My thoughts on how Toby thinks of Chara, after 10 fucking years of arguing with people about them: hmm idk. It's impossible to say for certain what he thinks of them, due to how intentionally mysterious and complex they're made to be. Perhaps they were intended to be a gray villain... perhaps they were intended as the secret narrator.... perhaps they were intended to be a fun creepypasta character... no one can claim anything 100% because of the ambiguity.... and it's also possible that they started as one and then his perception changed over the years, from how fans saw them and his own changes over time.... I believe fans with a more negative interpretation are projecting worst case scenarios when that is not typically how he writes his characters, but it's always possible that I am wrong... I do believe there is overwhelming evidence in favor of a kinder, more positive interpretation in the base game, if one digs into the meat of the characters, but I will admit it's mostly subtext and nothing confirmed, so perhaps I'm incorrect... And yet, there is enough that I believe he certainly doesn't see them as a bad or abusive person, from how he writes other characters and the references he's made to them in the Alarm Clock dialogue and choosing to honor the 9th anniversary with the sweet Asriel & Chara letter..... so, ultimately, while we'll never know for certain, I believe he does have a kinder, more sympathetic view of them, and the 9th anniversary letter makes it plain that even if they ARE a villain, they are complicated and hurt-
Me after the 10th anniversary stream: oh no he loves that funky little bean. FUNK YEAH!
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I missed most of the stream the first day and then came in at the very end the second (so eager to watch it!!! whenever I get a day!!!!! AAAAAAAA!!!!!), but just wanted to say: I love this game and the people who love it and everything good it's done for people in its 10 years. My heart was so stinkin fuzzy tonight with love for all you guys and I'm so glad Undertale and Deltarune exist and shaped us in the ways they have and helped us
Sorry for the sappiness, but feeling very sincere and full of warmth in the club rn
What if we get another "soul gets loose" moment and Kris catches us by trapping us in a box but then Susie and Noelle walk in and Kris immediately sits down on the box to hide us/keep us trapped while they talk to Kris
but we can still move and we can just scooch Kris around freestyle while Susie and Noelle are increasingly like ????? the fuck is something alive in that box?? and Kris is just sweating bullets as we merrily scoot them around like a Roomba without being able to let their friends know about us
I crave more shenanigans, I want to bully this funnyass teen as much as they bully me, I love being annoying, all I want is more opportunities to annoy and inconvenience them ā¤
honestly i never thought the phrase āi want that twink obliteratedā was like a sexual thing. like when i read the phrase i imagine āa meteor like the one that killed the dinosaurs is summoned from the heavens and hits the twink in questionā type situation
I AM GETTING SO HEATED OVER SOME OF THE KRIS DISCOURSE I'M SEEING RN
Like some people are saying that Kris suddenly is unsympathetic now or being a dick or saying they don't feel bad for them anymore and I'M GOING GHOST AHHHHHH
I can see why people could think Kris was sinister in Chapter 1. There's still evidence they're not heartless (how emotional they get thinking of Asriel with the hot chocolate), but the way it's framed and how little of the real them we knew at the time, I can see HOW people at the time could think they were kind of villainous and maybe up to no good. People seemed to tolerate them for their family's sake more than anything (because monsters give the benefit of the doubt when they shouldn't and are too goofy to pick up on warning signs), their pranks seemed kinda mean, they were hard to read, they flashed a knife and a big scary grin at the camera, ahh! Maybe they're possessed by Evil Chara or maybe they ARE Chara or maybe they're just their own kind of evil and we were keeping them in check and now they're going to go kill people and after this we'll switch to Susie and THEY will be the main villain!!
(It feels SO weird to be flashing back to that time lol. Dark days, those were.)
(... It is funny how the perspective on Kris seems to go back and forth after every new chapter.)
Chapter 2 sunk that COMPLETELY for me and the fandom at large. People DO think fondly of them. Noelle is used to their shenanigans and enjoys their company. They're funny and goofy and deeply, deeply weird. They so, so, SO clearly care deeply about their loved ones, and the Weird Route proved definitively that whatever is happening, they don't want people to get hurt (they're not particularly close to Berdly and they're HORRIFIED by what happened to him and didn't want any of that to happen, going by how upset they were after reuniting with Susie and Ralsei) and they get scared and overwhelmed by what they're put through. We don't know everything about they're thinking, but they're demonstrably a good kid.
We already knew they were up to SOMETHING they weren't telling us. These chapters showed more of that! They went out of their way to show Kris wants to help their friends, but they're bound to this secret plan and they're suffering a lot of anguish over it (passing out drinking?? going sicko mode on the soul after the shit we did to them and their friends in the Weird Route???). They're a TEENAGER in way over their head, they're not malicious or uncaring or being a dick! Nothing has changed since the Kris of Chapter 2, we just got more information on what might be going on. Idk why some people are acting like this is is a huge change that turns everything they thought they knew about Kris on its head.
(MAN for a fandom that claims we love layered characters, we sure are quick to turn on them when they show any kind of layer, huh? Chara Defense Squad, c'mon, we got to rise up and look out for Kris too.)
(It's always these kids and their secret plans.... people just want to assume the worst of them.)
Despite everything, it's still Kris. They just got a little bit more mystery teased for them and what's REALLY going on. They're a player character fully under our control for most of the chapters and that gets examined in a meta way (cool!!), AND a dynamic character acting behind the scenes with their own secret plans and we don't even know what it is (omg even cooler!!!), AND they're funny and silly and likable and a weird, awkward little guy (YESSSSSS!). Kris is EASILY like one of the best characters of Deltarune and so interesting, and I hate seeing them getting dropped so fast by some just because we got handed a bit more pieces of the mystery like what???
And you know, it's still early, these people might settle down and come back around on em once they think about it more. And I'm reacting to responses I saw on one site, idk if it's a widespread thing or kind of an unusual response, and maybe way more people are as excited by the Kris' kick ass plot as I am. So I might be overreacting and maybe you're sitting here reading this like huh??? people are mad at Kris?! everyone I've seen isn't.
But it's just like, c'mon guys, I think they've earned more than enough goodwill for us to give them the benefit of the doubt and trust that whatever they're doing, they got their heart in the right place.
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Had to ban the phrase ātricky dickā from my classroom during watergate lesson because saying the word dick in front of 30 fifteen year olds is like lighting a bomb and throwing it through the doorway but now theyāre just calling him Richard the Treacherous like theyāre all medieval peasants. gonna lose it
to be fair to Cain if nobody had ever died before and I didn't know it was possible I would probably also hit my brother over the head with a rock if he was being really annoying
its only JUST hit me that mad mew mew's motivation in her first fight was to take your soul, cross the barrier and then live as a mannequin in a shop window for the rest of her life, and presumably do nothing else with this power. thats really fucking funny
[gordon ramsey in the russian sleep experiment facility] fuck me that's frightening. jesus christ. theyre eating their own flesh. can't blame them i suppose considering the food they serve here
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[ID: a series of tweets by @/DidJimmyDie, an account tracking if former president jimmy carter has died.
1: tweet reading "No." a community note below it reads "Yes." citing an article by NBC.
2: tweet reading "FUCK" followed by another reading "Community note it was YESTERDAY" to which a community note replies "No it wasn't."
3: tweet by @/AllowingPluto that reads "You made this account for this single moment and you failed", to which @/DidJimmyDie replies "Nuh uh". To this, the community notes reply "Yuh-huh" and cite another NBC article
do u think omegaverse acknowledges covid-19 and the generation of people who permanently lost their sense of smell like how are they all scenting each other now is the omegaverse economy in shambles
actually pheromone sensing works differently from normal olfaction, since humans in our world donāt have a functioning vomeronasal organ (VNO), we donāt have any data on how covid-19 would affect a functioning VNO in omegaverse AUs
Actually there is evidence that covid probably would affect the VNO and it stands to reason would accordingly impair its function. Briefly:
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes covid, can only infect cells expressing a certain protein called ACE2
ACE2 is expressed widely in nasal cavity epithelial cells but not in olfactory sensory neurons.Ā
Seo et al. (2021) studied potential nasal targets for SARS-CoV-2 using golden hamsters as a model organism (commonly used as a proxy for humans in virology studies)
They found ACE2 expression in the main olfactory bulb epithelium (MOE, your ānormalā nose organ)Ā as well as the vomeronasal organ (VNO)
Several cell types in the VNO were able to be infected and they also found significant inflammatory activity (macrophage activation, apoptotic cells, etc)Ā
The specifics of how covid actually causes dysosmia are not known for sure but epithelial damage by local inflammatory immune responses likely plays a role, especially because sensory neurons themselves are not affected (Bilinska, & Butowt, 2020). Therefore I would suggest a potential similar effect of VNO dysfunction as we see in the main olfactory bulb
From Seo et al.: āConsidering the function of the VNO, infection and subsequent pathologic changes may affect the behavior of Syrian hamstersā
If it stands to reason that omegaverse individuals have functioning VNOs similar to members of the animal kingdom, then it is more than reasonable to conclude that covid may cause them to lose not only their main olfactory function, but also their VNO function as well
Ā References: (1) (2)
In conclusion the omegaverse economy IS in shambles.
OP this is very well-written but im still hung up on how you came onstage dressed as a clown only to tear off the costume and reveal yourself as a biologist
If you've committed a crime and a detective gathers everyone involved in the room, especially if he's not actually a detective and is instead a novelist, puzzle-setter, psychic, fake psychic, dog, chess grandmaster, etc. ...
YOU SHOULD NOT CONFESS.
Every year, hundreds of people are put away by non-traditional "detectives" who have either inserted themselves into the case or are working with the police in a dubiously legal capacity as advisor. In 99% of these cases, the murderer gives a full confession even though the evidence against them is circumstantial at best and often requires a long just-so story which can only guess at motive.
If this happens to you, stay quiet, do not attempt to defend yourself or talk your way out of it, only say "I want a lawyer".
Now if you find yourself being investigated by a boy genius, magician's assistant, anthropologist, classics scholar, or philosopher, it's likely that refusing to talk to the police (or investigator with no legal authority) is merely the end of the second act, and by the end of the third act they will have you dead to rights.
YOU SHOULD STILL NOT CONFESS.
Make them take it to court. Force the eccentric detective and his straight-laced police partner to take the stand and explain their methods to a jury of your peers. Have your lawyer look at the chain of custody on the evidence, especially if you believe it to have been handled by someone who has only bumbled into detective work through their natural charm and/or unique set of skills and outsider perspective that come in handy more often than they should.
Know your rights. Don't let eccentric detectives put you away.
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