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"jason beat up a child" im gonna be honest here, aside from the fact that they were like 15 and 17 at the time, the child in question was also a superhero that gets beat up like every day but for some reason its only bad when the other child does it. child on child crime or wtva. see when two-face beats up this guy, its fair play, but when the teenager red hood beats up this kid, now its war. boo hoo tim get your ass up you have work to do
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I'm so tired of people pretending DC is “progressive” 😭😭😭
If they truly were, we'd have more characters of color having ongoings and queer characters being used outside of their corporate pride specials. We'd also have more writers and artists of color, more queer people working in comics, and more women led projects.
If DC is “progressive”, then why is Tom King still writing Wonder Woman? Why is Krypto getting his SECOND animated show before Wonder Woman even gets her first? Why did DC cancel a trans woman's work on Red Hood the DAY issue one came out? Why did they not market their Dakota Incident BHM special and let it leak one week earlier? Why did they unceremoniously kill off Connor Hawke in Absolute GA for shock value??
You know that Bruce was the first to victim blame Jason, not Tim, right? It's important to me that you know that
you can talk about the horrible sexualization of female heroes (specially teen ones) on comics and someone will be like "but batman gets drawn shirtless "
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unfortunately ive reached that level of annoying where an innocent bystander will insinuate tim or bruce is better than jason and ill slam my hands on the table (literally or metaphorically) and tell them thats bullshit and promptly get too frustrated to articulate exactly why thats bullshit
Known killer Red Hood yelling "yaaaaas!" And making literary references is peak characterisation
Lying Retcons about what Jason was like as Robin:
Jason HATED criminals and has NO empathy for them and beats the shit out of all of them and doesn’t think they’re human. He doesn’t believe they can change, even simple thieves, despite the fact he’s a former thief so this makes no sense. Batman will have to point that hypocrisy out to him because Jason’s stupid I guess.
Actual Post crisis Robin Jason comics:
Detective Comics #571
Barman Annual #11
(Noticeably, Bruce is the one who argues criminals can't change here. He does change his mind at the end of the issue though)
Detective Comics #581
(I actually don't know if any other batkid has ever expressed that they feel sorry for one of their parents killers? Bruce does it in some versions of the 'meets Joe Chill again' stories, so Jason might be the only batkid who has that specific thing in common with him)
Batman #415
This one was even by Starlin!
(It's kind of interesting to consider the early scarecrow one was from when he was 12 (Bruce's imagined gravestone for him in this story actually confirms his exact age in it! yes there's an imagined gravestone) whereas I'd put him at 15 here, which (completely accidentally) gives the impression his thinking grew to be a little more like Bruce's over the years, since his "but they're dangerous/we can't let them do this" echoes Bruce's response to him back then.)
But yeah there's such a significant pattern of him being a sympathetic and compassionate kid who DOES try to understand when you actually read the comics, it's almost laughable.
It's so obvious that Percy isn't Rick's favourite character, and it bothers him that his actual favourite characters don't have the hype that Percy has, which is why he'll probably never officially quit writing about Percy/referencing him while also going out of his way to humiliate and degrade him.
My babyboy is getting the Eren Jaegar treatment and I’m not having it. Eren, another one of my favs, is butchered to hell and I refuse for Percy to get that same treatment
The problem with writing off the concerns re: Dynamic Duo as "It's an elseworld" is that sure, yeah, it's an elseworld. And yet this kind of bullshit happens to Jason in vastly more elseworlds than it doesn't. NOT TO MENTION I will emphasize: the fact that this is a movie means it's going to his a vastly wider range of audiences than an elseworld in a comic would. To audiences who are watching it they are not going to see this as an elseworld, this is going to be their "canon" this is what the most amount of people are going to believe because the medium it's presented in is considered more popular and accessible for the most amount of people.
We see these things already get conflated: the uth movie's changes to the original comic, the ditf movie's changes and branching paths, the Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker movie with Joker Jr... even with non-comic fanon it gets conflate with canon because that's people's exposure to it. And this is going to be most people's exposure to Jason Todd/Red Hood is this... extensive work of revisionism of Jason's history while gifting Dick with an opportunity to once again prove himself a better person.
It's like... yall know shit doesn't exist in a vacuum, right?
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people do realize that jason todd was written to be unlikable while tim drake was written to be likable. LIKE THERE ARE REAL PEOPLE WITH BIASES BEHIND THESE CHARACTERS. it’s not just “well tim drake landed better with the fans”. HE WAS MADE TO BE A HIT WITH THE FANS. Jason Todd never stood a chance, can you imagine if he was written to be liked? If he was written by somebody who understood his character background and from the beginning hadn’t been written by someone who wanted his character dead.
I swear no matter how many people I block over it there's always another blog claiming that Jason was "manipulated into thinking his family doesn't love him" or it's submitted in those words to a new poll blog I haven't blocked yet.
I've said it once and I'll say it again Talia explicitly told him that he was loved and mourned. She DID NOT try to tell him that his family didn't love him. She WAS NOT trying to get Jason to kill Tim, she was explicitly stated to be trying to get Jason to NOT to kill Bruce. And The more questionable stuff she did at the very end of Lost Days was after being repeatedly tortured via murder & being put in the Lazarus Pit until she had no other allegiances except to her half sister who wanted her to turn against Batman.
And Jason Confronted Batman about why he didn't Joker ONE (1) time, he did not ask Batman to kill Joker that time and, afterwards, he made multiple attempts to kill Joker himself without trying to ask anyone else to do it (some of the ones in that link are not mainline canon but several of them are). So no, he's not "obsessed with trying to get Batman to kill Joker." Fuck, after UtH he actively avoided being around Bruce until he was Literally In Arkham and unable to escape Bruce meeting him face to face.
You know for all that a certain kind of fans love to claim that ppl keep giving Jason other batboys' traits, in a way it is kind of hilarious how DC seems obsessed with doing the opposite
They semi-cancelled Timothee Chalamet for simply saying he found opera and ballet boring, by the way.
How does Hollywood work these days?
Being a bit of a naive, foolish young man and (wrongfully) calling opera and ballet irrelevant?
“You must apologise immediately! No Oscar for you.”
Acknowledging you stole terrified teenage girls from their bedrooms?
“Eh, you get a pass.”
Kidnapping teenage girls seems kind of worse than being stupid and uncultured, in the grand scheme of things.
”Well, Tim is dating a Kardashian sister.”
Embarrassing as it is, this other man admitted to war crimes.
more windows should be stained glass. Just in general
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Dynamic Duo stealing Jason's origin story to prop up Dick and turn Jason into a villain
behind every gay person is an even gayer one
