You lot see a woman dating a camp or "effeminate" man and go "haha does she know she's a beard" as if bi men don't exist and don't have cause to subvert gender norms/have a complicated relationship with masculinity, regardless of who they're dating.

There’s also this implication that these women who date “effeminate” men can’t be genuinely attracted to them and are naive and oblivious towards their effeminacy. It a complete refusal to acknowledge that not only do gnc bi men exist, but women can be and are actually attracted to them. There doesn’t have to be settling or smoke screens in the relationship for it to work.

The "opposite" is also true! You see men dating "masculine" or butch women and people be like "lmao we know who wears the pants in that relationship" like Let women date "feminine" men and let men date "masculine" women. It's none of your business. Leave them alone. No one's lying to anyone.

Both of the points are so *chef kiss* perfecto. Thank you!