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There’s a point where I just question wether the whole Snape incel thing was spread by straight up misogyny.

Because Snape is the one character in the books whose motivation surrounds a woman. Which to the general audience (which is still influenced by deeply mysoginistic views of women) would seem like something incredibly unreasonable. Unthinkable even.

Imagine- a MAN 😨 grieving over his FEMALE 😨😨 FRIEND 😨😨😨

The core male audience would never be nice to a woman they cannot find attractive or wouldn’t shag, let alone see her as a human being they would dedicate their life to so they project those views onto Snape. Fabricating ulterior, despicable motives for him because they cannot comprehend even being actual friends with a woman.

They say he only cared about Lily because he wants to shag her… Even at the point where she is literally DEAD so there is literally nothing Snape could even get from her. Not to mention as soon as she told him to fuck off, he went ahead, apologized and never spoke to her again. So basically respected her wishes to not talk to him and moved on about his own life. (Also there is ZERO points in the book where he ever expresses sexual or romantic feelings for her. The only scene in the books which could be read as romantic is the patronus ‘always’ scene which is still arguable)

Even Voldemort expressed those views at the very end, which Harry calls him out on. So these men literally think like Voldemort.

Obviously antis spread that mysoginistic interpretation because their hate for the character blinds their judgement but isn’t that just so pathetic? Immediately assuming that a male character wants something sexual from a female (dead) friend just because they care about them too much? Because a man obviously would NEVER respect a female unless he finds her fuckable? Do women not get tired of spreading that narrative themselves?

Same thing with the Narcissa scene where she sobs on Snape and begs him to help her son is sexualized by the audience. A mother begging a man to help her because her son is gonna be pulled into a terrorist cult is SEXUALIZED. The scene where Snape literally tries to PUSH HER AWAY and sit her down.

Do people not get tired of women being sexualized? Sexualized when they are DEAD? Sexualized when they are BEGGING FOR HELP? And it all being unfairly projected by despicable men onto Snape (who’s canon book version would literally more likely be an aggressive misandrist)

There's a whole myriad of other reasons why Snape gave Harry his childhood memories, first and foremost probably being because Harry's a little dumb but he's not that dumb and if a Death Eater, one of Voldemort's closest followers, the murderer of Albus Dumbledore himself wrote Harry a note saying "kill urself lmao trust me it's the only way to get rid Voldie" do you think Harry would go "capital idea, let me throw myself off the Astronomy Tower just like you punted Dumbledore off it" No. One single memory of Dumbledore saying "I raised Harry as a pig for slaughter" isn't going to make Harry do shit; he needs to know that Snape was and still is working for the Light side by showing him why he's doing all of this.

Snape was not a victim any more than James was; they were equally shitty to each other.

Also, there is no excuse for bullying. There is never an excuse for bullying. And that’s what it was - because 4-on-1 isn’t anything except that.

Snape hung out with “future Death Eaters,” yes - the keyword there being future. As for the “love of his life” - this is also in the future, and James was bullying Snape long before he was interested in Lily. Lily had nothing to do with James’s motivations when it came to bullying Snape - James wasn’t bullying him because he somehow magically knew Snape would become a Death Eater or because Snape had insulted Lily. As Ndelphinus points out, “It’s more the fact he exists” is James’s rationale - because he can, because he doesn’t like Snape. (In fact, James was bullying Snape while Lily and Snape were still friends; we don’t know about hexing/jinxing, but the verbal exchange started on the train on the way to Hogwarts, as soon as Snape mentions Slytherin as a desirable thing, and their physical altercations start with James trying to trip Snape when he and Lily go to find another compartment - all because Snape has expressed a desire for Slytherin and insulted Gryffindor.) 

Snape is not a nice guy; Snape was a racist even when he was at school, and hung out with people who performed Dark Magic; he invented at least one Dark spell himself - but none of that is an excuse to constantly physically assault, verbally harass, and otherwise bully him.

Take a look at OotP: Sirius and James make the first move. James has a look of “avid anticipation” on his face when they see Snape; they’re the ones to approach. Snape expects an attack; this has happened before, and he reacts in defense. (Per JKR, the Pensieve is objective; this is not fallible or biased because the memory is Snape’s.) James Disarms Snape, then trips him, then gangs up on him with Sirius - turning him upside-down, scrubbing his mouth out with soap (despite comic portrayals in media, this is actually a very nasty punishment and can result in serious illness/vomiting), and is about to strip Snape of his underwear when the memory ends. Yes, Snape chooses Sectumsempra for self-defense - but he is trying to defend himself, even though he really has no chance.

How is this “banter”? How is this not bullying? If this was real life and you were Snape’s parent, would you say that’s a fair rivalry?

October 31st angst🪦