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just read sawkill girls . v busy thinkin abt marion althouse :/ queen of sad
Beware of the woods and the dark, dank deep. Heāll follow you home, and he wonāt let you sleep.
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As my URL suggests, I would like to mention a problem with A/COTAR I've had for a good while:
C/alanmai.
I'd like to make it clear before we begin:
What happened on C/alanmai was sexual assault.
There. I said it. I expect the stans and their flying monkeys momentarily.
All book quotes are from chapters 21 and 22 of A/COTAR.
Now, in the book, C/alanmai is supposed to signal the start of spring and "restore the magic of [P/rythian]" But Roselin Productions so eloquently called it a faerie orgy, so that is how I'll describe "Fire Night" from here onwards.
Also C/alanmai is a real May Day festival in Wales. It is mostly referred to as Calan Mai, the "Calend (first day) of May"or Calan Haf, the "Calend of Summer".
Quote from a BBC article about Calan Mai:
'Spirit nights', or ysprydnos, took place on May Eve. It was one of the three nights in the year when the world of the supernatural was closest to the the real world.Ā
Other than this, it appears that the true Calan Mai is not dissimilar to other May Day celebrations across Europe.
No sex to be seen.
So S/jm plucked up a Welsh holiday, removed the space between the words, reduced it to a faerie orgy for her YA book?? Ew.
Anyway, onto the meat of my problem.
F/eyre is warned multiple times by both L/ucien and T/amlin about C/alanmai. When she bugs him enough, L/ucien finally explains everything.
āFire Night signals the official start of springā in P/rythian, as well as in the mortal world,ā L/ucien said. While his words were calm, they trembled slightly. I leaned against the wall of the hallway, forcing myself into a casualness I didnāt feel. āHere, our crops depend upon the magic we regenerate on C/alanmaiā tonight.ā
āTonight, T/am will allow ⦠great and terrible magic to enter his body,ā L/ucien said, staring at the distant fires. āThe magic will seize control of his mind, his body, his soul, and turn him into the Hunter. It will fill him with his sole purpose: to find the Maiden. From their coupling, magic will be released and spread to the earth, where it will regenerate life for a year to come.ā
He also explicitly tells her that if she were to go to the orgy, T/amlin will choose her as "the Maiden", but āit wouldnāt have been T/amlin who brought [her] into that cave.ā
After L/ucien infodumps this, F/eyre's reaction is:
It made me sickā the thought of T/amlin forcing me, that magic could strip away any sense of self, of right or wrong. But hearing that ⦠that some feral part of him wanted me ⦠My breath was painful.
Now, I don't know about you, but if I was told that if I went to a faerie orgy, being told to my face that the man I like could very well force me into having sex with him if I show up, I might decide to listen to L/ucien and stay in my room.
But F/eyre refuses to listen to the warnings and goes anyway. She is found by T/amlin. He grabs her, and she tells him to let her go. But he doesn't.
He grabbed my hands again and bit my neck.Ā I cried out as his teeth clamped onto the tender spot where my neck met my shoulder.
I couldnāt moveā couldnāt think, and my world narrowed to the feeling of his lips and teeth against my skin. HeĀ didnāt pierce my flesh, but rather bit to keep me pinned. The push of his body against mine, the hard and the soft, made me see redā see lightning,Ā made me grind my hips against his.Ā I should hate himā hate him for his stupid ritual, for the female heād been with tonight ā¦
His bite lightened, and his tongue caressed the places his teeth had been. He didnāt moveā he just remained in that spot, kissing my neck. Intently, territorially, lazily.Ā Heat pounded between my legs, and as he ground his body against me, against every aching spot, a moan slipped past my lips.
Despite being told no, T/amlin bites F/eyre, and she bluntly says she should hate him for what he's doing. Despite her body's reactions, F/eyre clearly has not consented. She told him no, and never said anything else. Also T/amlin forced her to engage even though she didn't want to.
This was where I stopped reading; having a sexual assault scene in a book between the main character and the love interest just left a horrid taste in my mouth.
In the next chapter, which takes place the next day, F/eyre gets this reaction to (rightly) calling T/amlin out:
āWhile I might not have been myself, L/ucien and I both told you to stay in your room,ā T/amlin said, so calmly that I wanted to rip out my hair.
I couldnāt help it. Didnāt even try to fight the red-hot temper that razed my senses. āFaerie pig!ā I yelled, and L/ucien howled, almost tipping back in his chair. At the sight of T/amlinās growing smile, I left.
While, yes, F/eyre should've listened to their warnings, it doesn't excuse what T/amlin did to her. And the fact that L/ucien, who was so concerned for her safety in the last chapter, laughs at her outburst makes this even more disgusting.
Princess Winter Hayle-Blackburn from The Lunar Chronicles.

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thorne in that one scene in winter: she has great legs.
me:
I love Marissa, but she really should not be promoting this type of relationship. You're basically telling young girls it's okay to date that eighteen year-old when she's like, fourteen. You've barely gotten out of middle school at that age. Girls do mature faster than boys, but an eighteen year-old male is an adult. It's okay once your eighteen, (WHEN YOU'RE AN ADULT) to date someone like ten years older than you. You float you're own boat at that point. I know plenty of couples that have a ten year age difference. It's different though when you're fourteen.
(I'm sorry I really had to get this off my mind)
honestly tho! Cress is 15, Thorne is 21. Besides the obvious age gap, shes been isolated all her life and is very innocent, and Thorne is a hoe. Like actually no. the fuck?
i did see a headcanon where like the legal age the EU then is probable like 16 since everyone is dying bc of letumosis. which makes sense, and like yea if everyone was dying i gUeSs it would be (kinda not really) okay to be with someone 6 years older as a teen. but i totally agree with jacihayle.Ā
Cress is 16 and Thorne is 20 but the point still stands. It's an unpopular opinion but I could never stand Thorne due to the age gaps and the general attitude he had towards women. He was funny and had his moments and was a great character and is a hero but the age gap......
THANK YOU. This is the one thing that has always irked me about the lunar chronicles. I didn't have that big of a problem with Thorne at first because I did find him to be just a comedic relief character. And even in the beginning of Cress he would brush off Cress's crushing tendencies on him saying that he wasn't a good person and she should direct her interest elsewhere. Which also brings up why I've never been a huge fan of Cress either I guess. She's that real life fangirl who--even though she's sweet and innocent--is really trying to push her way into a relationship with a "famous" person that's again too old for her.
When I started to have a real problem with cresswell being a thing is when Thorne started to become sexually interested in her, when he thought that she had great legs and that whole makeout scene in Winter that was far too steamy for a 16 year old and a 20 year old.
I don't think we can deny that relationships like that happen in real life (16 yo with a 20 yo) because they do. My mom and dad were 15 and 19 when my mom got pregnant with me, so trust me when I say I know about this shit better than most people. But just because they happen doesn't make them okay or healthy. And just because they happen doesn't mean we should romanticize them. Thinking that Cress and Thorne are as old as my parents were when I was born honestly makes me sick to my stomach because being 16 and 20 is just inherently a terrible age to be un a relationship.
And their relationship isnt just unhealthy because of the age gap, because it's between a minor and an adult. Because technically Cinder and Kai is a relationship between a minor and an adult and technically Scarlet and Wolf have a larger age gape between them than Cress and Thorne.
What also creates a problem is their power imbalance. Thorne has lived in the world. He's had experiences both good and bad. He's socialized with people and he knows how the world works. Cress hasn't had those things. For most of her early life she was in a cave with a bunch of other children her age sure, but she never met people who didnt have the same experiences as her. And then she spent 5 years in a satellite by herself. She does not have the same level of life experience as Thorne and to me that's what makes this relationship go from already inherently bad because of their ages, to a million times worse.
I'd like to add something.
The bathtub scene.
HE LITERALLY WALKED IN ON HER NAKED. YEAH I KNOW HE WAS BLIND BUT HOLY STARDUST MARISSA. SHES SIXTEEN. HES TWENTY. YOU DIDN'T EVEN GIVE JACINTER A SECOND KISS BUT YOU HAD A TWENTY YEAR OLD MAN WALK IN ON A SIXTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL WHILE SHE WAS IN THE SHOWER. REALLY.
I honestly forgot that scene existed because I blocked it out of my memory. But I just recently reread part of Cress with my little cousin--who's almost 12--and she thought that that scene was weird and uncomfortable. Because it is. It's sooooo uncomfortable. Like yes, okay, Thorne is blind and can't see her, but he's still invading her privacy. He's not giving her space. Which like, okay, I don't think it was his intention to get into her personal space or make her feel uncomfortable because he couldn't physically see her and didn't think there was a problem with that...
But is that what we want to teach young girls?
Do we want to teach them that they're not allowed to have any form of privacy no matter what the circumstances are?
Do we want to teach them that they should grin and bear things that make them uncomfortable?
Do we want to teach them that anything romantic that happened between Cress and Thorne is healthy?
Girls deserve privacy.
Girls should not be forced to pretend to be comfortable with something when they're not.
Girls should not be taught that this type of relationship is good, okay, and acceptable.
The bathtub scene did not tell us that.
^^^^^x100!
and kinda uncomfortable age gaps are pretty common in marissa meyerās books. nova and adrian from the renegades trilogy are 16 and 18. cath and jest from heartless were around 17 and 20 (plus, it always made me rlly uncomfortable how attracted the king was to cath... i know itās set in a time where relationships like that were common, but that doesnāt make it healthy). i donāt remember how old the other tlc characters were but there definitely were some more uncomfortable age gaps.
just make them both minors or both adults marissa, itās not that hardĀ
Wait I'm pretty sure Nova and Adrian are both the same age? Like 16/17? Correct me if I'm wrong though
Yeah Nova is 16 and Adrian is 17, so their age gap isnt weird. I honestly don't remember how hold Cath and Jest were, but I thought they were closer--or both adults.
so, Iām reading an enchantment of ravens and Iāve finally read the Teapot Scene
an enchantment of ravensĀ ā fae
@booksocietyās Love is in the Air event: An Enchantment of Ravens by Margaret Rogerson
āAre you in love with me?ā I blurted out. A terrible silence followed. Rook didnāt turn around. "Please say something.ā He rounded on me. āIs that so terrible? You say it as though itās the most awful thing you can imagine. It isnāt as though Iāve done it on purpose. Somehow Iāve even grown fond of your - your irritating questions, and your short legs, and your accidental attempts to kill me.ā I recoiled. āThatās the worst declaration of love Iāve ever heard!ā

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āWhat are you doing?ā I asked. āYou canāt sleep here.ā
āYes, I can. In fact, I must. I canāt let any harm befall you, so itās best I stay close.ā
āYou could offer to sleep on the floor, like a gentleman.ā
He appeared horrified by the suggestion.
āAnd Iām not certain youāre in any state to protect me,ā I went on, sensing a lost cause. āJust now you were almost assassinated by a teapot.ā
Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā ā Margaret Rogerson, An Enchantment of Ravens
This is what I was talking abt so the white didnāt get double she got more than quadruple
Weāre talking abt the same NK Jemisin that one the Hugo awards three years in a row for the broken earth trilogy this is what antiblackness looks like in publishing
Look my feelings about Twilight are complicated but complicated in the way that I hate literally everything about it.
I try to recognize that the author herself was raised in conservative Mormonism and thatās where sheās coming from and that sort of thing can mess you up (especially after a couple of discussions with people who managed to Get Out Of That Business) but then we have the non Mormon publishers, the non Mormon marketers, and the non Mormon fans who have no excuse for looking at this and saying āyeah these are great messages! Especially for teenaged girls!ā
My distaste for the author is considerably less than my distaste and outright fury at the people who took a book with clear abuse apologism, racism, and child grooming, decided there was nothing wrong with it, and have now decided that really the only thing people had a problem with was that it was liked by teenaged girls.
Honestly, would I hate it less if it was marketed to a different audience? Yes. But itās not because teenaged girls like it. Itās because this is what people think teenaged girls SHOULD like.
In short, I congratulate no one involved in the endeavor and no one involved in the resurgence.
Thereās not much worth salvaging from this series. An adult āimprintsā on a fucking baby.
Also confederate sympathies. Fuck this book and fuck everyone who acts like itās good or ānot that bad.ā
Oh god Rin posted updates about M Lee on twitter and she somehow apologized while also making it worse
god, is she seriously pulling the ānever heard of youā shtick? youāre not that big an author, Lee, grow the fuck up
and who says that in an apology?

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draw nina zenik as fat you cowards
*cracks knuckles* all right, letās go
Hunt: is constantly sexualized, constantly lusts after Bruce, a white woman who treats him abominably, is a fucking slave.
Fury: sheās not complex. we barely know her, and all we know about her is that she might be gay (since sj///m is allergic to that word, itās not fully clear) and that she kills people. thatās it.
Juniper: is fetishized, is black but also a faun, thus contributing to the black characters being animalistic problem, and all we know about her is that she likes to dance
Isaiah: his one defining character trait is that heās gay. heās pretty flat on the whole, though i will admit i like him more than most other characters in the book
Randall: heās not a bad character at all, and we actually learn a bit about his backstory, but heās still a very small secondary character
Naomi: who? nah, i know sheās in the triarii but sheās essentially killed and doomed to live in a box at the bottom of a trench for the rest of time. hereās hoping Hunt rescues her.
Hypaxia: i donāt have much to complain about with her bc she was interesting, but sheās also a Manon copycat
Declan: we barely know him. heās a frat boy who likes to party. yes i like him more than most other characters, and i do love he grabbed his laptop to protect it when Hunt killed Sandriel, but we still barely know him
the Viper Queen: sheās a villain who runs the Mear Market, aka sells humans for sex. fuck off with your praise.
casual mentions: bite me.
sj///m has done little to earn such praise about CCity. stop coddling the woman and listen to people who talk about how problematic the so-called rep in CCity is, and praising her for the bare minimum is fucking bullshit. sheās being a decent human being for including diversity, however shit her diversity is, and youāre acting like sheās cured cancer for fuckās sake
Lemme have a crack at these:
Hunt, whose identity isĀ ānot defined by being a POCā: yeah, well, thatās because itās tacked on and left so ambiguous as to be meaningless. Also, heās literally a slave and thereās an entire conversation in which this book brags about how much he cost.
(I fucking DARE YOU to tell me SJM spoke to a single POC while writing this book, after that)
Fury and Juniper: respectively, fit into theĀ āemotionless, standoffish asianā andĀ āanimalistic black personā stereotypes. We get all of three sentences of semi-confirmation theyāre in a relationship, thatās nearly as cagey as the shit Disney keeps patting itself on the back for. Itās barely a step up from queerbaiting, and does not deserve a modicum of credit asĀ āgood queer repā ffs
Isaiah: yeah literally his only character traits areĀ āgayā, āhotā, andĀ āwhy is he the leader instead of Hunt when Hunt is so much more powerful.ā Heās also used as a POV character early in the book as a lens for us to meet Hunt, and to tell us how hot Hunt is. Because heās gay!
Randall Silago: A bit character. I like this one, but Iām pissed that his brownness has led some stans to say Bryce isĀ āHispanic/Latinx coded.ā Lol. No. Go away. Donāt give credit where none is due.
Naomi (OP calls her the āwraithā): pretty sure the Wraith was actually Viktoria? You know, that character who barely had a role in the plot and then was brutally punished to fuel the male protagonistās angst?
Hypaxia: Sheās fine I guess?
Declan: Sure, heās fine too.Ā
The Viper Queen: I donāt recall her being described as havingĀ āeast asian featuresā, and Iām a little disturbed OP does, because this character is literally a Dragon Lady stereotype.Ā
Casual Mentions: AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA you cannot be fucking serious.Ā
Sooooo out of a massive cast thereās this handful of queer/POC characters, plus those much-lauded ācasual mentionsā, and only like, four, are not inherently problematic. Why are people acting like this deserves a standing ovation?
A stan friend of mine recently informed me āthereās much more body diversityā in this book, so letās examine that, too. I cannot think of a single male character who isnāt described as a gorgeous hunk of muscle, and the only female character described as anything other than thin (Lehabah), gets killed off to save Bryce. Also, she was a slave.Ā
(donāt come at me withĀ āBryce is plus size.ā Sheās explicitly described asĀ ātall and lankyā,Ā āheavier than she looksā (in text, this is due to muscle), just with big boobs and an ass. Guys, thatās not a perfect body type for ballet, but itās still a body type our society puts on a pedestal. Thereās nothing groundbreaking here.)
Finally, regarding the whole āalphaholesā thing yāall seem to think is so damn subversive:
The thing is, I really believe SJM tried with this book. I really believe this is her idea of a herculean effort at quality representation, and it feels like thereās someone holding a fucking gun to her head to get her to do it. I donāt think itās malicious, but it is ignorant, and demonstrates a frankly obscenely privileged and sheltered perspective.
Iām really disappointed in all of you who think this book does anything beyond the bare minimum, who see nothing wrong with the way LGBT/POC folks are portrayed in SJMās books. Who come at me RECOMMENDING this insulting bullshit, because itās actually that groundbreaking to you.
Get some standards and LISTEN to those of us who are calling these books out. I definitely donāt do this for my health.Ā
stans have said that about Bruce??? heās her fucking stepdad!! not by blood!! what the fuck!!
also, every female character but Lehabah and Bruce is given the description āslender,ā which i know bc i made a post screaming about it while i read. itās bullshit. i wish stans would have a little reading comprehension and cease to coddle their fav bc maybe then weād be getting somewhere instead of arguing the same goddamn points yet again