fitzsimmons has my heart

This is regarding the Daisy/Fitz storyline in S5 (yes, we all know which one)

I’m basically going to discuss (and rant, ig) about how I think that, despite what a large portion of the fandom apparently thinks, Daisy’s pain and anger in S5 is valid. :,)

If you’re going to read this at all, please read to the end, I have so much to say and don’t want it to seem that I am in any way attacking Fitz either (I love and feel for him so very much too), this post just focuses more on Daisy’s experience.

The ONLY people I am blatantly attacking here are the writers for even writing this in the first place (shame on y’all).

Okay…

Daisy was tortured. She was strapped down by (doctor) Fitz against her will, drugged and tortured. He cut into her neck with a knife, tore the inhibitor out, which could have literally paralysed her (as Jemma mentioned at one point, which Fitz also knew), all whilst she was screaming in pain and begging for help.

(Also whilst two of her friends watched. >:) I love Deke and Jemma, and I totally get Jemma’s decision to try and talk Fitz down, but come on. Do better, WRITERS. Early seasons Jemma would’ve never allowed that.)

Not to mention, Daisy was horrified that when said device was removed, she was going to lose control and end up destroying the world, which many people in the future were constantly blaming/hating her for. She had seen it, she was CONVINCED that if the inhibitor was removed, THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

She wasn’t even begging for HERSELF on that table, she was begging him to stop so that she wouldn’t take billions of innocent lives.

And afterwards, Fitz admitted that he didn’t regret doing it. That he didn’t regret hurting her to do that. Imagine how that must’ve felt to Daisy.

And some people are saying that she’s ableist and out of line for holding him accountable and locking him up?

I’m so sorry, but what did you think she was gonna do? “Awe, that’s alright buddy, I understand :)” No, and no one should expect her to be totally fine with it, nor immediately forgive him.

She went through TRAUMA at the hands of one of her closest friends, someone she considered FAMILY. Her anger with him after that is justified.

Please hypothetically put yourself in her shoes for a moment. :,)

Her locking him up was justified in my opinion, as how did she know it wouldn’t happen again? And have him accidentally hurt someone else? Under her watch whilst Coulson was away? After all, he was the one to reprogram the robot soldier that shot Mack- all so that he’d be out of the picture so that (doctor) Fitz could single out Daisy with no one being in the way. Same reason he knocked Deke out and waited until many members of the team were off-base.

This makes him potentially dangerous, whether he is in his right mind or not.

Daisy was put in charge by Coulson at the time and she had not only herself, but the rest of the team to worry about, all whilst trying to navigate and deal with their foes, which also meant her going off base.

With the resources they had at the time (which wasn’t like… anything), locking him up was all she could do in that moment.

It was the safest option at the time, as that way, he wouldn’t be able to involuntarily hurt himself or any others.

Yes, Fitz had a psychotic/schizophrenic break. No, that’s ABSOLUTELY not his fault and was just as painful for him to experience. But regardless of that, he must be held responsible for his actions, especially when it resulted in him traumatising one of his closest friends/family.

Whether it was actually HIM or not does not take away Daisy’s pain, it doesn’t take away her trauma, she’s just as hurt regardless.

He still had to be held accountable.

Daisy holding him accountable for what he did is not ableist, nor do I think she’s a ‘girlboss’ or anything of the such for it (as I’ve seen other, more intense Daisy fans say… THAT’S not cool). I just think that she was defending herself.

The pain Daisy went through was still very, VERY real, and she had a right to hate him for what he did, especially with it still being so fresh.

BUT finally, I would also like to point out the very NOT cool thing that Daisy did/said even before this whole debacle, which was calling Fitz “Leopold” and “HYDRA”. THAT is not okay and I do not support her actions there. I could extend on why, but it should be obvious. In my books, that is a step too far on her part, as what happened in the Framework was completely out of his control.

Her pain is real, and her anger is valid, but that is a step too far.

ULTIMATELY, in conclusion, I blame the writers for their decision to do this, to write this storyline in the first place, because they ruined the heart of Fitz and Daisy’s friendship by doing so, and that hurts SO bad. Not to mention, both characters did/said things so out of character and that was… UGH. It makes me so angry.

Neither of them deserved this.

Neither of them deserved the pain and trauma that came from it, and both characters deserved so very much better because BOTH suffered for it.

S5 really was CRUEL on my little agent family. ;-;

I know this opinion can be considered controversial, but I want to once again express that I sympathise with BOTH characters here, I’m just focusing this post more on Daisy because most others do not, and regularly attack anyone who even breathes in her defence during S5. I see Fitz’s side too, and I feel SO much for him as well (+ if I did go into how traumatic it also is for Fitz, this will probably be twice as long as it already is. Just know that I do see that too, I’m not blind).

Of course I feel just as much for him, I’m just tired of people always going at Daisy for not immediately forgiving him after such a traumatic experience, not only for Fitz but HER too. I’m tired of this debate within the fandom but I just wanted to express a part of my (overly extensive) view on it and be done with it because I needed to get it off my chest as someone who feels sorry for BOTH characters in S5.

I have more points that could be made for both ‘sides’ (even tho there shouldn’t even be ‘sides’, both went through trauma, there should not be a debate on that) but this is already WAY too long so I kept it “short” (or shortER at least).

he lied to everyone about everything from the beginning, killed so many good agents and friends and random bystanders, kidnapped skye so shed decrypt the harddrive, and still seriously thought he had a chance with her, after the people he works for literally almost killed her. he flirted with her during that kidnapping, he tried to get empathy from her while an agent he just killed was hidden in the supply closet with his blood ruining the linoleum. and then he tried to get her to feel sorry for him, because it was hard for him to make all those choices. those choices being to kill her friends and destroy the only family shes ever had. he still saw himself as the victim, despite being the worst most psychotic perpetrator he could ever possibly be. literally working for hydra and killing people just because his boss told him to. this one scene in the plane describes him perfectly, even before season 2 dove into these characteristics in detail. he is completely beyond saving.

one of the central mechanisms of his character is that he wants approval, and will do absolutely anything - anything - to get it. that ruthlessness was inside him already. garret didnt exactly manipulate him into becoming what he was. he took a dysfunctional juvenile, dumped him in the woods for 6 months, where he survived by raiding cabins and presumably killing their occupants all to impress garrett when he returned, and then he joined up with hydra for the same reason, and presumably that stayed his main motivation. and he cared so little for anything else that he continued to be willing to do anything, from murder to kidnapping to using other people to fuel his delusions to rescuing hive, an ancient inhuman hellbent on consuming earth just to "punish" shield for how they treated him.

and that desperation for approval came from the way his family and especially his parents were, and thats what may meant when she said that they all had trauma and it didnt turn any of them into psychopaths. his sad backstory explains why he is the way he is, it doesnt excuse it and it doesnt excuse the actions he takes in the present, at any point he couldve done any amount of self reflection, recognized what he is, and chosen to better himself, and instead he chose to keep blaming the rest of the world for his misdeeds, and thats on him.

OK can we talk about this scene????? (gif by daisyssousa sorry my friend i don’t know how to tag you on the app)

I feel so sad that this duo didn’t get more screen time but this scene totally crushed me. We all know they loved each other since the begging, they cared about each other, but before this it feels more like a typical asian mother-daughter relationship (no offense to the asian mother-daughter relationships) . They keep their emotions close to themselves, you know there’s love in them but there’s also distance. The mother will always put her love in action but never truly express it to her daughter. And the daughter, gradually, will do the same for her. It’s like there’s a thin paper between them that need to be pierced. And this scene did this perfectly.

I kinda liked they wrote May as a person who can feel other’s emotions (there should be an actual word but because my poor English i just can’t find it in my head). In this case, she could finally feel those unspoken words from Daisy, the happinesses, the worries, the love.

The emotions was so strong so she can’t help but projected them. Is there only projection? I don’t think so, the suppressed feeling for all those years exploded, triggered by that girl in front of her who loves her with her whole heart. For the first time we saw May showed this level of intimacy and affection to Daisy on the screen. And this is the one poke that broke the thin paper. It’s a new start, just like Daisy said. And I’d like to see the aftermath very much but I don’t think we still have the chance.

We were completely and utterly ROBBED of the team meeting Alya like are you KIDDING??

Why would they not show us that? I am appalled.

Also we didn’t see Daisy and Sousa, and Mack and Yo-Yo, reunite after they returned home from space (where Daisy literally DIED for a minute there) and I’m upset about that too.

The finale should’ve been like two hours long at the least. Give me an hour of wholesomeness, we don’t even need any action or plot, just family vibes and a little bit of happiness for ONCE.

We absolutely should've had a 2 hour long episode full of found family and happiness and reunions and family dinners to end the show that would've been perfect.

If I had ONE WISH, it wouldn’t be for world peace, it would be to know what was said in that GODDAMN LETTER.

I’ll never not be UPSET :,)

1) Coulson's letter to Daisy. 'It basically just says how proud I am of you' um ok Philip I'm going to need a bit more than that. Give me SPECIFICS.

Yeah, I love (most of) the MCU’s villains, but idc, a lot of the AOS ones are simply superior.

Like Ward? Hive? Izel? AIDA?

Even Jiaying, the Kree and Chronicoms too?

Probably missing a ton more but anyway.

They’re just SUPERIOR.

ward is well known, he doesnt need much explanation. he was a complete sociopath, at the same time pathetic because of what motivated him and how he saw the world, and terrifying because of how far he was willing to go and how completely gone he was by the end.

hive is another story. at first glance, his motivation is to rule the world, which is as megalomaniacal and basic as it comes when talking about villains motivations. what made him absolutely terrifying was what he was capable of doing, and what he did to achieve this goal. the ruthlessness and extreme disregard. the ability to twist good people into blind minions willing to do anything, even murder their loved ones, willing to help bring about the end of the world and sacrifice as much for it as they otherwise would to save it. to make them love him for it, while he sees them as simple tools, to have them die to protect him while he throws them away when its convenient. in the beginning, you might think hes not the worst villain there could possibly be. he wants to crusade for all inhumans, right? the ones who have so far only been feared and abused? yeah, it seems like a typical case of marvel villain with understandable intentions and questionable methods. but as the season goes on, it becomes clearer and clearer its not about that at all. he abandons his plan to turn everyone into regular powered inhumans in favor of turning them into braindead primitives. he wants to consume earth, and doesnt care about anyone or anything. he is the prime evil of human history. the atrocities that have been committed in his name throughout all of human history are without count. he steals the memories of the people he infects and uses them to manipulate others. to quote daisy, thats as close to stealing someones soul as you can get. he takes everything from the people who cross his path. and all of it hidden beneath the polite, slightly amused faced of grant ward, a man who has taken more from our team than anyone else before him. the man really is a parasite at his core, in every gruesome and twisted sense of the word.

now, izel. what made her terrifying was mostly the absolute inability of the team to stop her. every attempt failing, her going through our powerful heroes like doors, nothing seemingly mattering. the growing desperation and the sinking realization that she is going to win, because she is simply so far beyond the capabilities of the entire planet of earth that nothing can stop her. except, in the end, hubris. but that was sheer luck. if sarge hadnt turned and killed may, that wouldve been it. in other words: what it took to stop her.

and finally, Aida. what made her a fascinating villain was the fact that she couldnt be blamed for the things she did. she caused so much pain and suffering and destruction, she took everything from shield, and when it comes down to it, its not her fault. its the cold, calculating logic of a machine with free will. she wants to be free. thats perfectly understandable. morality doesnt exist for her. and even when she succeeds and becomes human, you cant blame her, because her situation is completely unprecedented. a machine turned human, with a crazy amount of inhuman powers, emotions never experienced before, and without any sort of emotional support or guidance or idea of human nature. in other words: destined to be insane and dangerous from the moment of her birth.

i will say though, that i think thanos in his infinity war version comes in as an equal. outside of him though...

edit after posting, because i felt like it was unfair to ignore jiaying:

The twists on Agents of Shield hit SO HARD omg, and one of the main reasons for that is the diversions they utilize.

Like I never in a million years would’ve seen that Ward twist coming, (most people didn’t) especially after how betrayed he seemed when it was revealed that Skye was still in communication with the rising tide. They make it seem like “oh yeah, that’s the twist, Skye is the one who’s most likely to secretly work against everyone for a little while, but she’s not doing that anymore so that’s solved” and then Grant kills Hand and stabs everyone in the back and it’s insane.

I thought that the whole Necklace Of Death storyline was leading up to Yo-Yo’s death, and that passing it around and different people wearing the jacket was just another huge diversion to make us think that it was going to be someone besides her. It was her necklace. I was absolutely certain it would be her. I NEVER would’ve thought it would be LINCOLN.

We thought it was an evil fear-dimension doppelgänger of Fitz, only to find out he was never there and it was all Fitz. They really make you think it has something to do with the fear dimension, because that’s the main conflict, right? No.

AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SELF CONTROL. OMG. Maybe other people saw this part coming, but I never considered that one of Fitzsimmons would also be an LMD. I got literal chills when they discovered that their friends were replaced. That’s what I was focused on. And then they reveal that one of them was replaced. (Also, I just have to say the acting in that episode is absolutely phenomenal)