cause there has to be some way he gets them out and hands them over to Percy, as a way to keep evidence away from the cops) they were indeed patients. The conversation Karim had on the phone about all the missing children. What did they all have in common? Mental illness.

How would Karim find that out? If it was documented, it’s easily accessible info.

We all know HAP loves to gaslight people into thinking they’re crazy so he can experiment without interruptions. Once a cop, or PI reads “mental illness” they usually write it off as the reason for adisappearance as a mental disturbance.

I honest to god believe Jesse, Steve and French were live patients of Dr. Percy’s before they “disappeared” (became experiments) when HAP and the Haptives jumped. That would explain why French was crawling through the air vents and trying to run away, he was being chased by HAP and his team, and that’s when Homer jumped into French and Homer himself FELT chased.

There’s also more evidence to suggest they were patients from BBAs dream premonition about Jesse. Jesse was literally laying in a treasure island bed, just like Nina’s when she was being separated from the rest. If BBA can feel across dimensions, was that BBA feeling D2 Jesse screaming for help and to “pull him out” of the water? Could that be why Jesse’s eyes were open, cause although D1 Jesse wasn’t saved, maybe, just maybe, BBA awoke Jesse in D2.

And if ANY of my ramblings are true, and they’re all connected and can borrow each other’s bodies… whose body was OA in when she was on the plane in D3? We know for sure Steve is in D3 and he’s connected to Theo and the OA.

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If the second season took part inside of Homer’s nde, and part 3 will be about Scott’s nde… Then the 4th season (or part 4) will be about Renata’s nde! It’s the order in which they received the movements!

OA had the 1st movement, homer the 2nd, scott the 3rd and renata the 4th!  5 movements = 5 seasons.

We learned about scott’s nde in 2x07 and we know s3 will take part in our reality. However, we know nothing about renata’s, except for what OA said: that her guardian (guardian angel?) told her about amnesia being a possible side effect of traveling between dimensions. So her nde remains a mystery (until next season at least).

Aion: Researches into the Phenomenology of the Self (Carl Jung, 1951)

“God unfolds himself in the world in the form of syzygies (paired opposites), such as heaven/earth, day/night, male/female, etc. The last term of the first series is the Adam/Eve syzygy. (…)

The unknown author understands good and evil as the right and left hand of God, and views the whole of creation in terms of syzygies, or pairs of opposites.

In much the same way the follower of Bardesanes, Marinus, sees good as “light” and pertaining to the right hand (δεξɩóν), and evil as “dark” and pertaining to the left hand (ἀρɩστερóν). (…)

If it has been believed hitherto that the human shadow was the source of all evil,

it can now be ascertained on closer investigation that the unconscious man, that is, his shadow, does not consist only of morally reprehensible tendencies,

but also displays a number of good qualities, such as normal instincts, appropriate reactions, realistic insights, creative impulses, etc.

On this level of understanding, evil appears more as a distortion, a deformation, a misinterpretation and misapplication of facts that in themselves are natural. (…)

But we cannot stop even at this realization, for it turns out that all archetypes spontaneously develop favourable and unfavourable, light and dark, good and bad effects. 

In the end we have to acknowledge that the self is a complexio oppositorum precisely because there can be no reality without polarity.“

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_wall

“The fourth wall is a performance convention in which an invisible, imagined wall separates actors from the audience.

While the audience can see through this “wall”, the convention assumes, the actors act as if they cannot. (…)

“Breaking the fourth wall” is any instance in which this performance convention, having been adopted more generally in the drama, is violated.

This can be done through either directly referencing the audience, the play as a play, or the characters’ fictionality.

The temporary suspension of the convention in this way draws attention to its use in the rest of the performance.

This act of drawing attention to a play’s performance conventions is metatheatrical.”

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust

“The erudite Faust is highly successful yet dissatisfied with his life, which leads him to make a pact with the Devil, exchanging his soul for unlimited knowledge and worldly pleasures. 

The Faust legend has been the basis for many literary, artistic, cinematic, and musical works that have reinterpreted it through the ages. 

‘Faust’ and the adjective ‘Faustian’ imply a situation in which an ambitious person surrenders moral integrity in order to achieve power and success for a delimited term.”

The Devil and the Deep Blue Sea: Faust as Jung’s Myth and Our Own. (Naomi Ruth, 2009)

“In an early essay—a favorite of mine, “The Type Problem in Poetry”— Jung describes Faust as a “medieval Prometheus” who defies the “accepted gods”.

In that passage he quotes Mephistopheles’ self-description, a phrase we find quoted over and over again in Jung’s work:

“part of that power which would ever work evil yet engenders good.” That, in a nutshell, describes the ethical dilemma of the shadow. (…)

Goethe’s Faust is a prophesy of our collective hubris, our restless desire to explore all the worlds and to feed our hungry egos.

It is a prophesy of our ethical dilemma. We want to touch the moon and bring back moon dust. (…)

As we know from Goethe and from Jung, there is something marvelous about all this exploration, something that widens consciousness, frees us from the old gods. 

We know this also from the powerful experience of the astronauts who first landed on the moon—they saw our planet’s fragile beauty.

That image of a delicate blue globe in a dark sky pervades our collective consciousness.

But we also know from Goethe and Jung the terrible danger of inflation, of hubris, in the accumulation of such power and knowledge.

In a fascinating book the Princeton professor of German and comparative literature, Theodore Ziolkowski, argues that the myths of Adam, Prometheus, and Faust have in common what he calls “The Sin of Knowledge,” which is how he names his book. 

He writes: “‘Faustian,’ thanks to Oswald Spengler, designates not simply an individual who makes a compromise with evil forces in order to achieve his ends, 

but also an entire technological age that applies intellect often destructively to the subordination of nature.’“