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I’ve been in this fandom since around 2015. I was here during what a lot of people would probably call the “older era” of it, when things were different—not necessarily better, but different in ways that mattered. Over time, most of the people from that period have left, and with them, a lot of the context that shaped how this fandom used to function.

Now there are a lot of newer fans here, and that’s not a bad thing. But a lot of what’s talked about now is missing years of history—events, interviews, fandom moments, and situations that people either don’t know about or only know pieces of.

That’s what this is for.

This is not meant to be biased. It’s not meant to defend or attack anyone. It’s not about liking or disliking Sebastian, or telling you how you should feel about him. This is just an attempt to document what actually happened over the years as clearly and as broken down as possible.

There will be timelines. There will be specific events. There will be things that were said, things that were misinterpreted, and things that got lost over time. Everything will be laid out in sections so it’s easier to follow instead of scattered across years of posts.

You can take from it what you want. You can agree or disagree. That’s not the point.

The point is that the information is there.

I’ve been part of this fandom for a long time, and I wanted to leave something behind that actually preserves its history in a way that people can access and understand, especially if you weren’t here when it was happening.

I’m dying of cancer, and this is something I wanted to finish and leave behind.

If you’re new, this is for you.

If you’ve been here a while, you probably already know how much gets forgotten.

Either way, this is the archive.

As the posts are created, I will link them appropriately.

This post is an organized archive of information, timelines, and events related to Sebastian Stan. It is structured to separate confirmed facts, reported information, rumors, and fandom interpretation as clearly as possible.

Navigation:

I. Basic Profile/Overview

II. Career Timeline

III. Public Personality & Interviews

IV. Relationships & Social Circle

V. Family & Personal Life

VI. Romantic Relationships

VII. Fandom History

VIII. Events & Controversies

IX. Blinds, Gossip & Speculation

X. Questionable / Criticized Behavior

XI. Habits, Preferences & Fun Facts

XII. Media & PR Patterns

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Mod, can you elaborate more on this take? What do you think they have in common? And why is that dangerous?

I’ve been going through a rough patch where I’ve felt abandoned emotionally in my marriage so I decided I didn’t want kids with him. He was resentful of that and I basically got treated like ass this whole last year for it—maybe longer. I just started noticing. TMI but my experience makes it obvious to me there is friction between them and it’s bigger than a minor disagreement. It’s like a fundamental thing.

So coming from my point of view there’s obviously friction between them. Someone is pulling away. Theres obviously animosity here. I obviously cant say what since I’m not in their relationship. But I truly think they broke up or took a break last year for a huge reason and somehow ended up back together.

I think it might be something that most people might overlook or I haven’t seen it anywhere yet. Again this is just speculation and reminder that I know nothing about these folks in reality.

But here’s my two cents of what things can rub the wrong way on each other: Sebastian is a stubborn leo. Strong-willed, set in his ways. With that comes certain personality traits of his. Annabelle is a dominant extrovert. Put those two things together for a large amount of time; at first it might even be super energizing and great, it can be incredibly complementary at first and even energizing for both people. But over a long period of time, if neither person is willing to bend or compromise in certain areas, those same traits can start to create tension.

I think what can happen is that the qualities that attract two people to each other in the beginning can become the very things that frustrate them later. Confidence becomes stubbornness. Independence becomes emotional distance. Assertiveness becomes control. Again, I have no idea if that's what's happening here, but it's something I've seen happen in relationships before.

Agree, think about the pictures of them we’ve seen, which are not many. We have the gala ball in the fall where it was pure animosity between the two of them. February and the Valentine’s Day Pap walk was again no interest, no conversation. Sebastian refused to come over and do a Pap walk with her When he was in the same block when the pregnancy news first came out. And then we have can, where he appeared to be beyond ticked off with her. And yet we’re supposed to believe that during all of this animosity and ill will they were planning to have a child together. Really?

Wait which video was this? There was a bunch, was it the one where they were leaving together with her in that pink dress and he "made her walk into a bush"? Because omg, I really want to talk about this one. A lot of people on various social media kept saying that Seb was drunk, thoughtless, treating her very poorly, and wasn't paying attention, literally leading his pregnant girlfriend to fall into a bush. I actually don't think that's the case. The video very conveniently cuts off and don't give us more context. But to me, it kind of looks like a fan stopped Annabelle for a picture and she obliged. I think I see Annabelle's arm around someone, and someone else have their arm around her back too, and she's leaning towards them to get in a selfie. It just so happens that it was near a bush. She wouldn't let go of Seb's hand and so he gets yanked back, also directly into the bush. I don't know why they couldn't give us this complete video. Cutting it off this way really does make it seem like Seb was too careless.

Here's another angle of Annabelle "falling into a bush," you can see her kind of hug someone near the bush and pause there as Seb waits for her, and then it gets cut off to show them continuing to walk to the car. Also you can kind of hear something like "Just one moment please" or "Just one picture first" either said by Annabelle or the fan: https://www.instagram.com/p/DYfxcjpNPbW/

I wish they would release the entire video to show the aftermath as well. It's so weird that they would just cut it off like that. The conspiracy theorist in me wants to say they did that on purpose to make Seb look bad (or make him look worse if he already looks bad). And I know some people keep saying he didn't help her into the car, but it looks like he did, up until the point she released his hand and didn't need him anymore.

I'm sorry, I was just really analyzing this and wanted to get this off my chest lol.

Um...can't speak for outside the U.S., but the average age that women start bearing children has been rising for a decade now, it's pushing 30. More women have been delaying starting families. And birth rates are at an all time low because either they're starting way late and opting for one child or just remaining childfree altogether. Sooooo....yeah, she actually is acting her age there. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Also, I'm sorry, since when does being in your 40s automatically mean you have to be a serious person? Like....ew. Why? That's so boring.

Tea pleasse 🙏 don’t even know what this means lol tried how? Who started what?

Sorry I’m just now getting to this. I’m so tired you guys! Fatigue like the one I have is unreal. You have no idea. Then I remember i’m just dying lmao. Fuck. Anyway.

There’s been several from like 2015 to 2019. Nothing ever happened but when fans would flirt with him at the time, he was pretty alright with it at the time. I think I remember off the top of my head three specific fan scenarios where they asked him out and he almost said yes. He was different back then.

Also, some people had asked me what I meant about the response I said the other day when I said “and then the account that changed everything” or whatever lol but basically right before the Ellie shit happened, back when he was still quite active on social media and extremely friendly with fans, like super super friendly, and before he walked around like he had a stick up his little butt (lol) there was this account on instagram and I believe it was like the very first actually hate account that was ever made about him. They were calling him out for getting close to a certain group of fans/girls and after that was when he started pulling away. It was quite sad how it all went down.

People who are too invested in their relationship and constantly defend it online, want more content about them, and view them as a single entity - those are shippers. sebtwt hasn’t viewed them as separate individuals for a long time, and no, it’s not supporting the couple when you make a person’s achievements about their partner. In fact, they don’t respect Seb (even though they love to claim the opposite), constantly discussing his relationship, nor do they respect Annabelle, reducing her role solely to being his girlfriend and a source of content about him and his life. I'm not saying that people on non-shipper blogs are saints. The point is that we're all doing the same thing, talking about Sebastian and his personal life, and neither side is any better than the other.

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Anon, maybe you should change the name to just without brain, because Mod clearly already said multiples times that she does believe in this pregnancy.

All she did was make this blog a safe space for people to discuss it without judgement. Don’t be stupid.

Right.

and shipper is used to ship two fictional characters or maybe two people that aren’t together irl but they’re a couple, so how people can ship them ???? Like it doesn’t make any sense grow up