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y'all, i "fixed" that hug ;^;

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Regardless of how it happened or what the original intention was, I like to imagine Storer thinking he'd made the casting decision of the century by casting mg as carmy's love interest. Like, "they already date in real life, this'll be easy. Just roll the cameras and call action" And then being completely blindsided when the chemistry turned out to be the equivalent of chicken seasoned with nothing but water and salt, and feeling just a little embarrassed having to ask them to try to bring a bit more flavor to those scenes.
wait... Ted's the maintenance guy and they still had to spend money calling in someone else to fix that damn cable?? and he's STILL on payroll??? that's such a waste of money. i'd fire him and hire the plumber from the finale instead.
one thing i love about the bear with sydney and her dad, (at least from what i can recollect) he is never like “okay, but when are you going to drop this career thing, get married and start having kids?” i love how he’s always worried about her but never says getting married and having kids is the answer to her problems or what will make her ultimately happy
Given the fact that Carmy uses Syd as a grounding point and seems to have these little mental snapshots of her whenever he's panicking or just needs comfort, I keep thinking about that scene with C where they're having sex. Carmy's already visibly anxious, but then you can see him drifting further and further away from the moment, his heart racing... and then my brain goes: what if Syd was the person his mind reached for?
Like... in the middle of that.
And then maybe he has a split second of clarity, realizes that's completely unfair to his girlfriend and honestly pretty inappropriate, and that's when he just... can't keep going
I have such mixed feelings about this thought. It's past 1 a.m. so I have no idea what I just wrote.

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genuinely what is the explanation for carmy missing the cute little party at sydney's place . is it bc he's not in the group chat. is it bc if him and syd were in the same enclosure they would be extremely insane and obvious about each other and the show would just end . Help
In my head it's because, realistically, neither of them would've survived being that close to each other all night. Everyone would've gotten drunk, someone would've suggested spin the bottle, they'd end up making out, and Storer would've had to end The Bear two seasons early. End of discussion.
But seriously, if we're talking about what Storer was trying to do, which was basically torture Carmy, Syd, and all of us for two more seasons like the menace he is, putting them in a situation where they actually had time to talk, be emotionally vulnerable, or just be closer would've completely gotten in the way of that. I genuinely can't picture things getting as bad for SydCarmy or the restaurant if Carmy had been there to see Syd in her own space, loosen up a little (or at least pretend to), notice something was off, follow her outside during her panic attack, comfort her, and maybe let them actually be honest with each other. Same goes for the hospital. If he'd gone with her, season 5 probably wouldn't even exist, or it'd be a completely different story. There's just no universe where these two have a real conversation or openly show each other more affection and it doesn't lead to good things.
Doctor Who: The Kaleidoscope: Circuit Breaker
When memories lie, the truth can be fatal. In the aftermath of an improbable mission, the Fugitive Doctor and Martha realise that something is interfering with their minds. Something that doesn’t want to be found. Their investigation leads to a curious artefact in the British Museum: an apparently medieval toy known as the Kaleidoscope. But the object refuses to stay in one place, one time – or one identity. And when the Doctor is repeatedly mistaken for someone she’s never met, fragments of unfamiliar memories begin to surface. Across the Earth, a hidden pattern emerges; evidence of a secret that someone has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal. As ancient enemies close in and innocent lives are put at risk, the Doctor learns the hard way that some truths were buried for a reason… A key instalment of the Doctor Who transmedia event Circuit Breaker, this novel is written by the Fugitive Doctor herself, Jo Martin – and also features Martha Jones (as played by Freema Agyeman) together with the Unified Intelligence Taskforce, or UNIT.
Hey!! Do you think some of the glaze on Richie mostly seen on Reddit but also TikTok, insta, & a couple other platforms are bc of the writing itself and ofc Ebon’s amazing performance or do you think some of them over relate to him and some of that is rooted in the familial storytelling bear where a white male changes his life so drastically and finds purpose kind of situation. Not saying this to divide or anything but sometimes some of the glazing esp when they go on to talk about Syd is rather jarring and i can’t help but be irritated by it. And ofc Ebon ate down with this role so his character deserves all the love but sometimes im just sitting feeling like this 🤨 anyways… hope you’re doing well
Thanks for the ask @cleos-rightfoot! Hope you are having an amazing summer.
I think the glazing of Richie is because, compared to Sydcarmy, his character arc does not force the "incel, QAnon, 4chan, Snydercut motherf*ckers" to re-evaluate their own shortcomings. By focusing on Richie, they can ignore what the narrative is critiquing of fine dining, its elevation of white men at the expense of others, race, gender relations, the whole lot. All their biases and illusions about themselves are reaffirmed through Richie. Look at how loving Syd has meant Carmy becoming one of the most progressive heterosexual characters in modern TV: he realizes she is a better person than him, he acknowledges she has surpassed him in the profession he took greatest pride in, he hands over more and more control to her till she is running his business and her advice governs him even in his relations with other people. He admits she handles crises with more grace than he would and he is always apologizing to her and looking for her approval constantly. She has not even slept with him (the usual heteronormative bargain) yet he has signed over his entire inheritance to her. Carmy is ultimately going to live his life in service to Sydney, a Nigerian-African American immigrant woman. Carmy is terrified that his racist, dysfunctional family and his own chaos will drive Syd away and is constantly trying to improve himself for her. Claire barely registers on his consciousness because he is totally obsessed with Sydney. What might it mean for the Reddit bros to acknowledge a love like this which humbles a man, and requires him to change himself for a person that an increasingly fascist society does not treat as the ideal but who he now recognizes as his standard of perfection against whom even his dear departed brother cannot compare?
Now let's contrast that with Richie's relationships. He married his high school sweetheart, the blonde girl from the neighborhood, Tiff. When he failed to be the provider and show up for his daughter's birth due to goofing off with Mikey (arguably the real homoerotic love of his life which is fine by the Reddit bro crowd), Tiff divorced him and married a richer guy. After a brief stint as a tragic divorced dad (garnering all their brotastic sympathies and stoking their endless brotastic capacity for grievance), Richie managed to keep his job supervising black and brown workers. He failed upwards in fact. Despite his sexual harassment of Syd, he never really had to re-evaluate his sexist biases. He championed Claire as the "hot nerd" and never retracted that verdict to praise Syd's allure. He went through a short training under Asian bosses (Rene and Garrett) in the foremost establishment (run by a female chef) where, again despite his lousy attitude, he was hailed as their best and within a week emerged as a born-again convert to the cult of fine dining. Low effort and burnishing the self-image of white men as innate geniuses. He gets to be Syd's partner and is muscling in the very next morning wanting to know how the shares are to be divvied up. He countermands Syd's direct order about the reservations and faces no professional repercussions for it. Syd, in giving him a care package and fielding his texts, acts as a work wife and Jess is also stepping up to share that load. He is flying off to Japan to fulfill all the weeaboo fantasies (because you know Richie is absolutely going to leverage his reading of a few books and that one-week trip to present himself as a Japan expert). The Richie-Jess romance is utterly shallow in comparison to Sydcarmy; some flirting, some touching, no conflict, no need to change oneself, no angst. Now that Jess is his employee, the rightful hierarchy the Reddit bros want to maintain is reinstated. Sarah Ramos has some Fillipina ancestry but Wasian love interests don't puncture their white supremacist bubble the way Sydcarmy does.
So, in short, I think the glazing of Richie is because it means they don't have to hear what Sydcarmy (the main love story of the Bear) are critiquing IRL and the implications about white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy being the default system running our world.
i watched this video essay a while ago about frustrated men who resort to violence in movies. think falling down, taxi driver, fight club.
one thing the creator said has been stuck in my head ever since.
imagine a straight white guy who's grown up believing there's already a script written for him. work hard, get the job, get the wife, have kids, find your purpose. that's just how life is supposed to go.
and then it doesn't.
sometimes he genuinely tried. sometimes he only thinks he did. either way, the promise falls apart. and because we've spent decades watching stories like this, we're almost conditioned to meet that frustration with empathy first. before anything else, we want to understand him.
i'm not saying the bear is one of those stories (or... Yeh)
i'm saying we've all spent years watching them.
which is why it doesn't really surprise me that so many people treat richie's arc like it's the arc of the show. i love richie. genuinely. the show completely sold me on him. but his story is also the most immediately recognizable. it's the easiest one for audiences to latch onto because they've already seen versions of it a hundred times before.
then i make the mistake of opening reddit. that website needs to be launched back into the fucking sun!!!!
and suddenly syd has to earn every ounce of empathy. every mistake gets catalogued. every disagreement becomes proof she's impossible. meanwhile carmy can spend entire seasons hurting people and the first instinct is still to ask what happened to him. what gets lost is that syd, tina, marcus... they never moved through the world believing it owed them a neat little future. disappointment isn't some shocking betrayal for them. it's just part of life. but when they get frustrated, they're difficult. selfish. annoying. when richie, mikey or carmy fall apart, people are much quicker to go looking for the wound.
i don't think that's something the bear invented. i think it's something a lot of us have been taught, by years and years of movies, to recognize almost instinctively.
@nigocry, If you have a link to that video essay, please share it as I would like to watch it. I think you're pointing out something quite insightful that the Bear has done--smuggling in stories of characters from marginalized backgrounds who are never shown on screen amidst the usual white hero narrative arc. That's why there is this huge divide in the fandom. We are watching and wanting more of their stories whereas a lot of the Reddit bros are outraged that Claire is not the main love interest. Most American TV shows pick a side, majority white cast with a token character of color or two or vice versa and this show is not doing that. Even Breaking Bad centered the white male protagonists despite repeatedly conveying how despicably racist Walter White was and yet many viewers sympathized with him way too long as he massacred countless Hispanic characters; they only stopped sympathizing when his violence turned on the white characters.
As you rightly point out, since many of us are not centered in society or in TV shows, we have expanded our ability to empathize with characters who do not look like us. Our trained empathy means we can appreciate Richie's story and Syd's (and Tina's, Marcus's, Ebra's, etc) but the Reddit bros have never had to cultivate their own capacity for empathy towards people who don't look like them so they are failing to understand what the Bear is showing us.
The playlist is here (neuraverso) Just a heads-up, it's in Portuguese and doesn't have English subtitles, so YouTube's auto-generated captions might make some of it hard to follow.
Basically, this creator analyzes a lot of films, and this recurring theme of "frustrated men" is something that really stuck with me. She articulates it much better than I can. after reading so many posts on here about masculinity in the bear, I kept thinking about that playlist. It also made some of the s5 discourse click for me. People complaining that Carmy isn't the sole narrative center anymore, that he somehow "gave" the restaurant to Syd, or acting like the show betrayed itself by spending time on other characters instead of revolving almost entirely around one depressed white guy (even though I'd argue it still doesn't do that nearly as much as I'd like...). One thing I also find kind of funny is how many of the films in that playlist, especially Fight club, have become favorites among exactly the audience they're critiquing. The conversation somehow always circles back to identifying with the guy who's been wronged by the world. The critique itself gets flattened into another story about a man whose anger deserves to be understood.
And I think that's part of why Richie's arc lands so immediately for so many people. I love Richie. The show completely sold me on him. But his story is also one audiences have been trained to recognize for decades: a man who feels left behind, finds purpose again, and earns his place back in the world. When Richie changes, it's inspiring. When Carmy spirals, people instinctively ask what happened to him. When Mikey self-destructs, the conversation becomes about everything that led him there. Meanwhile, so many of the show's non-white characters are expected to be endlessly patient, endlessly competent, endlessly emotionally mature before they're afforded the same generosity. The second they're frustrated, guarded, stubborn or make a mistake, the conversation shifts from "what happened to them?" to "what's wrong with them?" It reminds me of that line from Racionais MC's Negro Drama: "That crazy one that can’t make a mistake." Some people get to be complicated. Some people get to fail spectacularly and still be read with compassion. others have to keep proving they're worthy of it in the first place
Also, if u're interested in this kind of discussion, there are a few books/texts I'd recommend looking into. They don't argue something as simplistic as "white people want white people to win" but they offer some really interesting ways of thinking about why audiences relate to certain protagonists the way they do
Richard Dyer's White is a big one. Murray Smith's Engaging characters is another, especially if you're interested in why we stay emotionally invested in morally flawed protagonists. Sara Ahmed's The Cultural Politics of Emotion is also worth checking out.
I've only encountered some of these through video essays and lectures so far, and I still need to read them properly myself. bt I think they're useful because they show this isn't some brand-new tumblr discourse or something people made up last week, these questions about race, identification, empathy and who gets the audience's grace have been part of film and media studies for decades, which makes the whole conversation even more interesting
Hey!! Do you think some of the glaze on Richie mostly seen on Reddit but also TikTok, insta, & a couple other platforms are bc of the writing itself and ofc Ebon’s amazing performance or do you think some of them over relate to him and some of that is rooted in the familial storytelling bear where a white male changes his life so drastically and finds purpose kind of situation. Not saying this to divide or anything but sometimes some of the glazing esp when they go on to talk about Syd is rather jarring and i can’t help but be irritated by it. And ofc Ebon ate down with this role so his character deserves all the love but sometimes im just sitting feeling like this 🤨 anyways… hope you’re doing well
Thanks for the ask @cleos-rightfoot! Hope you are having an amazing summer.
I think the glazing of Richie is because, compared to Sydcarmy, his character arc does not force the "incel, QAnon, 4chan, Snydercut motherf*ckers" to re-evaluate their own shortcomings. By focusing on Richie, they can ignore what the narrative is critiquing of fine dining, its elevation of white men at the expense of others, race, gender relations, the whole lot. All their biases and illusions about themselves are reaffirmed through Richie. Look at how loving Syd has meant Carmy becoming one of the most progressive heterosexual characters in modern TV: he realizes she is a better person than him, he acknowledges she has surpassed him in the profession he took greatest pride in, he hands over more and more control to her till she is running his business and her advice governs him even in his relations with other people. He admits she handles crises with more grace than he would and he is always apologizing to her and looking for her approval constantly. She has not even slept with him (the usual heteronormative bargain) yet he has signed over his entire inheritance to her. Carmy is ultimately going to live his life in service to Sydney, a Nigerian-African American immigrant woman. Carmy is terrified that his racist, dysfunctional family and his own chaos will drive Syd away and is constantly trying to improve himself for her. Claire barely registers on his consciousness because he is totally obsessed with Sydney. What might it mean for the Reddit bros to acknowledge a love like this which humbles a man, and requires him to change himself for a person that an increasingly fascist society does not treat as the ideal but who he now recognizes as his standard of perfection against whom even his dear departed brother cannot compare?
Now let's contrast that with Richie's relationships. He married his high school sweetheart, the blonde girl from the neighborhood, Tiff. When he failed to be the provider and show up for his daughter's birth due to goofing off with Mikey (arguably the real homoerotic love of his life which is fine by the Reddit bro crowd), Tiff divorced him and married a richer guy. After a brief stint as a tragic divorced dad (garnering all their brotastic sympathies and stoking their endless brotastic capacity for grievance), Richie managed to keep his job supervising black and brown workers. He failed upwards in fact. Despite his sexual harassment of Syd, he never really had to re-evaluate his sexist biases. He championed Claire as the "hot nerd" and never retracted that verdict to praise Syd's allure. He went through a short training under Asian bosses (Rene and Garrett) in the foremost establishment (run by a female chef) where, again despite his lousy attitude, he was hailed as their best and within a week emerged as a born-again convert to the cult of fine dining. Low effort and burnishing the self-image of white men as innate geniuses. He gets to be Syd's partner and is muscling in the very next morning wanting to know how the shares are to be divvied up. He countermands Syd's direct order about the reservations and faces no professional repercussions for it. Syd, in giving him a care package and fielding his texts, acts as a work wife and Jess is also stepping up to share that load. He is flying off to Japan to fulfill all the weeaboo fantasies (because you know Richie is absolutely going to leverage his reading of a few books and that one-week trip to present himself as a Japan expert). The Richie-Jess romance is utterly shallow in comparison to Sydcarmy; some flirting, some touching, no conflict, no need to change oneself, no angst. Now that Jess is his employee, the rightful hierarchy the Reddit bros want to maintain is reinstated. Sarah Ramos has some Fillipina ancestry but Wasian love interests don't puncture their white supremacist bubble the way Sydcarmy does.
So, in short, I think the glazing of Richie is because it means they don't have to hear what Sydcarmy (the main love story of the Bear) are critiquing IRL and the implications about white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy being the default system running our world.
i watched this video essay a while ago about frustrated men who resort to violence in movies. think falling down, taxi driver, fight club.
one thing the creator said has been stuck in my head ever since.
imagine a straight white guy who's grown up believing there's already a script written for him. work hard, get the job, get the wife, have kids, find your purpose. that's just how life is supposed to go.
and then it doesn't.
sometimes he genuinely tried. sometimes he only thinks he did. either way, the promise falls apart. and because we've spent decades watching stories like this, we're almost conditioned to meet that frustration with empathy first. before anything else, we want to understand him.
i'm not saying the bear is one of those stories (or... Yeh)
i'm saying we've all spent years watching them.
which is why it doesn't really surprise me that so many people treat richie's arc like it's the arc of the show. i love richie. genuinely. the show completely sold me on him. but his story is also the most immediately recognizable. it's the easiest one for audiences to latch onto because they've already seen versions of it a hundred times before.
then i make the mistake of opening reddit. that website needs to be launched back into the fucking sun!!!!
and suddenly syd has to earn every ounce of empathy. every mistake gets catalogued. every disagreement becomes proof she's impossible. meanwhile carmy can spend entire seasons hurting people and the first instinct is still to ask what happened to him. what gets lost is that syd, tina, marcus... they never moved through the world believing it owed them a neat little future. disappointment isn't some shocking betrayal for them. it's just part of life. but when they get frustrated, they're difficult. selfish. annoying. when richie, mikey or carmy fall apart, people are much quicker to go looking for the wound.
i don't think that's something the bear invented. i think it's something a lot of us have been taught, by years and years of movies, to recognize almost instinctively.
Season two episode three sundae
During Sydney's various visits to different restaurants, one of the restaurants talks pre-service has them subbing a lamb dish with a short rib dish im not joking they've been foreshadowing this since the beginning I caaaannnnttttt

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God bless Ebon
RICHIE AND SYDNEY HAVE COME A LONG WAY. THE BEAR
I guessed he liked and was intrigued by her from jump
But mostly was scared because she represented change he wasn't ready for
But oh
Look how far they've got to
After Richie just decided to let his guard down
Partnership
A brief compilation of tenmartha 🩺🏨
marcus is so fucking gorgeous oh my god

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The embrace was a perfect “final” Sydcarmy scene. But just thinking about what the rest of the day was like for them is SO buzzy. They had a happy little secret between themselves for a few hours. I know it was getting flirtier than ever in that kitchen.
On top of that, Richie planned on bringing a couple into the kitchen for a champagne toast to celebrate an engagement. Right in front of the two yearners sharing a fun big secret😏Damn just imagine the energy.
They must've shared so many soft looks and little half-smiles. And I bet every time they needed to talk to each other, they used that same quiet, gentle voice they had for almost all of season 5. They were in heaven. Nothing else could shake them anymore.
i'll be honest it gets kind of annoying when ppls immediate canned response to an m/f ship is "she deserves better" because over half the people who say that then proceed to hyperfocus on some yaoi with the man involved and never give the woman a second glance. forgive me but i think she deserves better than being girlbossed off screen and never mentioned again