Angelic Discussions

Me, a trans man on the danger list for ovarian cancer and is going to get them removed in the distant or near future:

And for once they’re not marked “for crossdressers” too, they actually under “transgender”, so that’s (depressingly) unusual.

I’m mostly posting this because I’ve seen a lot of younger people recently in particular saying they never knew what gaffs were… a lot of people find them WAY MORE comfortable and convenient than tucking, so I would recommend looking into them if you’ve never done so before!

Hey dude ya a lot of people in the community here probably feel ya hard.

I’m not sure if this is the right thing to say, but sometimes it’s for the better, ya know? If you’re not able to find the people you remember they might be somewhere else that’s not here, and I don’t think they’d want you twiddling your thumbs here waiting for them. And talking to people you just slightly remember can also be pretty damn awkward.

And not everyone here’s that great, yaknow? There are a lot of people who may take advantage of ya pretending to remember and stuff. My recommendation is just… go out and talk to others, fuck if you remember them or not. Common threads can be good convo starters, but overall, putting work into it builds friendships and relationships! You don’t need to remember them to be their friend and that could help with the loneliness, as well as building up a good system you can trust. And who knows, if you didn’t know them well as an angel the friendship may just translate over too :) some of my closest friendships in the community have been with people I didn’t know before. I have one friend I remember, and we’re close, but we’re close for stuff besides angel, get it? Go out and stretch your wings (haha).

I guess that makes sense. I’m just shy and nervous and get overwhelmed when people ask me for memories because I don’t know how to explain it when so much happened. And I want someone to talk to that I relate to as far as stuff in my past life, but I’m not sure how to do that without people being able to remember me.

I haven’t talked to many non-Abrahamic angels, and it sounds like from what I’ve heard the situation here isn’t exactly normal, even if bad experiences with deities seems to be somewhat common. Sounds like your place had some shit going on, and looking at here, it sounds plausible enough

as for the lucifer bit, some angelkin see lucifer as a figurehead rather than the true leader, while others believe there were multiple leaders, but lucifer was the most notable of them. it depends on the personal interpretation, i don’t have a solid opinion on it but every take is interesting

First off, welcome it’s always nice to meet someone new. Things you can do include:

Write down your memories as you get them, you’ll be glad that you can come back and look at them again when you need to.

Get involved with the community! It helps to settle any anxieties you might have and with the right people it can help unlock memories. 

Always be critical of your memories and the memories of others, your mind can create things if it believes it should. (Not that I am suggesting your memories are fake. It is simply important to remember than human brains can play tricks on us.)

Also check out @angel–finder and @helpline-666 they both have resources that might help you. And you can ask the helpline any questions. 

Just stay relaxed and if you’re comfortable reach out to others. It takes a minute to settle into all this, I remember. Once you are there’s a lovely group chat for angels and demons that I would recommend joining called hell’s network. (But definitely give yourself a minute first.)

Hey there, I’m Cipher! I’m a fallen angel who’s been mostly lurking on forums and aesthetic blogging on tumblr for a few years now, and one thing I noticed is that while the therian and general otherkin sides of the alterhuman community have a lot going for them in terms of advice blogs and a wealth of solid resources, the angel/demon side is a bit lacking in that respect.

So I’ve set this blog up so you can ask about:

general questions about alterhuman things

specific advice/questions for angels, fallen angels, and demons

anything else relevant

The one thing this blog is not for is divination, moodboards, or canon calls. There’s plenty of those blogs already!

I’m also trying to put together a resources page of primary and secondary theological theory/sources for angels and demons, to make things a little easier for people trying to research. So if you know of something that can contribute, let me know and I’ll check it out!

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To me, wings are more of an astral thing. Like, I’m aware of their presence and appearance in a non-physical way, if that makes any sense. I’m sure others may have varying experiences, but that’s my take on it.

On occasion, I’ll have those weird moments where it’s like I’m hyper aware of it? Like, you can almost feel and/or hear them in a physical, but it’s still not a totally physical thing for me. Again, your experience may vary.

Others feel free to chime in! What’s your relationship and experience with wings?

So, for clarity’s sake, we’ve discussed fallen vs incarnated a bit here: https://manywings.tumblr.com/post/158279733099/what-is-the-difference-between-fallen-and

My opinion is that there are a lot of reasons someone could be fallen. The most commonly stated reason seems to be that they were cast out, usually as a punishment. Others mention that they chose to fall. It depends on your own interpretation of what it means to be fallen, you know? Some view it as a state of grace, others view it as more of an alignment kind of thing.

As always, others feel free to chime in!

Note: I think the whole fallen vs non fallen debate is pretty Abrahamic angel-centric, which is fine, but things may work differently for those who are non-Abrahamic.

answering the last part first: suicide’s never a good option. there are people that care about you, even if you don’t fully see it. to touch on the spiritual side of the question, since that’s what i’m guessing you were aiming at there rather than suicide ideation: if you follow general christian beliefs, suicide is generally considered a sin, which removes your chance at going to heaven. if you believe in reincarnation, there’s no guarantee that you’re going to end up where you want.

as i’m not of an abrahamic faith, i can’t really comment on the “you go to heaven or hell when you die” thing, because it’s not part of my beliefs. i believe that both places exist, but i don’t really buy into the “your soul spends forever in paradise or damnation” thing.

i believe in reincarnation, but i’m not really sure it’s possible to “direct” where you end up. the main possibility for anyone is moving on to another life, tho it’s also possible to end up remaining unincarnated for a time. my beliefs also incorporate nonlinear time and multiple iterations of reality, so there’s a fair shake that i’m still the metatron despite being incarnated here, they’re just at different points on my personal timeline. time is weird. but it means that if i returned to heaven now, there’d be two metatrons. i doubt i’ll ever end up returning to heaven, but i guess there’s a vague chance?

So, for clarity’s sake, we’ve discussed fallen vs incarnated a bit here: https://manywings.tumblr.com/post/158279733099/what-is-the-difference-between-fallen-and

My opinion is that there are a lot of reasons someone could be fallen. The most commonly stated reason seems to be that they were cast out, usually as a punishment. Others mention that they chose to fall. It depends on your own interpretation of what it means to be fallen, you know? Some view it as a state of grace, others view it as more of an alignment kind of thing.

As always, others feel free to chime in!

Note: I think the whole fallen vs non fallen debate is pretty Abrahamic angel-centric, which is fine, but things may work differently for those who are non-Abrahamic.

as a question for anyone who remembers a literal fall, out of genuine curiosity and also to get more data on this in general: where did you fall to, if you remember?