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it's so unfair that the try guys learn from watcher's (non-)mistake, implement the same idea, punch down on their colleagues/friends, then get praised by fans bc "this is how you do it"

not to mention—and i love me some try guys content, and they make some really impactful stuff—their content is Nowhere Near the caliber of watcher content. i'm not gonna go on about that rn bc i'm sure it's a subjective thing but my god watche/r stuff is so clean compared to t/ry guys

AND IM GONNA SAY IT... i'm so tireddddddd of these big youtube channels incorporating like 20 white people in their cast hejdjdjwhw. that makes me sound like a white hater lmao but In My Asian Opinion when you have ensembles of mostly white youtube comedians it can feel veeeery one note. just a bunch of pals ragging each other on bc they have the same general bkgd and the same sense of humor. i know i'm generalizing. but you cannot tell me that you've watched those big youtube group videos where it's all white ppl vs white ppl with a few poc. and the vibes are simply different are they not??? or is that smthn only poc recognize? like white american voices are the norm in pop media and i dont really care anymore.

and yeah fans are gonna be more trusting of/graceful with the company with two white spearheads than with the company with two poc owners but more specifically with an asian guy who fans falsely paint as the sole descision-maker of the company.

ALSO how come when keith eats the entire menu at michelin star restaurants it's fun and cool but when steven enters a nice restaurant he's a greedy gold-loving millionaire.

like i know why but the reasons are so tired. it's exhausting.

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man, like. I don’t know how those guys are supposed to just keep going with their sillier shows and act like so many people watching their shit didn’t just very loudly and publicly announce that they haven’t liked anything since BFU, especially when they left buzzfeed to start watcher in the first place bc they wanted to make the shows they were actually interested in and excited about.

and the number of people who have decided to like, personally harass them and people adjacent to them like sara? the fact that people harangued her when it has nothing to do with her, and then mocked her when she tried to say something? someone literally went through her socials and talked about “she bought this $100 bag how dare she,” like. it’s literally none of their fucking business, that doesn’t come out of production money. I can’t imagine how shane and ryan feel thinking now anything the fans don’t like will splash back on their families and have people digging through any and everything available to justify that harassment. god forbid any of the guys have kids anytime soon, bc these people can’t be trusted not to want to harass them too. not to mention the number of people saying staff should be fired, in a recession, like are you fucking joking.

because they can’t watch their goofy ghost show or puppet show for free. like.

yeah, six dollars can be a lot of money when you’re not making a lot. but it also doesn’t justify treating people like they’re not human and worthy of dignity, just content machines for the good brain chemicals.

I understand people’s relationship with media has changed since both the adoption of social platforms and since we’re living in Interesting times. but now it seems impossible to ignore just how willing they are to ignore the humanity at the center of it as long as they keep getting their content fix.

anyway. I wish the boys the best of luck at the live show. I would just be refunding everyone at this point and taking a fucking break.

I'm sure, based on the last 6 years of consuming their content, that Watcher TV was not pitched as "easy money". I'm even more certain that they never thought in a million years they'd alienate and devastated their hard-earned fan base with the news.

All they needed to do was some fucking research. 5.99 a month is just too much for the vast majority of YouTube consumers to plump on something for so narrow in it's content. As high as the quality is, and as genuinely beloved as the Watcher boys are, it's absolutely fucking absurd to think that charging the same price as a service like fucking CrunchyRoll, is appropriate in any way.

If they'd have set the paywall lower. Like 1.99 a month, I think most people would be happy to support the endeavour, as long as they are financially able too. But 6 whole fucking dollars a month?! Also the Patreon has to go too. You cannot feasibly ask any audience to pay for two services that essentially do the same fucking thing.

It's not necessarily too late to change the price, apologise HARD, kill the Patreon, clarify what they intend to do with Watchers YouTube content, and do some fucking research!?

ok based. But don't think I'll ever forget this conversation shane: