I often have a lot of sympathy for the Lame Stodgy Sensible Center-Left types, but - it is hard to maintain much of that sympathy when I see them posting sneering takes about how only an idiot could fail to support important ideas like (ahem) "teen curfew zones."
Are you seeing this opinion often?
Outside of elderly mall goers, that is.
Matt Yglesias in recent weeks, notably.
To be fair we have had a serious problem with organized-crime gangs of teenagers. (And sometimes preteens!)
This sounds like a shitpost, but as I understand it, DC started charging people under 16 very leniently (good!) but then various criminal organizations responded to incentives (predictable!) and started specifically recruiting 14-year-olds to do carjackings because they would basically never get in serious trouble for it.
I think that specific problem has abated somewhat, but it did require a certain amount of targeted enforcement in response. I haven't looked into details but I assume the same thing is going on with the teen curfew—there's a specific uptick in violence and vandalism that they're trying to get under control.
(I viscerally hate the idea of curfews. I also viscerally hate the idea of jail. The latter is definitely sometimes necessary.)
I am aware that DC has an actual current crime problem related to teenagers doing terrible shit. I am in favor of the city finding effective ways to deal with that problem, some of which might be uncomfortably harsh (at least in theory). "Making public spaces inaccessible to people solely on the basis of age" should be about as acceptable a solution as "making public spaces inaccessible to people solely on the basis of race."
One would think it would be harder to recruit teenagers into organized crime if they had more options of stuff to do.
i know we like to pretend around here that civilization doesn't require repression but let's be real for a second, crime is way more fun than overwatch or pickleball. if you let people get away with it they'll do it because it's fun
I'm not saying that balioc doesn't get that crime can be fun to some people, but it's always shocking to me when someone doesn't get it because like...
...it seems so obvious?
Not that I'm saying that getting into fights is fun, but did they never get into any fights as kids? Or maybe they have no intrusive thoughts whatsoever. Or they load up a Grand Theft Auto game and don't steal any cars? They don't look at a shop window and think that it would be thrilling to throw a brick through it??
And of course, throwing a brick through a shop window is pointless, or wiping out all the trees on a lot is pointless, or bulldozing a building without permission is pointless, and it's all over very quickly and then afterwards you're left with the mess, but.
I said to one of my exes some years ago that in an online mode of Grand Theft Auto, I could communicate with others to arrange to play games without any words, because we didn't have any words, and she said that she felt envious.
I don't know; it just seems like such a good explanation for the behavior. Working backwards, it just fits. Why would they menace people for no pay if they didn't enjoy it? I don't just mean it in words; how does someone not pick up on this?
It is the irresponsible exercise of power that feels thrilling. It is the responsible exercise of power that is a burden.
Just imagine a lack of shame or guilt, and there is one drive, but not the other.























