There is a – as of this moment – 11k note post by @princessbubblegumandjustice that lists an evil and disgusting community of abusers that are sharing disturbing images concerning children. I have just been privately made aware of it.

(Yes, I am avoiding specific terms that others may have blacklisted so as many people as possible see it. I apologise, but I don’t know what else to do.)

I am not going to link the post, and will now explain why.

Bubblegum, as far as I’m aware, is a good person trying to do a very good thing, and I in no way am hating her in the slightest. I think that she’s a good person, but she has made a terrible, terrible (and totally accidental) mistake.

The list that she has compiled is excellent so that the authorities can investigate.

The list that she shared to Tumblr is dangerous.

I am not kidding.

Any predatory individual that is looking for CP has to do nothing but remember one of those urls, go to a public library, use a free proxy site, and from there, will be able to contact someone to access images. Without being traced.

It looks like a good idea, but whilst good people are trying to spread what they think is right, predators can use that list to abuse and spread more abuse.

The list needs to be saved in private so that the authorities can investigate and make arrests. The list needs to be eradicated from the public sphere to protect children and to stop predators from using it as a tool to spread and share in more abuse.

Please, please delete any reblogs of that post. Remove that post.

With all respect to Bubblegum, if we report that single post to Tumblr so it can be wiped from the site, that would be a very good thing.

The pastebin list needs to be deleted, too.

I am literally begging all of you. Love me, hate me, wish me dead, I literally do not care whether you’re a far-Right or far-Left or spread hate or literally whatever else, we can surely all agree that we need to do what we can to protect children.

I never, ever tag blogs to try and signal boost anything, but I’m breaking that rule here because it is so, so important.

Please reblog and delete those posts!

And if you literally cannot stand having a post by me on your blog, make your own version! I don’t care! Claim it’s your idea to take it down, my ego is not important and this information is!

@takashi0 @cisnowflake @nunyabizni @fandomsandfeminism @tooiconic @celtyradfem @siryouarebeingmocked @cheshireinthemiddle

However, as a bisexual dude, I can observe that many of the arguments that are employed to establish that ace folks have no place in the queer community are strikingly similar - indeed, at times practically word-for-word identical - to the arguments that were for many years (and in some circles still are) employed to establish that bisexual folks have no place in the queer community.

The Passing Argument

It has been argued that bisexual folks don’t have any grounds to complain about discrimination and violence suffered in relation to their orientation, because a bisexual person is able to pass as straight simply by choosing partners of the appropriate gender. Therefore, any discrimination and violence that a bisexual person does experience must be construed as voluntarily undertaken, since they could have passed, and freely chose not to.

This argument is similarly applied to ace folks via the assertion that being ace poses no particular barrier to seeking a partner of a socially acceptable gender, so any failure to do so must likewise be construed as voluntary.

The Performativity Argument

It has been argued that bisexual folks ought to be excluded from queer communities because sexual orientation is purely performative; i.e., being gay is defined in terms of currently having a sexual partner of the same gender.  A bisexual person who has a partner of a different gender is functionally indistinguishable from a straight person, and must therefore be regarded as straight. Conversely, a bisexual person whose current partner is of the same gender must nonetheless be regarded with suspicion, because they could “turn straight” at any time simply by leaving that partner.

This argument is similarly applied to ace folks via the assertion that their orientation has no discernible performative component; an ace person is functionally indistinguishable from a straight person who simply isn’t involved in a sexual relationship at that particular moment, so ace folks must therefore be regarded as straight by default.

(An astute reader may notice that the passing argument dovetails neatly into the performativity argument: those who choose not to seek partners of a socially acceptable gender may be dismissed because any violence and discrimination they experience is a consequence of their voluntary failure to pass, while those who do seek such partners are performatively straight and therefore to be shunned. It’s a neat little system.)

The Mistaken Identity Argument

It has been argued that, while bisexual folks may suffer discrimination and physical and sexual violence, they’re not targeted by such acts because they’re bisexual. Any discrimination and violence a bisexual person suffers in relation to their orientation is suffered because they were mistaken for a gay person. Any effort on their part to discuss such experiences is therefore to be regarded as appropriative, in spite of the fact that they personally experienced it. In short, a bisexual person’s own experience of violence and discrimination doesn’t truly “belong” to them: it “belongs” to the purely hypothetical gay person their persecutors allegedly mistook them for.

1) rewriting history to erase bisexual and asexual contributions to political LGBTQ rights movements, and then claiming that bisexuals and asexuals have never done anything for the community at large

2) arguing that modernday bisexuals and asexuals should be excluded from current political movements because our goals are distinct from, or even contradictory to the goals of the LGBTQ rights movement at large

3) interpreting any attempt on the part of bi/asexuals to make safe spaces for ourselves within the community as an attack on LG safe spaces, generally by reframing bi/ace pride as homo/lesbophobia, or by dismissing accusations of bi/acephobia as inherently homo/lesbophobic

It’s often been asserted that bisexual folks ought to be excluded from the LG community because that community is specifically for folks who experience homophobia, and bisexual folks don’t experience homophobia, save by misidentification. (See the Mistaken Identity Argument, above.)

However, anybody who’s over the age of 30 can tell you that the positioning of the experience of homophobia as the community’s great unifier is, itself, a relatively novel development.

Up until quite recently (and by “recently” I mean as recently as the mid 1980s), even lesbians were routinely characterised by the leaders of mainstream gay rights activism as unwelcome parasites, riding on the movement’s coattails and contributing nothing in return.

Not only is identifying the experience of homophobia - defined narrowly as discrimination against those who are actively involved in sexual relationships with persons of the same gender - as the sole qualifier for inclusion a totally arbitrary place to draw the line, it’s baldly ahistorical.

Newsflash: no one wants an invitation to that party. No one is “invading.” No one wants to be included in your “gay club.”

What we want is shits like you to quit perpetuating intra community bigotry and hatred in the LGBT+; because the only ones treating it like a “club” are those of you that check the “queer credentials” of everyone looking for a safe space and stamp their hands with “gay enough I guess” to let us pass through the gates. (Not that we get the same treatment as the ~VIP cis gays~ anyway.)

Hi, I’m bi. And my dad is biphobic more than he’s homophobic. I’m going to use him as an example as to why ASEXUAL PEOPLE BELONG TO LGBTQIA SPACES.

My father has told me that bi people are broken, need to pick a side, are secretly straight, need therapy. Classic biphobia, right? And bi people belong in the community, because this is a common sentiment and discrimination againt bi people HAPPENS. The queer community is a place for people who face discrimination for being open about who they are, who they love, and who they fuck.

Now, introduce my dad to asexuals. Straight, cis asexuals. He says they’re broken, need therapy, have an illness. Says they’re fucked in the head, ESPECIALLY if they’re male.

THIS.

IS.

THE EXACT SAME TYPE OF DISCRIMINATION.

There’s no difference to him whether or not they’re “"cishet”“. He thinks they’re broken and advocates violence. He groups them in with “trannies and faggots”. THIS IS A COMMON SENTIMENT. Go on facebook and see how disgusting this is. It’s a problem. It’s the same kind of discrimination. A person being hit on at a club who says “oh, sorry, I’m asexual,” IS AT RISK FOR VIOLENCE. No matter how ’“cishet’” they are.

So kicking them out of your spaces achieves… What? Denying these people resources achieves what? How does giving these people a place of solidarity and safety hurt you?

If anyone reads all this and STILL wants to keep up the terf rhetoric and try to gatekeep ace/aro people, get out. Go form your own gay club, because I don’t want you in mine.

“… don’t talk about it with your family or friends that’s TMI.”

“… don’t come out as asexual, no-one needs to know.”

“… don’t call asexuality an orientation, your real orientation is your romantic orientation.”

“… don’t use the split attraction model, it’s homophobic.”

“… don’t educate young people about asexuality, that’s sexualising them.”

“… don’t tell questioning people about asexuality, it may make them confused.”

“… don’t be proud of your asexuality, that’s sex shaming.”

“… don’t talk about issues you face for your asexuality, you’re not oppressed and your issues don’t matter.”

“… don’t create new vocabulary to describe your feelings or identity, that’s not even real”

“… don’t use existing LGBT vocabulary to describe your experiences, that’s appropriation.”

“… don’t ask not to be called straight, because you are straight.”

first of all, check out this (x) post first. it’s required reading.  when you want to indoctrinate someone into an ideology they find repulsive, the first thing you do is introduce them to the themes of that ideology but package it in a way that they’ll accept.  we’ll call the person being groomed to accept TERF ideology the “mark”. con man terminology seems fitting. 

If you want to turn them against a group they currently want to protect (we’ll call this group A), then you need to first introduce them to all the arguments you’ll use to demonize group A in a setting where they’ll be open to accepting these arguments.  the easiest way to do this is to use these same arguments and tactics to demonize another group that your mark feels neutral/volatile toward, and we’ll call this group B. keep the tactics the same, keep your means of propaganda the same- but pick an acceptable target. a target that won’t make your mark feel a defensive gut reaction like they would if you attacked group A off the bat.  as long as you convince your mark that your reasons for despising group B are valid, then if you play your cards right and indoctrinate them deeply enough into hating group B, they’ll be far more open to accepting your ideology when you say that group A is evil for the same reasons as group B. this is propaganda, cult mentality, and scapegoating 101.  but the most important factor in this is making sure all of your arguments used against group B are nearly identical to those used against group A. You slowly get your mark to recognize these arguments as totally logical and valid reasons to despise a group of people, so that when you reveal that group A supposedly shares those traits with group B, your mark won’t be able to claim that your hatred of group A is wrong without also admitting their hatred of group B was also wrong. and at this point, your mark will be so deeply entrenched in a hatred for group B that their pride and anger won’t allow them to admit that their hatred isn’t grounded in logic.  they’ll declare group A to be their enemy sooner than they’ll swallow their pride and admit they were wrong to hate group B.  this is why TERF’s are almost exclusively ace exclusionists, and why there’s screenshots floating around of TERFs admitting that ace exclusionism helped them “realize” that TERF ideology was “right”.  “WORDS MEAN DIFFERENT THINGS WHEN YOU CHANGE THEM, SO IT DOESN’T MATTER IF ACE EXCLUSIONIST RHETORIC READS JUST LIKE TERF RHETORIC BUT WITH 'TRANSGENDER’ SWITCHED WITH 'ASEXUAL’!” The fact that TERFs and acephobes used the same arguments couldn’t be more relevant, because you’re being groomed to accept these arguments as being logical so that you’ll be susceptible to recruitment when you see the same argumentative points coming from TERFs. 

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/profiles/aryan-circle

There’s also a big push to keep the less palatable aspects of the ideology to the inner circle, and look reasonable to the outside world.

https://www.vice.com/en_nz/article/bmpn7q/ex-neo-nazis-explain-whats-driving-the-alt-right

When I was younger I did a lot of talking to random people in bars and coffee shops. Here and there I’d run into American white supremacists who’d make a big show of being earnestly ok with my pale Jewish ass, since antisemitism wasn’t “in” then and maybe they could sell me a line about how it’s not fair that black people want special treatment, right?

Thinking about those conversations creeps me out more with every passing year. Because I think about how they could make themselves seem - if not harmless, a minor nuisance, a racist uncle who simply didn’t understand things the way I did. Like non-terrible people who were just wrong about a thing or two.

Like the transphobia, aphobia, and biphobia rampant in the fucking lgbtq community hurts more people who actually id as ANY orientation other than cis and gay/lesbian than it supposedly protects.

hypersexuals who pick on asexuals for their sexuality:

asexuals and hypersexuals respecting each other mutually:

hypersexual aces: