anyways i really want to talk about ep 6 marie and just how sad her entire situation is. because i think everyone is getting parts of it but the whole situation is actually SO miserable and every character is having the worst time so i don’t even blame any of them for how it’s going (well i do a little)

disclaimer: all of the points im making are about how MARIE is perceiving the situation, not what actually is happening. ex. i don’t think jordan believes marie is a monster

lets recap the explicit moments we have of marie’s perspective throughout the season so far:

1. she wants nothing to do with being the chosen one. wants nothing to do with being powerful or important, she just wants to be herself. separate from all of the mess. (or: herself with jordan. just them. she wants what they have to be untouched by all the things she can’t control)

2. she feels she keeps making bad decisions and doesn’t know how to do right by the people she cares about, but she keeps trying anyways

3. she still hates herself. she IS suicidal. she has no regard for her own wellbeing. her priority is annabeth, and then jordan, and her friends.

so at this point: we have a marie who, despite having conviction in the fact that what happened to her parents wasn’t her fault, still hates herself for what happened and how she hurt annabeth, to the point where she’s said she’ll do ANYTHING to fix what is happening and make annabeth safe.

we have a marie who keeps desperately refuting any comparisons of herself to HOMELANDER, the man who she understands to be a total psychopath who tried to murder her, only to be met with guilty looks by the people she loves and cares about. people who she’s found the only semblance of family in since the accident with her parents. (it’s clear they’re all scared of what she can do. what she’ll inevitably do to them, because she’s just a ticking time bomb at this point)

at this point: everyone she loves is in danger, and it’s all because of their proximity to her. annabeth wants nothing to do with her, jordan is pulling away and seems almost scared of her, all of her other friends are too busy with their own problems. she feels completely alone.

what’s the best way to handle this situation?

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I'm back with more analysis' about JJPope and why it's better than anything either of them had with Kie.

Today I'm talking about JJ and how he speaks of and to them and why the difference in how he does it speaks VOLUMES.

JJ talking about Kie (S1): "Of course, I'm hitting on her. She's a super-hot, rich, hippie chick, slumming with us. Why? I can't figure it out either, but who cares, bro? I know that door's locked because I tried it. Have you?"

JJ talking about Pope(S2): "Ain't all that bad. Just look at the guy over there. He would do anything for us. That's a Pouge if I've ever seen one. Bone-deep. That's just one man's opinion, though."

THE DIFFERENCE.

JJ talking to/about Pope:

"For once in your life, trust someone else."

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"You're the golden boy."

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Topper: "Hey, I just wanna make sure everyone here is okay with ending up in federal prison."

JJ: "Uh, if it gets to that, yeah, I'll do it for Pope."

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"I'm here for you, Pope. Welcome to my world, okay?"

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JJ talking to/about Kie:

"And you--I mean, you're already rich as fuck anyway. Why would you bother?"

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"Okay. Not all of us can afford unlimited data plans, Kiara."

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"Hell of a job melting it down, Dr.Frankenstein."

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(I don't need to put anymore as all of JJ's quotes for Kie are from the first half of S1 lol.)

As you can see, JJ speaks highly of Pope and lowly of Kie. He sees being a pouge as a badge of honor and gave Pope the highest honor. He sees Pope as someone he can relate too and shares a deep connection too.

He doesn't see that with Kie.

And I hear Jiara stans saying "What about S3? He was so worried about her and went back to get her!"

And to that, I say, "Yeah...cuz it's JJ."

His number one trait as a character is his loyalty. It's his best trait as it shows how much he will do for his friends. But also his worst trait as he puts his friends over his own being and in the end it only hurts him.

JJ would have reacted the same if it was anyone else in that situation.

Like when John B was a wanted criminal, JJ did anything for him. (risking to get arrested himself, shooting cops, and being by his side when he was on the run)

Or when Sarah is dealing with Ward or Rafe, JJ is always watching over her. (running after a car that held a drugged Sarah unconscious in the back, jumping in a shipping crate to get her and the cross back, staying by her side, and keeping an eye on her when John B was found guilty in court.)

And even Cleo who just joined the crew, JJ makes sure to treat her like the rest of the pouges. (like when he praised her for convincing Pope's parents to let him go to South America)

And we all know that he would do the same if not more for Pope. (going to jail for him, almost getting arrested for him again, taking over an entire boat of men to get his cross plus Sarah, risking being seen with him at Midsummers when he was supposed to be undercover, taking a beating from his dad for him, fighting for him at the outdoor movie, being super protective about him anytime he was around Limbrey and Renfield, keeping the secret that Pope was the one who actually sunk the boat and lying to the others, bringing Pope to his cousin Ricky's house to save his life even tho Ricky was still pissed at him for stealing his ambulance.)

And many, MANY, more.

The way we are introduced to JJ who loves and protects Pope but pushes Kie aside

versus

The way they "built up" S3 JJ for a toxic relationship with Kie but as a result of that he has to push Pope aside.

The writers and creators gave us s1 JJ, that's how his character was made and supposed to be portrayed. S3 JJ was built off toxic fans who threatened their way into an unfortunate canon ship.

Toxic stans = Toxic ship.

You Jiara stans wonder why JJ felt out of character, or why the Jiara chemistry felt forced or fake. That's because it was.

You can't force chemistry.

All the OBX cast did chemistry reads to see which duos worked together as a couple and which didn't. But the one duo that did not do a chemistry read was JJ and Kie (Rudy and Madi)

why?

because the creators saw no need. as they weren't even thinking of getting those two characters together. JJ was supposed to end up with Cleo. That was one of the many reasons Cleo came back as a main character.

What they would do with Kie and Pope, I don't know and I don't care. But Any ending would have been better than canon Jiara.

Anywaysssss

JJ treats Pope like he's his partner

and

JJ treats Kie like she's his sister

But let's be honest...we all see that, don't we?

to contrast them, popecleo *in my opinion* gave us some of this even in just the first couple episodes with the crumbs they got, because you can tell both actors are willing to improvise and put some work into it and their chemistry is also great so they feel like real people in a relationship together. whereas jj and kie just kinda… go flat when they have scenes together? like there is absolutely nothing to them outside of what is scripted?