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Does anyone know why some of the corsairs look a little different? Like I have a few questions

What do the tail markings mean?

Like Jigsaw two has a big JW but Scotty and 5’s are small while Charlie just has a big NP. Skipper also has a small JW but the rudder is checkered. They are all the only ones to have them too while the rest don’t even have anything.

Like I can take a guess as to why Skipper’s is checkered (literally skipper) but I don’t know about the others.

What does the NP on Charlie’s stand for?? Is it short for Enterprise because that was probably their carrier? If so, why was it the carrier and not JW like everyone else? Is he a marine or so mething?

Are the rudder markings based on rank??? Why is it that only the ones that have the letters are acknowledged? did the squadron go through a scuffed transition to the ident on the tail leaving some without it? Am I overthinking this?

Also some of the corsairs are painted differently. If you look hard enough you’ll notice that like 29 and Jigsaw 2 are very different as well as some others. Like looking at this pic you can already see 29’s lighter part going higher than the planes in the background. Some seem darker than others like 15 and idk if it was just detail or there’s an actual explanation behind this

I’m not gonna point how skipper is wildly different in shade from the rest because skipper is skipper.

Some of them have Markings? Like Scotty and 36 have red lines and he and McKinley both have this boxy-ish outline right under their cockpits. You can see it in the above image on 29 and McKinley(19). But Scotty(below) has both of them as well as the small JW. It’s hard to see the red but it’s around the insignia

edit: after a quick google into the history of the insignia the red was originally an added outline but it got changed to blue sometime later so like

Are the red corsairs just older?? Even if they are why didn’t they get it repainted? Why is it just them that have the red? Maybe the red ones are just non-navy(maybe marine?)/came from another squadron and the original JWs just refused the red? (Apparently some pacific units actually did) what about the box? There’s still no answers to the box

Also just gonna point out: most of the jws actually have light blue outlines on their insignias compared to a darker one! It was mentioned some navy pacific aircraft had lighter outlines so damn

edit 2: ok after another trip to Google APPARENTLY white box things are just tape meant as a seal cause sometimes the Corsair fuel tanks would leak and splatter the canopy? And this problem was later resolved in newer ones

So maybe the boxed ones ARE just older?

Lmao, imagine being a Corsair on a recon flying and out of nowhere ur tank leaks and u pull a bulldog and when u get back to the carrier the solution is to just tape it up. And it happens to ur buddies too

The thing about the paint schemes and the tail letters still hasn’t been answered.

Thinking about this is keeping me up. It’s two am at the time I’m writing this.

Tail markings, aka tail codes\base codes:

We will start with the easy one, NP. NP is the base(stationing) code of the VC-3 UNIT, like the VC-4 (the Vought F4U) which is the plane they were all modeled after. Stationed in, you guessed it, the (North) Pacific ocean! And yes that's now, on modern (military) aircrafts, changed to base code NX.

So I believe NP is their base code, and because they are a unit, you only get 1 Base code. You get your unit marking worn by usually just the leader, and you get your Individual marking, which are the numbers they have. And that brings me to my theory on JW.

Like I said there's only 1 plane that bears the unit code, so JW is NOT the unit. Also because JW base code is for the fleet logistics support squadron 62 (way bigger/heavier planes)

That leaves me with common sense of the history and lore they give us, it's quite obvious when you think about it. They are based off the real ‘Jolly Rogers’ that are in this universe named, ‘Jolly Wrenchers’ when taken in abbreviation: ‘JW’. Are things clicking for you guys? Then it would make sense, aside from the skull and crossbones patches they have painted on ‘skull’ and wrenches, what other pride of their squadron can you wear? Your name of course. Which is why some will have it small, but they all have it in some way!

The paint jobs:

Red and blue, why? Well, easy! Supply, demand and most importantly, speed. In the beginning the US planes had blue coats, white stars, and to complete their flag, red stripes. And you are right that the red ones are the older ones, though not necessarily. There were two reasons to red being the older planes. At first when the planes were made, they had more time, and as the war went on the demand for new and more planes got higher and higher. Also red was used by the first manufacturer that provided the US with planes, when demand got far too much the US also got another company to make planes, that used a blue outline. So red was still manufactured alongside blue for a little while. Though! In September of 1943 red was fully surrendered and all new planes, and ones that could be afforded to repaint went blue. Which brings us to reason number two; also very importantly, because the Japanese used RED. And some US planes had friendly fire, due to the speed and distance it's hard to read the codes and numbers on a plane. So to avoid more friendly fire, they fully went to blue. As red was for Japan. So the light blue was for better visibility/identification.

Some minor things I want to air out before I hide away again:

The box/tape. It was indeed to keep leaks And loss of vision, but not just by oil, also by the humidity. Some, however, were also patches. Repairs from tears or bullet holes.

And the checkerboard rudder marking. A version of the Vought 4 was called ‘the independence’ and that model had the checkerboard paint job. But I think you're right as in that they gave it to skipper, due to being his name and also recognition as a main character.

They really did try and make it to reflect our history, and respected the plane of the Vought F4U corsair. The identification of the unit and the individual In markings was well done, even with some added extra of the big JW, which would be undone as there can only be ONE base, hehe. But I can forgive it, most references of these planes still on show today have their own rudder markings. And let's not forget, it just looks cool <3

my cars art gallery part two :>

Carstober day 4: Tunnel

Helicopters sliding around on deck.

Same submarine after getting the scare of his life having to be yelled to over comms by various other ships to put his weapons away.

Touching the spot is like activating the emergency button in Among Us as pissed / confused commotion flooding the halls as crew members pop out of various hatches and doors to see what the hell just happened, senior officers gathering to find out which idiot just touched it.

Yelling over radio about a “JET OVERBOARD! JET OVERBOARD!” and a ridiculously-sized life ring with magnets on it being thrown out.

Tower getting a full-on blackout for a second as it happens.

Two thrill seekers on deck laughing as they hang on while they get thrown the hardest they’ll ever experience.

The fighters in the hangar in a pile, swearing they hit the ceiling. There’s multiple forklifts trying to slowly pull them out like a very risky game of jenga.

Multiple soda cans rolling out of a vending machine in the galley, bursting on touch. All the food trays sliding down the chow line, some still with food on them.

There’s a giant pile of ceramic shards being swept up right under where everyone’s coffee cups used to hang. A crowd is mourning around it.

Dwight’s hat slightly falling over his eyes. He tries to subtly fix it by shifting around, but there’s not much you can really do as a boat. He throws his hat off on accident onto a poor helicopter right below. At this point, everyone can see that indeed, his hat has fallen. Luckily, his crew is there to help him out.

They have an unofficial code and procedure to scream over radio for when someone notices he’s about to sneeze. It becomes very apparent who the rookies are upon this call by the ones standing around in confusion as everyone else braces and an alarm they’ve never heard before blares.

Anyways I wonder if all the ships of his same class have the same problem.

That would be hilarious. The sister(brother?) ships meet up and the crews hosts open houses and first thing the engine mechanics do is find the spot of another ship.

-> I wasn't gonna take the Martin Mars into consideration because even though they're the biggest, Martin Mars aircraft is not amphibious like the CL-415 (Lil' Dipper), they always had to land in water. However @jigsaw173 posted this certain picture:

And in the picture you can see the Martin Mars aircraft has gears. Considering their size and huge weight, I'm considering they'd need the runway to be near or above 2,000 m cause landing and takeoff distances vary, and takeoff distance is often higher.

[Again, credits to: @jigsaw173 for finding this and posting it]

-> Ok now taking consideration of the largest jet seen at Piston peak would be Siddeley (or that guy who does look like Siddeley, if it's not him), his model is inspired by a Gulfstream V, whose takeoff distance is 1,570 m.

I don't know what to do with the lodge's runway, but if it's that long, then certainly the air attack team's base should've had such a long runway too.

anyone else randomly remember planes3 and metro (+ the rumored trains movie) and get rlly sad

I loved the characters. blaze, goblin, the blackbird, and the osprey. they were just so cool and they felt so… can’t remember the word is but DAMN, did the concept arts and everything make me feel so emotional. from what I’ve seen, the movie looked beautiful and you could tell they put some research into it. Being a huge avgeek with a thing for experimentals, the fact that this movie was centered around them made me so excited. it always makes me so sad seeing that it went nowhere 💔

Here's a big old rotating beacon on the ground in the hangar completely not rotating or beaconing rn. It's in the process of getting some tlc. Soon it will be back on the rooftop roating and beaconing!