ForcesofChaos

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♡ Characters ♡ : Hanayo Koizumi ♥ Rin Hoshizora

♢ Anime ♢ : Love Live! School idol project - (AL, A-P, MAL)

☆ Source ☆ : pixiv

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>“it’s pretty transphobic to think… [that] most of them are a bunch of straight people”

And “traps” are not in fact gay. Nor did I mean “straight” people. I meant “trenders.”

There are straight trans people in the world. That doesn’t change just because you’re transphobic enough to think otherwise.

You do realize that’s what straight men call us, right?Since we “trap” them into “gay” sex by being trans women.

This is a man.

This is a man.

This is a man.

This is a boy.

I could go on and on and on here, but the fact of the matter is when it comes to anime (unless you have proof stating otherwise) “trap” never referred to trans women. Why y’all equating trans women to cis male crossdressers anyway? Hell, some traps aren’t even crossdressing because they want to. This guy is forced to crossdress because of a debt his parents owe:

No double entendre intended.

“Trap” originated, IIRC, from 4chan. Basically, someone would show a picture of a trap, get anons to admit ‘she’ was hot, and then go ‘tricked you! It’s a dude!’ SJWs managed to do some sort of logical contortion and decided the term referred to trans women ‘tricking’ dudes, with no evidence whatsoever. I have literally never seen a single one support the claim, only use it as a sort of purity test; if you question the dogma in any way, that ‘proves’ you’re a transphobe.

Bee is probably thinking of ‘futanari’. Or maybe mixing up the distorted versions of both terms.

>Picture having only ever met two trans people, that’s mental…

The incidence of trans people is estimated at about 1/1,000. So it would be quite possible to meet a few hundred people but only know two ‘out’ trans people. I personally don’t know any IRL.

What I don’t understand is if you’re implying probabilities are somehow SJWow’s fault. But >since you think it’s literally impossible for transtrenders to exist< for no logical reason*, I’d say more likely than not.

That basically they wanted to be recognized as their gender expression, but that other people were NOT using gender expression to denote their gender identity they had to erase that entire category and overreach to make all expressions of gender to be absolutes. It’s fucking insane, but it’s what comes from people who feel they HAVE to assert they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Which is how you get people like @nerdylilpeebee who OPENLY Erase GNC experiences to present their Trans position. Because if Traps and Twinks ARE A THING, then they can’t argue that everyone’s transphobic, they have to admit that the issues are far more complicated than they want them to be.

I do not believe we need to erase the existence of effeminate gay men to acknowledge the needs of straight trans women. Nor do I think it helps to tell, say, straight men who find feminine gay men attractive that they’re transphobic and that they should stay away from trans issues and trans people, when they, you know. 

Would also probably be attracted to Trans Women and thus. You know. People you don’t want to discourage from encountering them.

Nor do I call everyone transphobic.

You apparently missed the part where I said “I never saw this evidence” and “I was attacked while having ‘trap’ screamed at me and so were numerous other trans people I know.”

You can act like I’m some big bad evil person, but I was simply misinformed. That doesn’t make me a bad person, nor does it mean I was erasing people.

You know, I can make mistakes, but by god at least I don’t make mistakes THIS BIG. I mean, it takes a certain kind of mindset to say ‘doesn’t matter if they’re female presenting because of gender identity or because of personal tastes, if they have a penis they’re a man and any male attracted to them is gay!’

I mean. I’m more than glad you’re learning, but… You might want to consider your words in the future.

And yes, when you say ‘it doesn’t matter if the figure is feminine, if it’s a man anyone attracted to them isn’t straight’ that is what you are saying. You’re saying PRESENTATION doesn’t matter, nor PERCEPTION, only gender.

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♡ Characters ♡ : Sonya ♥ Yasuna Oribe

♢ Anime ♢ : Kill Me Baby - (AL, A-P, KIT, MAL)

☆ Source ☆ : pixiv (Album - 16/42)

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