Hellfire Confessions

Eron here, I was originally going to move past this but reading this one made me laugh. I don’t know when making one profile and directing someone to the correct channel became, “A lot was their idea.”. In fact, I was removed from staff because I was being more active in Hellfire than your server. I will admit, I was petty to report everything ya’ll were stealing from Hellfire (I am, so “sorry” I didn’t just talk to you about your mission to make a “better version of Hellfire”). Getting that on video was very satisfying. It’s a shame it got deleted with the rest of Hellfire, would have loved to add some of that proof and info I got. I was promoted because I got many reports done at a time but couldn’t officially finish them until a Sr.Admin+ looked it over. I will admit after some time I did fall off the face of the internet, I got quite busy with irl and quite honestly couldn’t bring myself to open my computer. I was very surprised to get VIP but it’s because I had done good work for them when I did have the time, it is a shame to see how it all went down and see a place that had been the start of great stories and friendships, as well as the end of some of them. That is all I had to add, I have had my issues with dragonstar, acethephoenix, and legionajax. But, there is no need for me to add to the flames here… Ya’ll be safe ^^

Funny how you had to make a throwaway tumblr acc just to talk mad shit on someone and say they have 10+ discord accs with no proof or evidence other than “uwu they dont talk in vc and are good at utah” — bffr dude, we all know who you are and its just sad atp lmfao.

Side note— if you’re comfortable enough to expose children to graphic depictions of pregnancy, live birth, non con, and bestiality/NSFW, then you’re in support of it, because you obviously think its acceptable to expose people as young as 14 years old to those things.

It was wrong, it was predatory behavior, and anyone who says otherwise is in support of what they did in its entirety, end of story.

Lets not forget that this isnt guris only instance of exposing children to this sort of content.

btw lets not forget that Kaikyu has like 15 dis acswheres proof? i mean how many of this disc acs has he had in hellfire alone?

xurco

vlone

xavi

voldex

zoke

enzo

zoroo

their all the sameone appears other disappears when one is ban a new 1 emerges they were never around at the same time  none of them ever spoke in vcall were crazy good at utah for no reasonthey all spoke with the same manners an all had similar profile pics or about mes all they did was join lots of utah packs make fun of people in them rule broke on peopleso the ai photos where they made their pfp into guris all he does is start drama bc its funny to himtheirs probably more acs out there dudes hella weirdthat 1 time he was caught linking his steam ac to his new disc but staff never ban to then staff conveniently hid that channel

Be wary of shit talking other people, even while in a group of like minded people. You never know whose gonna develop a guilty conscience and out you to the world. Your chat room is never private and people will find out. Karmas a bitch.

For some additional context before seranova started both sides of this whole debacle were in sustrai. I cannot prove any of this, as most of these conversations happened over voice chat or have been lost to the sands of time and deletion of group chats, so take this all with a grain of salt.

Bunnis friend group (the one who owned sustrai and created the group that the screenshots came from I don’t remember the name something with a D) and guris friend group did NOT like each other. There was lots of passive aggression on both fronts and it was painfully obvious.

Both sides were frequently submitting reports and concerns about the other side and both sides were trying incredibly hard to get the other banned. This conflict goes so much deeper than just the docs that Guri wrote and kinda became a personal shit slinging contest between the two sides. Which honestly, given the history of these two it doesn’t surprise me in the least that they tried faking screenshots to try and ensure the parties they were targeting got banned. Shit had been brewing for well over a year. It was only a matter of time.

And what really truly gets me at the end of the day is if bunnis group had just reported the docs as they were. If they didn’t try to fake evidence. If they didn’t excessively shit talk people to the point of making some of their own feel guilty enough to document what was going on, they probably would have won and we probably wouldn’t be here on this tumblr right now.

Moral of the story? Uhh. Fuck I ain’t got one.

Kai was having an actual convo with moth, where they were being weird ash. There are other screenshots of the conversation that are clearly not faked. Sketchy wasnt being truthful in how they painted the picture lmfao.

tw for mentions of adult topics / themes. ' you forgot the username. ' speaks for itself.

Representing the 3rd party people i recommend obs recording conversations that can still be found if yall ever want to prove it directly. can upload it thru youtube as public or unlisted(makes it link only accesible) and ill post it in here for yall too

Now granted, the things I have wrote have only ever been posted to Ao3 where shit like that can be properly flagged/tagged and labeled as nsfw. Guri shouldn’t have posted that doc to the group and I don’t think anyone should be defending that. But to imply they are a pedo/zoo/groomer for writing a piece of fiction that includes those things, however minor they may be, in my mind shows a general immaturity in people, and an inability to remove fiction from reality.

I think it’s also important to note that English is not their first language. And the way they write stuff has always sounded off. I think they try to make their writing more flowery to make up for the fact that their phrasing can be a bit off and stilted. Which can lead to a large gap and misunderstanding of how things are supposed to be interpreted. They have routinely said things during gameplay like “I don’t know how to say this in English” because the translation from Spanish to English isn’t one to one.

That’s just my hot take.

the writing take is more nuanced than people give it credit for granted, for that point i think end of day it winds down to what people individually think. Writing CAN have these topics and theres alot of stories that use it well while still making it known that the action itself is bad. Guri has made this point themselves using Game of Thrones, while i personally think it doesn't validate the writing i can see WHY writing about pedo/zoo topics is not being treated as cut and dry as the action themselves.

I think the questions come down to 'Are these problematic situations shown in a positive light?' and 'Could this story be written differently without the problematic situations and still be the same story?' These are topics that unless you know how to incorporate them into your story without promoting/supporting the actions themselves, shouldn't be touched in general.

I personally put very little weight into the language barrier because even after native english speakers have explained why it's recieving backlash Guri is just doubling down on what they really meant. When people come with screenshots and direct quotes though it's hard to deny that the writing was excessively explicit, especially with a server that had minors. Basing it only off what i've seen through the blog, Guri's apology post here while not perfect english does show really good understanding of words, just not conjunctions. People are responsible for their own actions and will be judged for those actions regardless of actual intent, they might not have meant for it to come off creepy but *it did* in a server with minors

feel free to resubmit screens or add any missing as well since its been a hot minute! i dont forgive one party's actions cause the other's were also bad