MCU but just the superhero community being horrified and confused by how vigilantes operate. Explained by Spider-Man whoās been doing this shit since he was 14.
The Avengers need to team up with vigilantes, after the Sokoiva accordās drama they try to work with smaller heroās for PR and to understand street level culture. They of course ask the Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man since he knows Iron Manās and seems talkative enough in addition to knowing everyone.
Spider-Man is a high-schooler with criminal connections, radioactive DNA and a mild concussion. he had no fucking idea why the Avengers are talking to him. He only helped Iron Man to get him off his ass so he wouldnāt snitch to his aunt.
Spider-Man has no jurisdiction, Spider-Man does not give a fuck who has jurisdiction. But also you need to respect the jurisdiction. There are levels to this shit.
Spider-Man is a well known New York vigilante. Thereās no official qualifications to be one and nobody ever officially certifies you. You just do what you want to do and you know youāve made it when you start getting a designated press companyās to slander youāre name or when youāre enemies start to get elaborate themeās. There should be forums and community who monitor vigilante activity, maybe they have little markers for potential long term vigilantes like the one year mark or surviving your first alien invasion but otherwise it alls very arbitrary. Regardless itās obvious Spider-Man is legit and not going anywhere.
Spider-Man explains that he operates in Queens, but Manhattan is free game. Technically heās a New York vigilant so heās not really bound to any one specific borough. But like if anyone asks for him heās in Queens thatās his turf. You gotta respect the turf. Again there are levels to this shit. Nobody fucking respects the turf.
He argues that, no heās not being weird. Thatās how vigilantes operate they donāt do well in groups and close proximity. The back bone of vigilante culture is you gotta be able to handle your shit. The only way you become a vigilante is by living long enough and pissing enough people off to be considered one. The requirement isnāt having superpowers or being strong or lethal , itās literally just getting back up after you get laid out.
The Avengers are a little confused but canāt disagree since they donāt know how they work. They are used to the structure of SHEILD missions. They ask whoās in charge
Spider-Man looks offended at that question. Nobodyās in charge, thereās no offical rankings. Everyone just does their own thing and unless youāre pissing off other people thereās no reason to try and extent authority. None of the vigilantes respect authority, all vigilantes are assholes none of them have authority or any sense of self preservation. If youāre lucky you wonāt interact with another vigilante, unfortunately all vigilantes are connected through a string of cruel fate to accidentally meet. Vigilanteās fall into two categories of fucking assholes or little shits, regardless they tend to be pretty decent people.
This Is all just one giant pissing contest of who can get their goals completed while staying out of jail and being somewhat alive. You donāt have authority, you will eventually piss off another vigilante and this will lead to mutual respect if you both make it out alive with your goals somewhat accomplished. You might hate eachother or become best buddies or both simultaneously but competence is the determining factor.
Spider-Man explains Harlem is for Luke Cage but heās not really a hero. Yes he knows Luke is called Harlemās hero but Luke has an identity thing going on okay. Itās not polite to pressure enhanced people into taking the hero mantle. Heās like a Good Samaritan/vigilante/ hero but donāt pry. Depending on what stage of the identity conflict heās on he will accept the term hero or beat you for saying that.
Chinatown is for Danny Rand, He has a secret identity but itās really bad secret like literally everyone knows it. No heās not a vigilante heās got monk things going on and a fist that glows but donāt bring it up in-front of people it was a whole thing last time. He does martial art or whatever and heās super rich youāll know itās him because he canāt control his volume and we just recently got him to start wearing shoes.
Hellās Kitchen is for Daredevil, Yes Spider-Man knows his secret identity but heās not gonna tell you seriously donāt ask him? Itās so rude to snitch on people whereās youār sense of cape community? Secret identity shenanigans are the founding pillars of vigilantism? Look Daredevil takes weird breaks okay so just donāt send him spiraling he has a guilt complex thing and he bites so just donāt piss him off. His default setting is angry omnipotent asshole. Yes daredevil is strangely nice to Spider-Man but this is an outlier not the status quo. Donāt talk shit about him heāll find out and also he thrives on chaos heās surprisingly willing to do stupid shit with you if you ask nicely.
Also Jessica Jones technically inhabits Hellās Kitchen but sheās not really about that hero life sheās a private investigator itās different. Like sheāll help people but very begrudgingly and often while drunk but just ignore her for the most part unless you have something sheāll want in exchange. Youāve gotta get on her good side but thatās not something you can force all vigilante friendships are avoidant truma bonds thy occur when you have to kill dinosaurs together.
Also vigilantes donāt do friends. Except for Spider-Man he has a shit ton of vigaintes friends. Friendship in the vigilante community happens through osmosis of whatever toxic fumes youāre being exposed to in the sewers.
Yes all of the mentioned people know each other but itās different. Look no theyāre not in cahoots okay you need to understand they know each other and they arenāt enemyās but they also arenāt really friends but they trust each other but also they dont want to work together at all. Their a lot of very complex dynamics at play that rely on the mutual understanding of how mentally unhinged everyone in the vigainte community can be.
Spider-Man explains you canāt go into Hellās Kitchen, youāll piss off Daredevil. Itās just like common courtesy, okay you canāt fuck around in another vigilantes territory. No itās not specifically assigned to any vigilante but like you just need to know who protects what. Nobody tells you about this stuff but one day youāll wander into a borough at 2AM and get a baton to the temple as an introduction. If youāre quips are funny enough and and youāre heart is pure you might be allowed back inside.
Yes Daredevil knows Spider-Man was fighting Kingpin in Hellās Kitchen last week thatās different. No trust him, nobody likes Fisk thatās fair game you can fight Fisk anywhere. Also Spider-Man got ran over like four times with a tank when you get injured enough itās like a pass to enter other vigilantes spaces.
Spider-Man should be exasperated explaining that no you donāt understand it was a Midday unplanned fight with kingpin where he was really injured Daredevil wonāt care itās different.
Also the dumpsters are free rein. You can pass out in any alleyway or dumpster you want itās a god given right. All vigilantes, anti-heroās, superheroās and capes are entitled to bleeding out in a back alleyways. Disgusting blood soaked pavement is the foundation of this community.
Thereās also anti-heroās like The Punisher. Spider-Man thinks heās a criminally insane public threat who needs psychological help but heās able to handle himself and Spiderman doesnāt want a bullet in his side so they stay out of each others ways. Thereās also mercenaryās like Deadpool but you canāt really befriend them? They do their thing and you can try to stop it from happening but antagonizing them unprovoked isnāt the best idea.
This isnāt to say he lets them do whatever because he has a moral obligation to protect but he doesnāt actively go out to hunt the person does this make sense?
The avengers think Spider-Man is spouting shit because nothing he says is coherent or makes sense but he says it with such conviction.