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It takes a lot to keep up with a speedster! Pietro is enjoying his time with his two lovers, Namor and Remy, as they have a competition over which of them can please him the most.

For Quicksilver Week 2021 - Day 4 - Lover (18+ version is here )

The reason their reports were honoured was not because the content they reported had any actual "pedophilic content" (The RPF fic did not have pedophilia), but because sexual intimacy 'below the neck' is banned in Chinese platforms, and LGBTQ content regardless of rating has been the target of increasingly strict state censorship for years. It was never about pedophilia like Tiffany G claims it is. I think a lot of people (including myself) think that censoring truly morally reprehensible content is a good thing, but from my experience with state censorship it always starts out that way, with things that we generally agree is abhorrent but then it never stops there. As of now, sexually intimate scenes are no longer allowed to be portrayed in stories, especially in LGBTQ centered stories, even though it was possible just a few years ago.

EDIT: Clarifying because I phrased the above line wrong and people on the comments think this means I'm pro censorship. What I meant was that there are people who may think that censoring morally reprehensible content like pedophilia is a good thing and I WAS one of them, but because of my experience with state censorship, I've come to realize that it doesn't stop there and will eventually spread to other "formerly acceptable" content and people should realize that fiction is not reality when deeming whether content is moral or not. My english is really not that good yet 😂 Thanks for helping me compose this @ravijahn

AO3 was able to exist as a gray area in Chinese internet for so long because of its niche existence. In the uncertain world within the 'Great Firewall', things like this can usually survive longer as long as it stays in its little niche corner, that's why minding your own business and being meticulous about tagging your content is such an important concept in Chinese fandom. It was generally agreed upon that no matter how bad things get in fandom disagreements, reporting content should never even be an option, because drawing mainstream attention is a surefire way to kill a free creative space within the firewall. Xiao Zhan's fans disrespected that and ruined everything for everyone, and since then rules like "No Xiao Zhan fans allowed" are common to see within Chinese online spaces.

This issue has made its way to weibo and plenty Chinese fans are pissed at that Tiffany person. Just look up 'Tiffany G' on weibo and read what people are saying. Although I have seen some genuinly hurtful and racist takes about Tiffany on international social media, I would also like to say that reducing the criticism against her as nothing more than 'white people being racist' isn't fair either because Chinese fans are just as worried and angry about this. I hope people can fight for this without unfairly misrepresenting Chinese fans, who were the biggest victims of the AO3 ban in China. It was the last bastion of creative freedom and uncensored LGBTQ content within the firewall and to have it taken away really brought so much pain to a lot of people. Tiffany G's views do NOT represent Chinese fans, and even though some people are painting her as possible representation for non-white fans on the OTW board, the reality is that her views are the exact opposite of what Chinese fans want.

Here's an excellent twitter post that explains this much better than I can. Please give it a read and share!

Aww thank you so much! It’s always nice when I hear from other Pietro fans.

I loved All-New X-Factor! I would definitely suggest it to you if you hadn’t read it already. Sooo here’s some other comics with Pietro that I really enjoyed:

Avengers Origins: The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver

X-Factor (the first Peter David run, a must read for Quicksilver fans)

Avengers/X-Men: Bloodties

The Quicksilver 90′s solo title

Magneto War and Magneto Rex

Magneto: Dark Seduction

JLA/Avengers (Crossover with the DC Universe)

House of M (no matter what they say, it was House of M that made me love Pietro so much)

Son of M

X-Factor: The Quick and the Dead

The Mighty Avengers #21-#36

Avengers Academy (I really like this title. I must warn you that Pietro doesn’t appear all that much but Christos Gage writes him so well!)

Avengers: The Children’s Crusade

Avengers Millennium (it’s an Infinite comic, you can get it on your tablet)

16. Uncanny Avengers Vol. 2

17. Uncanny Avengers Vol. 3

18. From 2016, Avengers #1.1, #2.1, #3.1, #4.1, #5.1 (Flashback storyline with Cap’s Kooky Quartet!)

19. Avengers: No Surrender, Avengers #675-690

20. Quicksilver: No Surrender

(Just to clarify Pietro is in Uncanny Avengers vol. 2 and Uncanny Avengers vol.3. Volume 2 is a 5 issues limited series and they give us the whole High Evolutionary treatment. Basically its were Pietro and Wanda find out that they are his failed experiments. Hey, but in Vol. 3 they give Pietro a new love interest after like decades lmao!)

Pietro is a romantic, let’s be honest. Crystal really hurt him and he blames himself. She gaslit him. Crystal treating him the way she did played on all his worst thoughts about himself.

He’ll never be good enough; especially not for a Princess. He’ll fail as a Father like his Father did and that he’ll never be able to protect the ones he loves. I mean Crystal ignores Luna but still will not let Luna see him as much as she and he wants to.

Pietro feels doomed to fulfil his Father’s fate and his Father treats him like he’s to blame because he cannot fully separate himself from Pietro. I saw a panel where Pietro is talking in his sleep and he was talking about how Crystal said she was scared of him. Again another connection, his Mum got scared by Magneto and ran away.

He has been broken down by the Avengers by everyone almost. Really the only good way forward for him is an X Team.

Pietro makes a mistake and no one lets him live it down. Yet Pietro has never made a decision purely for his own benefit his decisions may backfire but it is never just for himself. The whole issue in many cases is that Pietro has been alienated by so many people by his team on many occasions but also by mutants. Which is why ANXF and his relationship with Lorna was really important. Lorna fought for him.

I agree that Pietro being on a X Team specifically X-Factor is the best place for him, he will never be written well in any Avengers teams and X-Men main books will focus on his family relationship with Magneto, but for him to really shine he needs to be on a team where he is valued. 

As for why Pietro is unsuccessful romantically I have a few theories but the one that I usually think about is that Pietro is Demiromantic (someone who only develops romantic feelings for another person when they have a strong emotional connection to them). I know in Quicksilver fandom we have talked about this, him being Asexual, him being Pan or Bisexual, but I think him being Demiromantic does make the most sense, I think it was @teal-bandit​ who first mentioned this. 

My other theories are that:

- Pietro was never a character who was a writer’s pet, aka a writer who wanted to develop him and write him well, until PAD came along, so most writers just don’t care about his relationships, he was even thrown together with Crystal just so that the writers could break up Johnny/Crystal once and for all by marrying her off. 

- Because Pietro was married to Crystal and neither character was very popular on their own he was allowed to have a seemingly normal development in writing (until Englehart came along and decided to mess it up) such as a child, a family. Crystal is literally the first ever love interest Pietro has. He is never seen flirting with other women or men before that point.

- Crystal & Pietro were terrible together but they stayed as a couple until their divorce, so Pietro never cheated and never had other relationships for a very big chunk of his existence. Even after the divorce the most we get is a one time “joke” that Rictor slept with Pietro (X-Factor (2006) #14) I personally think Julio and Pietro did sleep together but Julio played it off as a joke after that reaction.

- I agree that Pietro often thinks of others, specifically his family before he ever considers his own happiness and wants. 

- Marvel refuses to explore Pietro’s sexuality, because they were going to make him gay in an alternate universe but was afraid fans would demand he and Namor be gay in 616 canon even though they have had other characters such as Wolverine be gay in AU’s. I feel this is because the moment they wrote/drew it out it made more sense for Pietro to be Pan/Bi/Gay, but Marvel shoved him back into the closet. X

Also the artist Claire Hummel was pushing for Marvel to use romance type covers for the House of M mini.

So we are left with Quicksilver who only has one real relationship, maybe two other documented sexual encounters with Rictor & Warbird, before the MCU came along. Notice here that Pietro is once again not the one pursuing but Warbird kisses him out of the blue. Avengers Academy #38

Now we have the MCU/XMCU come along and basically change Pietro into a character he isn’t (as well as white wash him :/) The one I’m focusing on because it made an impact in the comics is MCU Pietro, Joss Whedon clearly didn’t know the character because he described Quicksilver as a “horndog” when in the last (at that time) 50 years of his creation he has been the furthest thing from a hypersexual character. The comics of that time specifically Uncanny Avengers vol 2 #1 after the Axis event suddenly have Pietro going on multiple dates when that has never been the norm for him. Clearly other characters do find him pretty however as we can see it was totally in the writers hands to actually write him as a man who would be romantically interested in by others.

At this point he begins to have a romantic relationship with Synapse which of course blows up in his face as he is blamed for getting hurt in a later battle (issue 29)