GrumpyFemboy

Because there have been SO many Jokers throughout history, I knew I wouldn't want to draw every single Joker ever. So I set up some basic rules:

1. No parody versions.

2. No weird experimental elseworld versions, unless they are really huge and mainstream such as The Dark Knight Returns, Brian Azzarello's Joker, or the 2019 Joker movie.

3. No smaller/less known versions that could just add confusion or make it too derivative.

So instead, I opted for the most significant Jokers. The ones trying to do their own take on the actual Joker, in his iconic costume (or an as close approximation of it as the material offers). This is also why I didn't give A Death in the Family Joker the mechanic costume he wears while beating Jason Todd, for instance.

And before any pedantic nitpicker points it out: The years I put on each one isn't for when the comic/game/show/movie came out, but when Joker appeared in it.

Nowadays with Deadpool, though? I don't support it. Because not only do they never ever DO anything with it, but it completely contradicts his character in 616 Marvel comics.

He was always depicted as heterosexual in the comics. Even imagining his ideal afterlife, he was surrounded by sexy hot women. Because that's what he always loves imagining. Never any sexy hot men. And this is consistent.

Whenever he allegedly shows attraction towards male characters, it's just a joke. Either it's Deadpool making a gay joke, or it's the writer making a gay joke with him.

Every single love interest Deadpool ever had has a female body type. No, I'm not trying to reduce Valentine down to their body, but I'm saying there's nothing that says you can't be a heterosexual man and still be interested in dating them.

There is this one comic page showing Deadpool and Ice-Man after having sex... but that's an alternate future elseworld thing, NOT 616 canon. And it ends with the punchline for a joke. So, again, it's just a gay joke.

If you are going to make Deadpool pansexual, actually make him pansexual. Because this is just stupid.

But as it is, just let him be heterosexual. There's nothing wrong with that. It honestly just feels like they're scared of letting him be that because they want to get away with making dumb gay jokes with him.

Case in point, these two pictures. Punisher covers AT LEAST 75% of his cheeks, while Sue Storm REVEALS that amount. And she stands in a sexy pose perking out her butt, while Punisher assumes a more imposing tough "no-nonsense" pose clearly not compromising and clearly not intended to look sexy.

Yes, you can FIND him sexy, and he DOES wear revealing clothes. But he isn't really sexualized. Sexualization isn't about how much clothes you wear, but about WHAT you wear, how you present yourself, and how is it framed.

If what you wear is intentionally designed to be sexy, and your posture and framing is intentionally making you appear more sexy, then you're sexualized from a gaming perspective as a character.

I keep desperately looking for information about it, but all I can find is that no one so far knows. They seem to just mostly be focusing on the upcoming next Michael Bay movie... and, I really, REALLY hate the Michael Bay movies.

I actually consider the ones not directed by Michael Bay as their own canon, MY preferred canon, that I want to see continued (yes, I count in Transformers One there, that's my head canon).

Why does James Gunn obsess SO much over including heterosexual romances in his stuff, yet he keeps being terrified of having ANY gay male inclusion whatsoever?

Guardians of the Galaxy 1-3, The Suicide Squad, Peacemaker, Creature Commandos, Superman 2025... the closest we get is Peacemaker being bisexual, and that is ONLY because John Cena INSISTED.

James Gunn seems to be genuinely uncomfortable with gay male stuff... not to mention, any type of male sexualization that isn't just abs and pecks and bulges. The only times I've seen him show off any male butt are twice in episode 2 of Creature Commandos... both times being when a guy pounds a girl (one of which being James Gunn's obvious self-insert Rick Flag Sr).

Yet, with female characters, he shows off their asses all the time left and right, naked and in tights and thongs. As if he worries about that being "gay" too.

Meanwhile, Cosmic Odyssey in 1988, before Death of Superman:

What I wouldn't give for a whole movie of a male character looking this sexy and gorgeous while also being allowed to be openly gay...

Here are some Hero Forge figures I have been creating and ordered after.