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Exploring Tamamo's JP lines in Extra (Prologue)
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I've been playing through the original Fate/Extra in Japanese with Tamamo, simply because I was curious to check all of her lines and how they compare with the official English localization. The game's script is massive, so I'll focus mainly on Tamamo dialogue to keep the scope under control.
I already did something similar for Extella. But while Extella had many deep translation issues, the localization for Extra is perfectly fine most of the time. But I still want to contrast it against the original anyway, out of curiosity, and because many jokes and details are necessarily lost in translation. And there ARE actual mistranslations here and there.
My retranslations will not be "better" than the official localization (and many times will be more stiff). Instead, my goal here is to try to explain the intent behind the original text, even if that means providing a more literal translation. Expect a mini wall of text after each line.
Related posts
In the past, I've written more in-depth posts for some of the terminology Tamamo often uses, like ikemen tamashii, ryousai, or goshujinsama. I'll explain these terms very briefly as they come up here, but if you're curious to know more about any of them, here's some links:
Ikemen tamashii ("handsome soul"):
https://www.tumblr.com/sunlitwateryheavens/806662240829849600/aaaa
Ryousai ("good wife"):
https://www.tumblr.com/sunlitwateryheavens/808469716245102592/tamamos-good-wife-shtick-has-to-do-with
Goshujinsama ("Master" / "Husband"):
https://www.tumblr.com/sunlitwateryheavens/813636020150091777/what-does-tamamos-goshujinsama-mean
Servant choices
Okay. So we haven't even begun the game proper and I'm already complaining. Here's the Servant choice options:
剣を携えた男装の少女 赤い外装に身を包んだ武人 妖艶な半獣の女性
Official localization:
A woman who wields a sword boldly. A stoic warrior clothed in red robes. A magical fox girl.
But more literally:
A girl dressed as a man that carries a sword. A warrior clad in red armor. A bewitching demi-beast woman.
For Saber, they use 男装 (dansou), which refers to a girl dressing like a boy or using male attire.
Archer is mostly fine.
Caster is described as 妖艶な (youenna), which means bewitching/alluring/seductive, with a vibe of mysterious or even dangerous beauty. She's also described as 半獣 (hanjuu), which is the standard fantasy term for a half-human half-beast.
The funniest thing to me is that in JP, Saber gets called a 少女 (shoujo), a term for a young girl usually 7-17, while Caster gets called a 女性 (josei), a term for an adult woman. And somehow, in the localization they mix those up, and call Saber a woman and Caster a girl.
Hakuno Kishinami
The protagonist had no official name when the game released, but "Hakuno Kishinami" was picked later on for the manga and Drama CD. By the time of CCC, it would be the default name for both genders.
In Japanese, "kimi no na hakushi" (君の名白紙) would mean "Your name (is) a blank paper" or "Your name (is) a blank slate". Although it's kind of broken Japanese. Anyway, an anagram of that would be kishinami hakuno, which is why it was picked.
Both Kishinami and Hakuno are real Japanese names, but looking through Wikipedia, they seem very rare. Kishinami (岸波) is written with the kanji for shore (岸) and wave (波), so "shore wave". Given all the sea imagery in the Moon Cell, that's quite appropriate. And Hakuno (白野) uses the kanji for white/pure/blank (白) and field (野), so "white field" or "blank field". This one's self-explanatory too, given Hakuno's apparent amnesia in the game.
Their full name is normally written in Japanese either in hiragana or using kanji. The default nickname for male Hakuno is kishinami written in katakana (キシナミ), which gives it a bit of a "cool" and "sci-fi" vibe compared to the usual hiragana writing. And the default nickname for female Hakuno is hakunon in hiragana (はくのん), where -n is a common Japanese suffix to soften a name and make it sound cuter.
So, the male nickname is based on the family name and uses katakana, which makes it seem more formal, serious, and even a bit sci-fi. While the female nickname is based on the given name and uses hiragana, which seems a bit warmer, and more carefree.
Have you ever thought it weird that in English the female Hakuno has a nickname (Hakunon) but the male apparently doesn't? It turns out he does have a nickname, but it's just his surname written with a different syllabary, so that's lost in translation.
(They also have an even older nickname "Zabi/Xavier", which predates all that, but I'll talk about this one when we get to it in week 3.)
Caster's first appearance
The first line she says, Tamamo's literal first words in any media, are:
"その魂、ちょお~~~っと待った!暫く、暫くぅ!" "Hey, you soul-type person over there, wait juuuuuuust a second! Really, just one second!"
She doesn't really say "soul-type person". She literally refers to "that soul" (その魂). She often talks about souls. For instance, just four lines later:
"だってこのイケメン魂、きっと素敵な人ですから!ちょっと私に下さいな♪" "I mean, I'm sure this absolutely charming soul is a wonderful person! Please, can I have it?"
This is her first time talking about an ikemen soul, which usually gets localized as "handsome soul" or similar. This is a very casual expression she uses a lot, either said in full as ikemen tamashii (イケメン魂) or shortened to a cute ike-tama (イケ魂). I think this is actually the only time in Extra where she uses this term, but starting in CCC, this becomes a Tamamo-ism she uses a lot. In fact, this is arguably THE Tamamo-ism.
This is actually a surprisingly deep and complex expression that I think reveals a lot about the character. I already analyzed this in far more depth (across multiple games) in one of the links above, but the short of it: It refers to a person that is good-natured and considerate.
謂われはなくとも即参上、 軒轅陵墓から、 良妻狐のデリバリーにやってきました!あ、なんかドン引きしてません? えーと、貴方が私のご主人様…… でいいんですよね? Even if you weren't exactly clear why you need one, I've brought you a vulpine wife from the imperial tomb! Ah, you seem a little… apprehensive. Um… you are my Master… Right?
I'm going to spend a little more time than usual on these two lines, because they're a great example of how she talks for most of the game. First, a retranslation:
Reason or not, I humbly arrived at once! Coming straight from the Tomb of the Yellow Emperor, your delivery for one good-wife fox has arrived! Ah, are you like totally put off right now? Um, you're my Master (Husband)… right?
So, so much to unpack.
A running joke with Caster is that she will intermix extremely formal language with the most casual slang, in the same sentence, at random. That first line is an absolute roller-coaster. It starts off relatively normal, and then she drops a sanjou (参上), an extremely humble expression meaning something like "humbly visiting". She then mentions the Tomb of the Yellow Emperor, which changes the register towards the esoteric and mystical. She then talks about a "good-wife fox", which immediately shatters the mystical vibe, making her sound flirty if still formal. And then she slams the door shut on all that dignity by calling herself a "delivery" in Engrish, as if she were a parcel just arriving at your doorstep.
That's ONE sentence. This kind of absolute linguistic whiplash is extremely common with her, and is one of the core reasons that make her so hard to translate. Neither the official localization nor my own retranslations can possibly make her justice. I will not bother to point out every single time this is lost in translation (unless it's particularly funny or something), but this is just how she speaks broadly. Overall, she often sounds dramatic, slightly ridiculous, and all-around fun.
Also, in the next line she uses the very casual donbiki (ドン引き) for asking Hakuno if they're "weirded out" or "put off". The "apprehensive" in the localization makes her sound a little too serious.
This is the first time she calls herself a ryousai (良妻), a "good wife". She uses this term all the time. The main thing to point out is that this isn't merely "adjective good + noun wife", but rather refers to a specific Confucian archetype. In English, this is actually closer to "virtuous wife" or "exemplary wife". I also explored this in one of the links above.
This is also the first time she refers to Hakuno as goshujinsama (ご主人様), a play on words that can mean both Master and Husband. She uses this regardless of Haku's gender. Basically, from her perspective she's asking "Um, you're my Husband… right?", but Hakuno is interpreting it as "Master" instead. Hence the shenanigans that follow when Hakuno says yes, unaware of what they're agreeing to.
Lastly, she mentions the "Tomb of Ken'en" (軒轅陵墓), which would be the Yellow Emperor. This might honestly deserve its own post, but the short of it is: this is neither standard Japanese nor Chinese. Instead of calling it "Tomb/Mausoleum of the Yellow Emperor", she uses the Emperor's given name. But not his given name in standard Chinese or Japanese. She calls him "Ken'en", which would be the Japanese on-yomi (Sino-Japanese) reading. It just feels extremely bizarre and I don’t know what to make of this.
In any case, the Yellow Emperor was a wise and virtuous Emperor of China who was later seen as a god. (To be clear, this guy has no relation to Daji or other foxes.) I'm pretty sure this Tomb is mentioned too in CCC and/or Extella? This is the first hint she drops about her pan-Asiatic roots.
Anyway. If you're cruel enough to say you're not her Master:
ちょっ、ひど! っていうか空気読んでください! Hey, that's just horrible and mean! You really need to get a clue!
That "You really need to get a clue!" is closer to "Please read the room!". You've done something terribly wrong if Caster of all people asks you to read the room.
ここで私と契約しないと デッドエンドですよ? 人生負け組みで終わっていいんですかぁ!? If you don't make a contract with me right now, you're as good as dead. Are you okay with going out a loser?!
The first part is actually: "If you don't make a contract with me right now, isn't this a DEAD END?". That's the video game term. She uses lots of gamey and internet terms.
And that "loser" is jinsei makegumi (人生負け組み), which is harsh slang for people that have "lost at the game of life". Kind of like calling someone a "failure at life".
If you instead say that, yes, you're her Master, she responds more positively.
She has two common ways to refer to Hakuno. One is to just call them goshujinsama (ご主人様). But another is what she does above, where the text shows that same kanji "ご主人様", but she reads it as Master (マスター), using furigana (the small blue text). Very, very rarely, she will just plainly call Hakuno "Master" (マスター). And all three of these scenarios get localized to English the same way: as "Master" (or very occasionally "my Lord").
As far as I can tell, there's no significant difference between her using one or another. Which one she uses in any scene seems perfectly random.
何を隠そうこのタ―――いえ、このワタクシ、ご主人様みたいな人のサーヴァントになりたいってずっと思っていたのです! To be honest, I, the mighty Ta- I mean, I hoped that I could be a Servant to someone like you!
It's not too uncommon in Japanese media to have a character talk about themselves in third person (Jojo's "Kono Dio Da" comes to mind). Here, Caster almost says kono Tamamo ("this Tamamo"), but stops after the "Ta". The localization rewrites it a little to keep the joke.
……まあ、ちょっと性能はピーキーなんで、ご主人様[マスター]的には不満かもしれませんけど…… せいいっぱい、頑張りますから! …Oh, my abilities might be a tad limited so you might not be happy with me, Master, but… I'll try my best!
Here she uses another term she likes to throw around: piikii (ピーキー), coming from Engrish "peaky". This is another gamey term for a character or build that is good only in certain matchups, or has a high skill ceiling (so that it "peaks" in certain circumstances). There's no straight English equivalent, but it could be something like situational, or high-maintenance, or for experts. In her case, it could even be "glass cannon". Out of the three partner Servants, Caster is definitely the most piikii one, the trickiest to use.
Index - Exploring Tamamo's JP lines in Extra
This is a series of posts where I play through the original Fate/Extra in Japanese, with Tamamo, and point out any localization details that I find interesting. For more details, please check the "Prologue" post.
Most of these will be very long. This is a lot of text to go through.
(I will be adding more links as I progress.)
Prologue:
https://www.tumblr.com/sunlitwateryheavens/821244051066126336/exploring-tamamos-jp-lines-in-extra-prologue
Week 1: https://www.tumblr.com/sunlitwateryheavens/821244070856900608/exploring-tamamos-jp-lines-in-extra-week-1
Week 2: {Pending}
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Week 7 + Endgame: {Pending}
Exploring Tamamo's JP lines in Extra (Week 1)
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Legend: JP: Original Japanese text. EN: Official English localization. RE: My attempt at a (usually more literal) translation.
This week: Wakame, Z-Regulations, weird ship metaphors, and far too many hints about Caster's identity.
(Btw, yes, of course I'm running two parallel playthroughs with both Hakus and for the later Rin/Rani split. Wow, imagine suffering through getting to enjoy this enthralling gameplay twice. Thank goodness I have cheats on I'm a master strategist.)
W1D1 Waking up in the infirmary
Talking about the Holy Grail, Hakuno shows us that they're a history/mythology nerd for the first time by randomly knowing stuff about the Arthurian cycle. To which Caster responds:
JP: さすがはご主人様です。で、その聖杯を取り合うために魔術師[ウィザード]たちが戦うのが聖杯戦争なんです。 EN: Exactly! And the battle where Wizards fight for the Holy Grail is called the Holy Grail War.
That "Exactly!" is sasuga (さすが), an expression of praise and admiration meaning something like "as expected". It's very slightly sycophantic. I mention this because Casko uses this A LOT towards her Master, using variations of "sasuga goshujinsama!", meaning something like "As expected of my Master!" or "That's my Master for you!".
As a side note, there's a lore distinction between a Magus and a Wizard. A Magus is someone that practices magecraft, using mana (the world's magical energy). But in the Extraverse, the world's mana dried up because of reasons, so humans instead turned towards the Moon Cell, which requires them to digitalize their souls and whatnot. Someone capable of digitalizing their soul like this is a Wizard (or Spiritron Hacker).
In Japanese, Magus is the translation for majutsushi (魔術師), which is a general term for a magician or conjurer. But Wizard is literally Wizard (ウィザード) as an English loan word. And the wordplay here is that, specially in Japan, the term "Wizard" evokes computer wizards, as in the setup assistant software. So it's a term that relates both to magic and technology. I think this association of Wizard with computer wizard software is less obvious in English.
Moving on. I don't want to copy every single line here, but for example when she's asking if you know about Servants, she uses dewa dewa (ではでは), which is a casual and playful "well then" or "so", used to change the topic.
Later, Hakuno has this thought:
JP: キャスター……性格は妙にフレンドリー、だが、サーヴァントとしての実力は間違いない。 EN: Caster… She seems unusually outgoing, but there's no denying her abilities as a Servant.
Specifically, Hakuno calls her myouni friendly (妙にフレンドリー), "oddly friendly".
Mikon
Most scenes in this game are unvoiced. Instead, characters used canned voicelines for most dialogue. One of Caster's canned lines, that she first uses in the infirmary scene above, is "Mikon!". Surprisingly, Caster never actually explicitly says "mikon" in text at any point in the game, even though this would become something like a catchphrase in later entries.
Matrix: Territory Creation
I'll be mentioning stuff about Caster's Matrix as it unlocks, if I find anything worth commenting on.
An infamous one is that her skill description for Territory Creation casually spoils her True Name in the official English localization. And this entry is unlocked from the moment she joins!
This doesn't happen in the original Japanese. If you're curious why the translators screwed up this badly… Well, in Japanese, it's very common to omit subjects if they can be inferred from context, as they are not grammatically necessary. But subjects ARE necessary in English.
The issue is that this line has no subject in Japanese, but the translators HAD TO add a subject to the sentence, to make it grammatical. And since this is a Matrix entry, it probably appears somewhere random in the script, along with other Matrix entries, and it's not clear which ones unlock in which order. Other entries do spell out her name even in Japanese (because they're unlocked after she reveals her name), so someone only checking the script might not know what entries are unlocked before or after her name is revealed.
W1D1 Caster threatens Rin
On the rooftop, Rin roasts Hakuno for looking like a bland NPC and not being a threat. Which has Caster say:
JP: ご主人様[マスター]を前にして、何とも身の程知らずな女ですねー。シメちゃいます? EN: This woman doesn't understand that she's nothing compared to you. Are you letting her say that? RE: To speak like that in my Master's presence… this woman doesn't know her place, does she? Shall I beat her up?
In particular, that shimechaimasu (シメちゃいます) at the end… The verb she uses is a colloquial, almost yakuza-style way to say "teach a lesson" or "discipline" or straight out "beat up". This is the first time in the game she gives us a peek at her darker side, and the English version sort of misses on this.
W1D1 Big hint about her identity in My Room
There's this seemingly innocuous line:
JP: 如何です?女御殿とまではいきませんが、それなりに雰囲気は出てますよね? EN: So, what do you think? It's not exactly the Imperial Palace, but it does have a regal air, does it not?
What they translated as "Imperial Palace" is nyogoten (女御殿), which would be the court where the nyogo (女御) reside. A nyogo, usually translated as "court lady", was a high-ranking female official who would attend the Emperor directly. That's what Tamamo-no-Mae was in life! She's elsewhere referred to as a nyogo or the similar term nyokan. This is a massive hint to her identity, and we're just on day 1.
W1D1 Hakken
I want to talk about an expression Caster uses a lot. When spotting the first enemy, she says:
JP: 雑魚です、雑魚はっけんでーん! EN: Heads up! There's a weak little enemy coming at us! RE: Small fry! Small fry disco~vered!
She uses hakken (はっけん), which means "discovery" or "finding". She will say this a lot when spotting an item or enemy. I think this is common gaming language. Like, the equivalent of opening a chest in an RPG and getting a text box with "Found X!". It sounds very gamey.
This could be translated as anything like:
X, discovered! X, located! Found X! Discovery: X!
She says this a lot. For example, she will say this when first spotting Shinji in the Arena ("wakame hakken!"), and later when finding a treasure box. She proceeds to use it many times through the game, specially in the Arena.
Arena: Good work today
I'll mention any significant Arena dialogue roughly as it's unlocked (or as I find it).
JP: お疲れさまでした。 EN: Good work today.
She can say this when leaving the Arena. It does mean "good job", but as in "thank you for your hard work".
Arena: Level up
JP: レベルアップなんて…もう、ご主人様のイケメン! EN: Another level up…?! Master, you're just so damn cool!
Level up dialogue. She doesn't say "cool" but rather "ikemen" (イケメン). So it's kind of like "Oh, honestly, Master, you're such a hunk!". It's the same ikemen as in ikemen-tamashi or ike-tama ("handsome soul"). So, yeah, I guess "so damn cool" could work just fine here. She's gushing, basically.
Arena: Obtaining item
JP: ちゃりーん☆ EN: *Treasure… GET!* RE: Cha-ching☆
In JP, she says an onomatopoeia for the sound of coins, like a "cha-ching!".
W1D1 End of first day
JP: ご主人様がいれば私は無敵ですから、何も心配しないで大丈夫。立ちふさがる奴はブッチギリで全殺しです! EN: I'm invincible when my Master is threatened, so don't worry! Anyone in our way will get cut down! RE: I'm invincible if my Master is by my side, so don't worry about a thing! Anyone that stands in our way will be absolutely obliterated!
This is one of those lines that's difficult to get right, because she combines colloquial slang, polite speech, affectionate speech, and nearly yakuza-style threats (that 全殺し "absolute murder" is very heavy).
W1D2 On the topic of wisdom
In the boring English version, when you unlock new Matrix info you see a flashing "NEW INFO". But in the cultured Japanese version, you get…
☆ ☆ ☆ wiseup ☆ ☆ ☆
Now we're talking.
W1D2 Little guppy
Context: Shinji insults us, as a Shinji is wont to do, which has Caster say:
JP: マスター! 早く追いかけましょう!あんな海産物、私が懲らしめてやりますから!! EN: Master, hurry up and go after him! I'll pound that little guppy into chum!
She calls him a kaisanbutsu (海産物), which is marine products. The joke here is that many people call Shinji "wakame", a species of edible seaweed, because his hair kinda looks like one.
W1D2 Cheap cologne and desperation
When you enter the Arena:
JP: ――くんくん。あれ? 何だか海産物っぽい匂いがしますね…… これは、あのワカメ男に違いありません! EN: *Sniff* Hmm? It smells like cheap cologne and desperation… It must be that smarmy little punk!
I sometimes love the English localization. In Japanese, she just calls him kaisanbutsu again, as well as outright calling him wakame (ワカメ) for the first time. But those jokes wouldn't make sense if translated, so we got this.
She proceeds to call him wakame and kaisanbutsu for the rest of the game, which gets translated to English as anything from jerk to punk to sea slug.
W1D2 Outta here
If you decide to immediately leave the Arena right after entering, Caster warns you:
JP: ご主人様[マスター]! いま帰るのは危険です。 帰還の時に生じる隙を突かれるとヤバイです。 とにかく、敵を何とかしましょう。 EN: My Lord! Do not put yourself in peril! If they choose to attack us, our fate will be sealed. For now, let's leave them be. RE: Master! It's dangerous to head back right now. If they exploit the opening created when we return, we're screwed. For now, let's deal with the enemy first.
The localization makes her sound unusually formal ("My Lord"?), and has her suggest to "leave them be", which is the opposite of what she's advising.
Arena: Rare item
JP: レアアイテム、ゲットです ❤ EN: Rare item… GET! ❤
That's a literal translation. She uses beautiful Engrish for Rare Item (rea aitemu) and GET (getto). That GET is obviously JP gaming lingo. She uses it a lot too.
W1D3 Actual lore mistranslation
Our first one! I'm not paying much attention to random NPC dialogue, but this one said something that stood out to me. It's a girl in the corridor, just outside of class 2-A.
JP: 対戦者とちょっと話をしたんだけど、サーヴァントはマスターに縁のある英霊が選ばれるみたいね。 EN: I talked with another competitor, and it seems like Masters choose Servants they feel something for.
If I'm painfully literal, she's actually saying: "As for Servants, Heroic Spirits who have a connection to the Master are the ones chosen." She uses en (縁), which means connection or bond, but as in fated or destined. So she's saying something closer to:
RE: I talked with another competitor, and it seems like Servants are chosen from Heroic Spirits who share some kind of bond with their Masters.
The original makes it sound like the Master is the one choosing, or like it's unilateral, and that "feel something for" doesn't capture the "fated bond" vibe.
W1D3 Little witch
After Shinji accidentally reveals info about his Servant in front of Rin, she says something under her breath, which has Caster react on our side:
Rin: ……やれやれ、緊張感に欠けるマスターが多いわね。 Caster: 「多い」と言うのが他に誰を指しているのか、是非とも問いただしたい所ですが……確かにワカメは情報の価値を理解してないですね。 Rin: *Sigh* It seems that there are a great many Masters who don't understand the stakes involved. [EN] Caster: I hate that little witch. But she's right about that punk not knowing how vital information is. [RE] Caster: I would very much like to ask her who else she's referring to when she says "a great many", but she's right that Wakame doesn't understand the value of information.
In the JP version, Caster is reacting with offense to Rin's words about there being "a great many Masters who don't understand the stakes involved". The EN version makes it seem like she's being hostile out of the blue.
Caster then says that you can count on her nose and ears to point you in the right direction. After you (are forced to) agree, she says:
JP: キャー! 私、感激です!ではでは、二人の愛の勝利のために、敵の情報、ガンガン調べましょう。 EN: *Squeal* I'm so happy! For love and great justice, let's get a ton of information on our foe!
Rather than "for love and great justice", which sounds like a meme, she's saying "for our love's victory". She's emphasizing the two-people aspect (二人). This is hard to translate into English without making it sound forced, but this line has a bit of an "us vs the world" vibe.
W1D3 My Room: Fashion victim
JP: 初陣は誰しも実力を発揮できぬもの。 何回ポカをしてもご愛敬というヤツです。 EN: Don't worry about your mistakes; it was your first time after all. You still have my love and respect! RE: In one's first campaign, no one is able to demonstrate their full ability. No matter how many blunders you make, let's just say they're part of your charm.
It's surprisingly NOT innuendo, since uijin (初陣) refers to one's first battle or first campaign, usually in a military context.
JP: んー、ビギナーズアンラック、みたいな? ま、相手はあのエセイケメンですし? まずは私に任せちゃってください。 EN: It was just beginner's…un-luck…? Our next foe is that fashion victim, right? Don't worry, I can take him!
This one's mostly fine, but she doesn't call him fashion victim, but rather "ikemen wannabe" (エセイケメン). Recall, an ikemen is a man that is handsome both on the outside (pretty-boy looks) and in the inside (gentle and understanding personality). Shinji's got the pretty-boy looks, maybe, but he's only a half-ikemen at best. (Contrast with Casko calling Hakuno an "ikemen soul", as in, an ikemen on the inside).
W1D4 Tortoise and the hare
This is a somewhat obscure line. To see it, you have to avoid going to the library and head straight for the Arena. Caster will stop you, recommending that you go check the library to learn more about your enemy. Then, if you try to enter the Arena AGAIN a second time, she says:
JP: ご主人様…たまには急がばリターン、書物で知識を深めるのも大切ですよ。ふふふ、わたしもいい事言いますね~。 EN: Master, remember the story about the tortoise and the hare? It's better to be smart than fast. RE: Master… Once in a while, {untranslatable pun about "haste makes waste"}. It's also important to deepen your knowledge with books. *giggle* I said something pretty neat, didn't I~?
There's a Japanese idiom "if you're in a hurry, take a detour" (急がば回れ), meaning something similar to "haste make waste" or "slow and steady wins the race". But here she says "if you're in a hurry, return". Mind you, she says "return" in English. And then at the end of the sentence she basically goes "hehe, that was pretty cool of me, uh?". She's just being an absolute goof in this line.
W1D4 Yellow chat: T Regulations and Caribbean cruise
Hakuno ruminates:
JP: 聖杯戦争という名の殺し合い。曖昧な記憶のまま、魔術師[ウィザード]として扱われる自分。加えて、いまいち性格の掴めないサーヴァント。 EN: This bloodbath known as the Holy Grail War. Me being recognized as a Wizard despite my amnesia. And being given a Servant who is capricious at best.
Rather, what Hakuno thinks about Caster is "a Servant whose personality I can't quite pin down".
Then, since Hakuno is brooding, Caster says "Okay, moping time is over!". In Japanese she says "That's enough seek time!", using the English loan term seek time (シークタイム). It's a term from computing, referring to the delay taken to access data. She likes using computing terms from time to time.
Then, the very next line, oh my god…
JP: 弱り目にたたり目、泣きっ面にハチ、 年上の女房は質に入れても即ゲット、 と申します! EN: The silver lining of an evil curse; An elder courtesan bought at auction; There is always hope in despair!
Here's our first encounter with another of Caster's running gags. She will start citing actual, real Japanese idioms… before throwing an absolute non-sequitur. In JP she says, in order:
"A curse hitting someone that's already weak": A real Japanese idiom for one problem following another. Like "to add insult to injury" in English.
"A bee on a crying face": Another real idiom with the same meaning.
"A mature wife is an instant GET, even if you have to pawn everything you own": Not… an actual idiom. Absolute fabrication. But it has the same cadence as the two previous proverbs. This means something like: no matter the sacrifice, a mature wife is always worth the trade-off. Essentially, she's saying: "Life sucks right now, so just focus on me!"
It's also worth noting that the term she uses for wife is nyoubou (女房), which in addition to meaning "wife" can also mean "court lady". So that's another subtle hint, as she's referring to herself both as a "mature wife" and as a "mature court lady". Let me insist that we're still on week 1.
Hakuno cheers up a little, but:
JP: それは素直に嬉しいのだが…… 最後のことわざは、ちょっと違うんじゃないだろうか? EN: While I truly appreciate her attempts at cheering me up, her metaphors definitely need some work.
In JP, Hakuno's saying something like: "Isn't that last proverb a bit off?"
JP: はい。それでは私の方からご挨拶をば。私の真名は諸事情、Z的な規制等によって明かせませんが、 EN: Okay, I'll go first. Of course, due to various rules and T Regulations, I can't tell you my true name,
In Japanese, that's "Z-class Regulations" (Z的な規制). In Japan, the CERO Z rating is a 18+ rating, equivalent to ESRB M or PEGI 18. So translating this as "T Regulations" is actually underselling it!
JP: それはもう由緒正しい、自分でもどうかと思うぐらい霊験あらたかな、狐耳のお手伝いさんです! EN: but it resembles that of a fox-eared maiden with an ancient and honorable origin, which surprises even me!
Minor mistranslation: she doesn't say "maiden" but rather "maid" (お手伝いさん), as in someone hired to assist with household chores.
JP: どうぞ気兼ねなく、キャスター、とお呼び捨てくださいね。 EN: But please do not hesitate to address me as Caster, okay?
Specifically, she asks you to use yobisute (呼び捨て), which means addressing her without using honorific suffixes (so "Caster" instead of "Caster-san" or the like). This would normally be considered rude, but it's common among very close, intimate partners. Note that Hakuno will indeed refer to her as plain "Caster" with no suffix.
JP: あ、でもぉ……お・ま・え、とか、 気安く呼んでくださった方が嬉しいんですけど! きゃっ、アタシったら言っちゃったー☆ EN: Ah, but "honey" would be so much nicer, don't you think? Eek! Did I just say that out loud?!
In JP, instead of "honey", she say's she'd be happy if you called her omae (おまえ). This is a pronoun that's normally rude, but in this context it's used for extremely close partners. So she's not asking for a pet name, but to be treated more intimately. Also, she doesn't just say omae but rather o・ma・e, with small cutesy pauses. She does this a lot too, and it can never be translated cleanly.
On that note, to refer to herself, Caster normally uses polite and humble personal pronouns like watakushi or watashi. But I think this the first line where she instead uses atashi (アタシ), a much more cutesy and girly personal pronoun that she will rarely use.
If you ask what T Regulations are, she says that they allow for naughty acts (ero ero), but:
JP: でも私は空気が読めるので、 そういうのは自粛中ってコトで一つ。 EN: I see what you're trying to do, but I have more self-control than that! RE: But since I know how to read the room, let's just say I'm currently practicing self-restraint regarding that sort of thing.
JP: ご主人様も、あまり女の子の過去とか、 詮索しちゃダメですよ? EN: And anyway, haven't you ever heard the saying "A gentleman never asks and a lady never tells?" RE: You too, Master, you mustn't go prying into a girl's past, okay?
For the next line, recall she was originally talking about the ZERO Z rating:
JP: ……まあ、エロエロなのはRで、 Zまでいくと人体をこう、流血させたり爆発させたり、 コロコロしちゃうコトなんですけどねぇ…… EN: …Well, if you follow T Regulations, certain lascivious imagery and language is allowed, even encouraged, but once you go beyond them, things get very violent, gory, and there are a lot of boobs and such… RE: …Well, erotic stuff is actually rated R, if you go up to Z then that involves things like making the human body go, well, bleed and explode and just go pop!
Now, if playing specifically as Hakunon, there's a second dialogue choice:
Hakunon: あ・な・たって……わたし、女なんだけど。 Hakunon: Oh, "honey," you do remember that I am but an innocent girl.
Recall, in English, Caster asked you to call her "honey", and now Hakunon does, if semi-sarcastically. But in Japanese, she asked you to call her "omae", which is far too intimate, so Hakunon instead calls her "anata", which is affectionate but doesn't quite go that far.
JP: 不肖この私、 一度ご主人様と決めた方には誠心誠意、 全力全霊でお仕えいたします!そこに男女の差などありません! EN: Though unworthy I may be, I will serve you with all my heart and soul in any way you choose! In that… and in many other things… gender has no influence on my dedication to my duty! RE: Though I am unworthy, once I have decided upon a Master, I serve them with all my heart, power, and soul! There is no distinction between man and woman in that regard!
Then, one of her most infamous lines:
JP: ま、殿方の方が お仕えしやすいのは事実ですが。でもでも、ホントに困ったら私の呪術で いくらでもなんとかなりますから!どうぞ、大船に乗った気でいてください! EN: To be honest, it is somewhat easier to have a male as a Master. But! If the idea of doing certain… things…bothers you, I'll make everything better with my magic! So just relax a little. You know, like you're taking a nice cruise through the Caribbean or something!
It is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that a more literal translation would be:
RE: Well, it's true that a man would be somewhat easier to serve. But, but! If you're truly bothered by it, my sorcery can handle just about anything! So please rest easy, you're in safe hands!
She's using a Japanese idiom which literally translates to something like "to feel like you're boarding a large ship" (大船に乗った気で), meaning something like "you're in good hands" or "you can feel secure". As in, if you're riding on a large ship, you don't worry about storms. It's an expression of reassurance.
Hakunon responds:
JP: ……大船どころか、 とんでもない暴走特急に乗った気がしないでもない。今の発言は深く考えないようにしておこう。 その、精神衛生上的に。 EN: …Cruise through the Caribbean? Try clinging to the aft railing of the Titanic… For the sake of my fragile sanity, I should stop thinking too hard on what she just said. RE: …Far from being on a large ship, I can't help but feel like I've boarded some sort of runaway express train. I'd better try not to think too deeply about what she just said. For the sake of my mental health.
So in JP, "riding a big ship" is an idiom for feeling safe, which has Hakunon respond with a counter-idiom of feeling like she's on a "runaway express train" instead. But that wouldn't translate well to English, so the localization… gets just a little bit creative. They went for "Caribbean cruise" to evoke luxury and relaxation, and then "clinging to the aft railing of the Titanic" to evoke a sinking disaster, to try to keep the joke.
The, er, implication is still there in Japanese, kind of, but it's far, far subtler. More elegant. More of a wink and a nod.
Regardless of dialogue choice, eventually Caster asks Hakuno for their memories, but of course they have none. So Caster apologizes.
JP: 記憶なんてなくても困らないし、何かの拍子でサクッと戻ってくるものです!他ならぬ私が断言しちゃいます! EN: I'm not worried that you don't have any memories now! I know that you'll get them back eventually! RE: It's not a problem if you don't have your memories. They just pop back into place when you least expect it! I can absolutely guarantee it!
It's a very cute line, because she uses hokanaranu watakushi (他ならぬ私), which can just be a general energetic "I guarantee it", but also a "I of all people would know".
JP: っていうか、 戻ってもいい記憶だって保証もないし、むしろ戻らない方がいいコトだって あるような、ないような――― EN: But there's no guarantee that when your memories come back that they'll be good memories. Actually, I have the feeling that it'd be better if you never get them back― RE: Or rather, there's no guarantee that the memories you get back will be good ones. In fact, maybe sometimes it's best not to remember… ah, or maybe not?
The localization makes her sound almost hostile. The line's tricky, because she's trailing off towards the end, in a "maybe, maybe not" kind of way. Kind of like "but don't pay much attention to what I'm saying, haha."
If it's not clear by now, this is foreshadowing for her backstory. Caster was born with no memories about being a Divine Spirit, about being a nonhuman living among humans. And when she got her memories (and ears and tail) back, that threw her into a panic. That's why she's saying that perhaps sometimes it's best if you don't get your memories back… But she's mostly talking about herself here, not about Hakuno.
This is made more obvious by Hakuno's own thoughts right after:
JP: ……気のせいだろうか。 いま、キャスター声が微妙に落ちこんでいた気がする。こちらを励まそうとした言葉に、 知らず、自分が傷ついてしまったような。 EN: …I'm probably imagining it, but Caster sounded slightly dejected just now. It's almost as if I somehow unintentionally blew off her attempts at encouragement… RE: …Was it my imagination? Just now, I felt as if Caster's voice had grown slightly dejected. It's as if, without realizing it, she had hurt herself with the very words meant to encourage me.
W1D4 Alteration of the Soul: Pouring love
This is the first day where we can do Alteration of the Soul. If you boost Caster's stats, but not enough to learn a skill, she says:
JP: こうやってチビチビと私に 愛を注ぎ込んでくれるなんて… そんなご主人様もステキです! EN: It's so cute the way you pour your love into me just a little bit at a time, Master!
First, yes, the Japanese version uses the same exact innuendo. In fact, it's arguably worse. She literally talks about pouring love (愛を注ぎ込む). But specially, she uses chibichibi (チビチビ), which does mean "little by little", and usually in the context of sipping a drink. You know, savoring it, letting it coat your tongue.
The other thing to note is that this is the first time she calls her Master suteki (ステキ), another favorite word of hers she uses a lot for Hakuno. I'll just copypaste its dictionary entry: "lovely; wonderful; charming; enchanting; nice; great; splendid; marvellous (marvelous); fantastic; superb".
W1D5 Alteration of the Soul: Level-up in love
Another one:
JP: ふふ……ご主人様からの魔力を感じます。この言葉には表せないEXP[けいけんち]的なもの……ズバリ!愛のランクアップとみました! EN: *Giggle* Oh dear Master, you've given me the best gift of all… A level-up in your love! RE: *Giggle* I can feel the Magical Energy coming from my Master. It's kind of like EXP, though words can't quite describe it… I know! I'd say this is a love RANK UP!
That "Magical Energy" is maryoku (魔力), as in mana and od.
W1D5 Diegetic fast travel
This is the dialogue that unlocks fast travel:
JP: ところで、ご主人様[マスター]。端末の□ボタンを押したことありますか? EN: Oh, Master—! Have you ever given any thought to pressing □ at all? RE: By the way, Master. Have you ever pressed the □ button on your terminal?"
Apparently fast travel is supposed to be diegetic, like it's a function of the terminal?
W1D5 Second sigil
When removing the second of Shinji's sigils, Caster says:
JP: やったぁ!これで、お子さま魔法陣を 2つとも壊しましたよ。 ご主人様、素敵です! EN: All right, we finally got rid of those pesky magic sigils! Master, you really are the greatest!
Another instance of Caster calling her Master suteki (素敵), lovely/wonderful, this time with kanji.
But most interestingly, she calls the sigil a "child's" (お子さま) sigil. As in, child's play, but also as in made by a child. Knowing what we learn about Shinji after his fight…
W1D6 Caster's midday warning
This is what Caster has to say about Shinji and Rider:
JP: 相手のマスターはカスですけど サーヴァントはそこそこ手ごわいですよ。 まあ私とご主人様が組めば楽勝ですけどね! EN: The enemy Master is just a bully, but his Servant's a tough woman. Still, I know we'll win! RE: The enemy Master is trash, but his Servant is reasonably tough. Well, Master, as long as you and I are working as a team, this will be a walk in the park!
W1D6 Treasure hunt begins
Shinji challenges us to a treasure hunt. Caster's reaction:
JP: ふっふっふ…財宝は全て私の…ご主人様のものです! EN: *Chuckle* …The treasure is all MI— I mean, my dear Master's!
This joke sounds a bit more natural in Japanese. You see, Caster will refer to herself as watakushi, and to her Master as goshujinsama. And in Japanese, the particle no can be used as a possessive marker. So, watakushi no goshujinsama just naturally means "my Master".
So here she starts saying "the treasure belongs to watakushi", then there's a small pause, and then she hurriedly adds "no goshujinsama".
W1D7 Rider Matrix: Character background
If you unlock the full matrix for the opponent Rider (Drake), her Character Background entry includes this interesting tidbit:
JP: 「アタシが金貨を集めるのは嵐のように使い切るためさね!」とは本人の談。そういった理由で、いかに黄金好きでも“使い切れぬ財宝”を象徴する英雄王とは相容れない。同じ理由で永遠を定義する狐耳のキャスターとも相容れない。 EN: As she so often declares, "I chase after gold so that I can scatter it like a storm!" It is for this reason that she is wholly incompatible with the King of Heroes that symbolizes "an inexhaustible treasury." She would also be at odds with the fox-eared Caster, as Caster is the epitome of eternity.
Translation's good. The "King of Heroes" bit obviously refers to Gilgamesh. As for Caster, I think this is the first time the game drops an explicit hint about her hailing from divinity (disregarding her occasional threats of "divine punishment", which could just be overlooked as a character quirk).
For Caster, it specifically says that she "defines eternity" (永遠を定義する). "Define" as in defining a variable or defining a word in a dictionary. And that "eternity" is eien (永遠), meaning eternity, perpetuity, immortality. In Extella, Hakuno explicitly says (before the final boss in Caster's route) that Caster has an Origin of Eternity, using the same eien. An Origin in Fate is… a difficult concept to explain, but you could say that this random note in Rider's entry in Extra was the first subtle allusion towards Caster's Origin.
W1D7 No Cipher Keys (DEAD END)
If you somehow reach the end of the week and haven't gotten both keys, the game gives you a non-standard game over. I've checked the script out of curiosity, and all three Servants react with the same line:
JP: ……。 EN: …It must've been my imagination.
I'm confused why they localized the Servant's stunned silence as that.
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I only had one thought about that collab trailer today
Won't you look at me just this once?
A doodle of Hakuno and Archer facing some zombies. Hakuno's preparing a hack, so I guess they're digital zombies?
She seems pleased about their odds. Good for her.
They're on a date
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I got to this part then fell asleep why is she the 🥺emoji
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Oh yeah, and here's Walter (my friend started calling her that it's short for silver wolf alter lmao) in a more casual outfit, sharing this cuz i won't work on it for a while
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The one who's always getting into trouble and the one constantly scolding her.
Ok, you had my curiosity now you have my attention: Tell me what's going on at Honkai Star Rail?
You wake up with the equivalent of a *looks up stellaron* apocalyptic cancer inside of you, you have no memories, and now you are travelling with a bunch of people on a train across the galaxies and go on adventures to help others!
and sometimes! you witness the horrors!