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What antiâs think I said: Bro did nothing wrong!!!
What I actually said: stop demonizing one character and his fans for things that your favs also did!
Some internet Rando: BRO abused Dave!
Me: Mom Lalonde neglected her daughter to the point that Rose openly attempted suicide for attention in front of her. She chose booze over her kid, Grandpa Harley handed a loaded gun to a toddler. Hussie wrote commentary about Dad Egbert and how he constant forced cakes onto John despite John very clearly not wanting them. All of the beta guardians sucked and abused their kids in some way or another but yâall donât say shit about them. You just like to project hatred onto canonically queer male characters because of the toxic shit your brain has been fed by crazy people. Bro loved Dave. Bro loved Dave so much that he died for a Dave that wasnât even HIS Dave. Cry harder or actually read the comic maybe? Idk.
Internet Rando: SO?! KYS ABUSE APOLOGIST!!!
op how much meth are you taking
roses mom may have sucked and was neglectful but she still tried to show an interest in things rose liked. she was an alcoholic, not an evil person.
johns dad was eccentric but he loved john and was shown in the comics to care about him. he was trying to show his love.
grandpa shouldn't have given guns to jade, but that's literally 1 single thing and something a lot of americans aren't strangers to lmfao.
people don't hate bro because he's gay, for fucks sake. i'm a queer male and i can say with absolute certainty that bro was awful fucking representation. hussie doesn't care about bro being gay or abusive. bro was abusive as fuck and people have a right to talk about it because his behaviour was fucking disgusting. gay people are not immune from criticism. especially not when they abuse their child physically, mentally and emotionally for years.
daves abuse is the most fleshed out and talked about in the comic so people have a fucking right to take it more seriously than johns dad giving him cakes. shit that downplays bros abuse only encourages brodave shippers to carry on in their sick fucking ways because "it isn't that bad guys!!!"
for someone who's asking others to read the comic, you're clueless yourself.
First and foremost, youâre openly excusing the abuse of the other children âthis character did do (insert incredibly damaging thing) BUT-â Youâre excusing abuse regardless. Youâre just cherry-picking.
Johns dad throwing cake at him is physical abuse. If someone was throwing things at you that you didnât want everyday and hitting you with them, youâd call it physical abuse. Itâs also emotionally manipulative because heâs obviously meant to find these things funny and he struggles with reconciling between âI said I donât want thisâ and âit should be funny. My dad thinks itâs funny. I should be laughing.â That isnât eccentric. That deliberately ignoring your childâs wish for boundaries and in fact is emotional warfare.
Mom Lalonde was an alcoholic. She drank herself stupid. She ignored her childâs pleas for help so throughly because of her dependency that she had more interest in cats and vacuuming than her own daughter. She was not showing interest in what he daughter liked. Rose was mimicking the interests of her mother in a desperate attempt to gain attention. Just like she did when she OPENLY ATTEMPTS SUICIDE and it once again, ignored. Neglect is a nasty thing and you obviously donât understand the long lasting issues that come with being neglected. Itâs emotionally and mentally draining to a point where you donât feel seen and eventually believe that itâs better to be dead than lonely. Mom Lalonde May never lift a hand towards her daughter (or for her either) but her abuse is direct and extremely prevalent so much so that rose, a child, takes on those same coping mechanisms and becomes an alcoholic herself.
Grandpa Harley. Well. Fam. This one is looked over so vastly. He gives a gun. To a baby. And lets the baby play with an alien dog. By herself. With said gun. Bro. People donât leave babies alone with guns. People donât leave children an attended on islands with GUNS. And you saying that itâs just something else Americans are used to is GARBAGE. you would be fucking crucified for leaving a child alone the way he does. You would have that child ripped from you if people knew you were just letting a baby play with a loaded fucking gun. But I mean according to you infants playing Russian roulettes normal. This bullshit is literally the reason this dumb motherfucker dies and leaves jade to grow up in a house completely isolated from the rest of the world. Bec is the only reason she survived. She may seem happy but let me tell you something about depression and smiles my friend. WHOO BOY sometimes the bigger the smile the more likely they are to be suffering.
Let me tell you something. Bro is the only and I mean only guardian that openly provides thier child with things that are to thier interest. Dave has a camera, and turntables, and thereâs proof that bro reads his childâs comic. He engages with his childâs interests in a very real tangible way. His training sessions were due to the fact that he knew the world was going to end. He pulled Dave up to the roof to try to provide a child with the necessary ability to fight in a game that literally was going to try and kill him. Bro saw the end and prepared. And in the end Bro stepped in to give his life for a Dave that wasnât even his Dave. And davesprite LOVED bro. Davesprite understood what that action meant. Davesprite mourned the loss of his parental figure in ways that canon Dave didnât because canon Dave wasnât able to reconcile th was ideas because Dave has issues processing grief. Bro isnât faultless but NONE of them are.
This isnât about shipping wars. This isnât about you pointing fingers and wagging your holier than thou ideals into peopleâs face and calling them disgusting. Youâre prioritizing the feelings and emotional state of FICTIONAL characters over real people. Your cherry-picking is a very obvious attempt at sidestepping the real problems and focusing on one particular guardian. âShit that downplays broâs abuseâ nah bro. Shit that downplays ABUSE. Like you did. Daveâs abuse isnât the most fleshed out. Daveâs abusenis the most talked about in fandom. Thatâs it. Dave is a character that people identify heavily with or want to be like in many ways and yâall are so desperate to be victims that you apply wrong doings of fictional characters to yourself. You have to have someone to blame and Bros the easiest target in that pool.
You arenât being objective. You arenât proving anything. Youâre excusing abuse in one breath and damning others for abuse in the next. I strongly urge you to look at why you chose to do that and why itâs only bro you chose to condemn.
Op isnât the clueless one. And I have to agree, if youâre still stuck on bro being the only bad guy here? You should read the comic again.
And let me just leave you on this note. Itâs fiction bro. It ainât real and in the end it doesnât and will never matter more than real people. Stop advocating for fictional characters and try actually speaking up for abuse victims in real life. If you applied your passes to the guardians to actual adults and thier children, youâd be the abuse apologist. But I guess that doesnât matter either.
Have a good day.
how the fuck am i the abuse apologist when you retards are downplaying daves abuse by saying bro loved him. bro may have loved him but he was still fucking sick. dont claim âits fiction broâ when youâre the ones jumping through fucking hoops to excuse bros actions just so you can justify drawing stridercest to yourself. no, none of them are faultless but that doesnt change the fact that youâre working fucking hard to excuse bro above anyone else.
i AM an abuse victim. itd take a fucking novel to unpack the shit ive been through. thatâs why i dont tolerate this bullshit. so donât you fucking dare tell me to speak up for abuse victims in real life because iâd like to see what the fuck youâre doing other than crying on tumblr because someone thinks you shouldnât ship incest.
And you got completely tilted when I was speaking to you calmly. I said you were an abuse apologist for literally excusing three cases of abuse in favor of heaping blame on a single individual. Or did you skip over everything I said and go for the one thing that you could attempt to find some issue with? You literally made a post excusing three characters who are blatantly abusing thier children and youâre taking offense to me telling you thatâs what you did.
I also never said anything about incest in this bro. I said ABUSE. I donât care about your stupid quibbling about shipping. I donât give a fuck.
Horray! you get a gold star for being an abuse victim join the fucking club. The difference here is Iâm openly addressing all of the issues with all of the characters flaws while you blindly and systematically erase the legitimate damage three characters did to other to further your narrative while throwing around the r slur.
You donât get to speak for abuse victims as a whole. Speak for yourself but abuse is different and personal to each individual deaigneither trauma. Your trauma is not mine and mine is not yours. Stop trying to make your experience universal. It isnât.
I donât care if you didnât think I should ship incest? I care about you saying that one characters abuse is the only highlighted abuse and you calmly brushing the rest of the issues under the rug âBECAUSE THEY DONT PRETAIN TO ME AND MY TRAUMA SO THEY ARENT AS BAD! đ đ€â
Posted this on my main. Trying to keep homestuck here.
Some internet Rando: BRO abused Dave!
Me: Mom Lalonde neglected her daughter to the point that Rose openly attempted suicide for attention in front of her. She chose booze over her kid, Grandpa Harley handed a loaded gun to a toddler. Hussie wrote commentary about Dad Egbert and how he constant forced cakes onto John despite John very clearly not wanting them. All of the beta guardians sucked and abused their kids in some way or another but yâall donât say shit about them. You just like to project hatred onto canonically queer male characters because of the toxic shit your brain has been fed by crazy people. Bro loved Dave. Bro loved Dave so much that he died for a Dave that wasnât even HIS Dave. Cry harder or actually read the comic maybe? Idk.
Internet Rando: SO?! KYS ABUSE APOLOGIST!!!
op how much meth are you taking
roses mom may have sucked and was neglectful but she still tried to show an interest in things rose liked. she was an alcoholic, not an evil person.
johns dad was eccentric but he loved john and was shown in the comics to care about him. he was trying to show his love.
grandpa shouldn't have given guns to jade, but that's literally 1 single thing and something a lot of americans aren't strangers to lmfao.
people don't hate bro because he's gay, for fucks sake. i'm a queer male and i can say with absolute certainty that bro was awful fucking representation. hussie doesn't care about bro being gay or abusive. bro was abusive as fuck and people have a right to talk about it because his behaviour was fucking disgusting. gay people are not immune from criticism. especially not when they abuse their child physically, mentally and emotionally for years.
daves abuse is the most fleshed out and talked about in the comic so people have a fucking right to take it more seriously than johns dad giving him cakes. shit that downplays bros abuse only encourages brodave shippers to carry on in their sick fucking ways because "it isn't that bad guys!!!"
for someone who's asking others to read the comic, you're clueless yourself.
after further digging, i see you actually do ship stridercest! so let me update this post for you: get help you pedo and incest apologist. i'm not surprised at your level of fucking idiocy now that i realise who you are. fuck you for trying this shit.
Bro. You donât know the first thing about people and thier connections to media. Heâs not a pedophile. And heâs not an incest apologist. These characters are just that. Characters. Fictional. He does not ship children. Not now nor ever. This creator has been through more than you can imagine and you attacking him for this shows you really donât give a shit about trauma. At least not when it doesnât directly affect yours.
Throwing around the word pedophile is devaluing the actual meaning and weight of this word. Pedophiles are real but people who ship incest are not and have never been inherently pedophiles.
Therapists after being told thier client ships incest: âthatâs a healthy way to explore what happened to you in a safe environment. Keep doing that.â
You: fuck you incest shipper! Youâre disgusting and a pedophile.
But I mean. Fuck people who are trying to cope, right? Letâs call them things and equate thier trauma to them being the abuser. Letâs compound that trauma by making them believe that Adressing and exploring trauma is a fictional context is abusive. Letâs in no shorter words call them their abuser or worse than thier abuser. Letâs tell them they deserve their abuse for coping, right?
Jesus Christ. Get a hobby. Go outside. Help actual people. Stop trying to pretend that fictional characters are more important than the creators behind the content.
Some internet Rando: BRO abused Dave!
Me: Mom Lalonde neglected her daughter to the point that Rose openly attempted suicide for attention in front of her. She chose booze over her kid, Grandpa Harley handed a loaded gun to a toddler. Hussie wrote commentary about Dad Egbert and how he constant forced cakes onto John despite John very clearly not wanting them. All of the beta guardians sucked and abused their kids in some way or another but yâall donât say shit about them. You just like to project hatred onto canonically queer male characters because of the toxic shit your brain has been fed by crazy people. Bro loved Dave. Bro loved Dave so much that he died for a Dave that wasnât even HIS Dave. Cry harder or actually read the comic maybe? Idk.
Internet Rando: SO?! KYS ABUSE APOLOGIST!!!
op how much meth are you taking
roses mom may have sucked and was neglectful but she still tried to show an interest in things rose liked. she was an alcoholic, not an evil person.
johns dad was eccentric but he loved john and was shown in the comics to care about him. he was trying to show his love.
grandpa shouldn't have given guns to jade, but that's literally 1 single thing and something a lot of americans aren't strangers to lmfao.
people don't hate bro because he's gay, for fucks sake. i'm a queer male and i can say with absolute certainty that bro was awful fucking representation. hussie doesn't care about bro being gay or abusive. bro was abusive as fuck and people have a right to talk about it because his behaviour was fucking disgusting. gay people are not immune from criticism. especially not when they abuse their child physically, mentally and emotionally for years.
daves abuse is the most fleshed out and talked about in the comic so people have a fucking right to take it more seriously than johns dad giving him cakes. shit that downplays bros abuse only encourages brodave shippers to carry on in their sick fucking ways because "it isn't that bad guys!!!"
for someone who's asking others to read the comic, you're clueless yourself.
First and foremost, youâre openly excusing the abuse of the other children âthis character did do (insert incredibly damaging thing) BUT-â Youâre excusing abuse regardless. Youâre just cherry-picking.
Johns dad throwing cake at him is physical abuse. If someone was throwing things at you that you didnât want everyday and hitting you with them, youâd call it physical abuse. Itâs also emotionally manipulative because heâs obviously meant to find these things funny and he struggles with reconciling between âI said I donât want thisâ and âit should be funny. My dad thinks itâs funny. I should be laughing.â That isnât eccentric. That deliberately ignoring your childâs wish for boundaries and in fact is emotional warfare.
Mom Lalonde was an alcoholic. She drank herself stupid. She ignored her childâs pleas for help so throughly because of her dependency that she had more interest in cats and vacuuming than her own daughter. She was not showing interest in what he daughter liked. Rose was mimicking the interests of her mother in a desperate attempt to gain attention. Just like she did when she OPENLY ATTEMPTS SUICIDE and it once again, ignored. Neglect is a nasty thing and you obviously donât understand the long lasting issues that come with being neglected. Itâs emotionally and mentally draining to a point where you donât feel seen and eventually believe that itâs better to be dead than lonely. Mom Lalonde May never lift a hand towards her daughter (or for her either) but her abuse is direct and extremely prevalent so much so that rose, a child, takes on those same coping mechanisms and becomes an alcoholic herself.
Grandpa Harley. Well. Fam. This one is looked over so vastly. He gives a gun. To a baby. And lets the baby play with an alien dog. By herself. With said gun. Bro. People donât leave babies alone with guns. People donât leave children an attended on islands with GUNS. And you saying that itâs just something else Americans are used to is GARBAGE. you would be fucking crucified for leaving a child alone the way he does. You would have that child ripped from you if people knew you were just letting a baby play with a loaded fucking gun. But I mean according to you infants playing Russian roulettes normal. This bullshit is literally the reason this dumb motherfucker dies and leaves jade to grow up in a house completely isolated from the rest of the world. Bec is the only reason she survived. She may seem happy but let me tell you something about depression and smiles my friend. WHOO BOY sometimes the bigger the smile the more likely they are to be suffering.
Let me tell you something. Bro is the only and I mean only guardian that openly provides thier child with things that are to thier interest. Dave has a camera, and turntables, and thereâs proof that bro reads his childâs comic. He engages with his childâs interests in a very real tangible way. His training sessions were due to the fact that he knew the world was going to end. He pulled Dave up to the roof to try to provide a child with the necessary ability to fight in a game that literally was going to try and kill him. Bro saw the end and prepared. And in the end Bro stepped in to give his life for a Dave that wasnât even his Dave. And davesprite LOVED bro. Davesprite understood what that action meant. Davesprite mourned the loss of his parental figure in ways that canon Dave didnât because canon Dave wasnât able to reconcile th was ideas because Dave has issues processing grief. Bro isnât faultless but NONE of them are.
This isnât about shipping wars. This isnât about you pointing fingers and wagging your holier than thou ideals into peopleâs face and calling them disgusting. Youâre prioritizing the feelings and emotional state of FICTIONAL characters over real people. Your cherry-picking is a very obvious attempt at sidestepping the real problems and focusing on one particular guardian. âShit that downplays broâs abuseâ nah bro. Shit that downplays ABUSE. Like you did. Daveâs abuse isnât the most fleshed out. Daveâs abusenis the most talked about in fandom. Thatâs it. Dave is a character that people identify heavily with or want to be like in many ways and yâall are so desperate to be victims that you apply wrong doings of fictional characters to yourself. You have to have someone to blame and Bros the easiest target in that pool.
You arenât being objective. You arenât proving anything. Youâre excusing abuse in one breath and damning others for abuse in the next. I strongly urge you to look at why you chose to do that and why itâs only bro you chose to condemn.
Op isnât the clueless one. And I have to agree, if youâre still stuck on bro being the only bad guy here? You should read the comic again.
And let me just leave you on this note. Itâs fiction bro. It ainât real and in the end it doesnât and will never matter more than real people. Stop advocating for fictional characters and try actually speaking up for abuse victims in real life. If you applied your passes to the guardians to actual adults and thier children, youâd be the abuse apologist. But I guess that doesnât matter either.
Have a good day.

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my homestuck troll typing quirk would be that i type ev*ry wo//rd l*ke i d.nt w/a/n/t it to sh*w up in tum.blr sea//rch res/ults
One of my pet theories is actually that typing quirks already serve as a protective measure against surveillance/wiretapping. Youâre less likely to get culled for sedition if the webcrawlers canât pick suspicious keywords out of your text.
head canon accepted
Does This Mean Kanaya Has No Fucks To Give And Is Tacitly Daring The Powers That Be To Just Try And Cull Her?
Well it would be in character
meanwhile Karkat âMaster of Secrecyâ karkat just types in allcaps because he legitimately doesnât realize how easy that is to parse
I like this headcanon more and more as it goes on
being okay is revenge