Bullying and harassing a minority with a high rate of suicide dose nothing for feminism other than lower its supporters. All women belong in feminism, even if their body isnt like yours. Nb lesbians exist and have existed historically. Trans women are women and female and unless yo ass a doctor you cant disagree. You cant abolish gender if you dont also abolish sex, everyone is fucking equal.
I'm not bullying or harassing anyone. I'm defending an oppressed minority group from having their activist movement derailed just so people can feel included.
"you can't abolish gender if you don't also abolish sex" how do you figure? because if gender is your identity and sex is your biology, how does it make sense that abolishing an ideation based in historically perpetuated gender roles would necessarily make sex obsolete?
What is the goal of feminism if anyone can identify in or out of the oppressed minority it seeks to protect? What need is there for feminism if we can't even discuss the criteria for misogyny? Who does feminism defend if there is no common trait that holds the oppressed minority together as the identifiable victims of the patriarchy? If all that makes a woman is "feeling like a woman" and yet women are still oppressed, why would anyone identify as a woman? In fact, if all that makes a woman is "feeling like a woman," what were women oppressed for to begin with? How did the men know whom to oppress?
"trans women are women and female and unless yo ass a doctor you cant disagree." watch me. If transwomen are both women and female, what makes them trans? and do you really want to pull the doctor thread when "brainsex" has been debunked by multiple studies?
Trans people are oppressed for not fitting neatly into the boxes of "born male=stuff we associate with men; born female=stuff we associate with women". The solution is not to expand the boxes, the solution is to abolish the boxes so that anyone regardless of biological sex can engage in behaviours associated with the opposite sex without stigma. Thats one of the reasons I say to abolish gender and not sexâ gender has been restricting the two sexes to rigid behaviour considered socially acceptable for millennia, but the behaviour restricting female people has contributed to our societal disadvantage and reliance on males. By abolishing the division between these genders/behaviours/associations but still acknowledging sex, we can fight the underlying problems society has with females while making "masculinity" and "femininity" obsolete. idgaf if males want to wear skirts or lipstick or whatever but that's never been womanhood. they should be able to exercise that self-expression without experiencing oppression for it (transphobia) but also without perpetuating misogyny by claiming that those very things make them women.
For example, dresses vs trousers. Remember the way females were required to wear dresses that hindered movement and squished ribs and kept them slow-moving while men in trousers had mobility, practicality, and comfort? Remember when women started trying to wear trousers because, again, mobility practicality and comfort? and remember just how much men hated that and tried to portray them as unduly masculine and man-hating? The point is that the gendered thing for women (skirts) actively contributed towards misogyny and attempts to break out of it and wear trousers resulted in more violent misogyny against those who didn't conform. To say that those women wearing trousers were men for wanting to wear trousers in order to achieve a greater level of social equality is also misogynistic because it means that women are defined as the ones who ought to be hindered and anyone who benefitted from that advantage ought to be a man. this is also why I take issue with your statement "nb lesbians exist and have existed historically" and any retroactive "transing" of women who dared to defy restrictive womanhood.
last but not least, "everyone is fucking equal." well no actually the point is that we're not equal yet, we need feminism to get there, and for feminism to do its damn job we need to at least be able to identify its defendees by the trait for which they're oppressed, and women are not oppressed for femininityâfemininity is a tool of the oppression.
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