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Jessica Raine as Jane Boleyn /Lady Rochford in Wolf Hall (2015)

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Sarah Bolger behind the scenes of The Tudors season 3

“If you like nothing else, just watch for the clothes. Honestly, I would wear these out if they let me!”

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The Tudors (2007-2010) | s02e07 | 73/?

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Anne Boleyn. The Tudors season 2.

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Anne Boleyn | The Tudors (2007–2010)

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The Tudors Tamzin Merchant as Queen Katherine Howard

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mackay really just… says things.

#altho judging by ABfiles Duels in the Comment Section #i suppose her criteria does not include multiple times in dispatches …#rather by Number of Dispatches wherein…#but again if you’re arguing for vehemence. that seems pretty disingenuous .#at least she didn’t claim this was caused by psychological stress lol #like she did for all the times he referred to AB as ‘concubine’….

TIL that this was actually a line from the spanish chronicle 😭

#interesting that AB 2021 was castigated for ‘inaccuracy’ re: a certain detail from spanish chronicle #whereas mantel’s series was praised for ‘accuracy’ for including exact same detail from exact same source …

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Katherine Parr's blue gold dress in The Tudors 4x07

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Alicia von Rittberg in Becoming Elizabeth (1.08) as Elizabeth Tudor

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Which type of historical fiction do you prefer?

Histfic focused on real people only

Histfic focused on fictional people only

Histfic that combines real and fictional people

Depends

I like all of these

I don’t like any historical fiction

Remaining time: 1 day 1 hour

#most ‘OC’ histfic character pov narratives are sooo bad #and always read as self-insert #see: the queen’s fool #& a lady raised high #and amy licence’s new tudorfic series…#i really like the concept of the tudor era from a ‘commoner’ pov #but it usually doesn’t stick the landing

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i notice also that AB specifically seems to be spoken of so emotively for (in)actions that seem more like they're politically motivated...she 'tortured' wolsey, well...did she? she certainly seemed to have taken advantaged of, and benefited from, his fall in power. is that the same?

and then another part of me is back to the 'so what?' to the theory cavendish seems to suggest, that she had a direct hand in choosing henry percy to be the man assigned to serve wolsey his arrest warrant (this tends to be the backburner plot of most tudor dramas, btw, including-- more accurately--wolf hall, and tudors-- including the 'silly girl' remark absent the full historical context and technically misdating it also)...

but if the narrative requires a credulity of cavendish, then it requires an acceptance of his portrayal of wolsey's aggrandizement, asw. it requires the acceptance of the "foolish girl" remark...the insult to her family, the insult to percy, in his choice of her, so the insult to her. if it was true, it was a slow burn, and she gave as good as she got.

whatever, i'm putting this badly. tl; dr on it is that in the emphasis of AB's supposed vindictiveness, there tends to be a weirdly unacknowledged aspect (ie, is her vindictiveness reactive or proactive?)

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#So Wolsey was arrested in Cawood in his diocese.#in the north #and Percy at that point was no longer heir but Earl of Northumberland himself #so the highest ranking northern lord …#sooo… genuinely I don’t really think it was shade from henry or anne lol #it was just a precedent being followed #just like highest ranking noble available to London was generally lord steward at trial of nobility #I think if his father were alive it probably would’ve just been him.

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i notice also that AB specifically seems to be spoken of so emotively for (in)actions that seem more like they're politically motivated...she 'tortured' wolsey, well...did she? she certainly seemed to have taken advantaged of, and benefited from, his fall in power. is that the same?

and then another part of me is back to the 'so what?' to the theory cavendish seems to suggest, that she had a direct hand in choosing henry percy to be the man assigned to serve wolsey his arrest warrant (this tends to be the backburner plot of most tudor dramas, btw, including-- more accurately--wolf hall, and tudors-- including the 'silly girl' remark absent the full historical context and technically misdating it also)...

but if the narrative requires a credulity of cavendish, then it requires an acceptance of his portrayal of wolsey's aggrandizement, asw. it requires the acceptance of the "foolish girl" remark...the insult to her family, the insult to percy, in his choice of her, so the insult to her. if it was true, it was a slow burn, and she gave as good as she got.

whatever, i'm putting this badly. tl; dr on it is that in the emphasis of AB's supposed vindictiveness, there tends to be a weirdly unacknowledged aspect (ie, is her vindictiveness reactive or proactive?)

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#obviously that does not make any such action “right” or moral #but it is an important context

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"...fascinatingly intelligent and high-spirited..." "...the only one of Henry’s six wives whose marriage to the king was regularly called her ‘reign’ by contemporaries... a major player in the early English Reformation, the beginning of a Reformation unique in Europe in having two women among its leading architects..." "...a devout, intelligent, and determined woman..." "...undoubtedly intelligent, attractive, spirited..." "…an educated and opinionated woman who attracted supporters and detractors in equal measure…"

i notice also that AB specifically seems to be spoken of so emotively for (in)actions that seem more like they're politically motivated...she 'tortured' wolsey, well...did she? she certainly seemed to have taken advantage of, and benefited from, his fall in power. is that the same?

and then another part of me is back to the 'so what?' to the theory cavendish seems to suggest, that she had a direct hand in choosing henry percy to be the man assigned to serve wolsey his arrest warrant (this tends to be the backburner plot of most tudor dramas, btw, including-- more accurately--wolf hall, and tudors-- including the 'silly girl' remark absent the full historical context and technically misdating it also)...

but if the narrative requires a credulity of cavendish, then it requires an acceptance of his portrayal of wolsey's aggrandizement, asw. it requires the acceptance of the "foolish girl" remark...the insult to her family, the insult to percy, in his choice of her, so the insult to her. if it was true, it was a slow burn, and she gave as good as she got.

whatever, i'm putting this badly. tl; dr on it is that in the emphasis of AB's supposed vindictiveness, there tends to be a weirdly unacknowledged aspect (ie, is her vindictiveness reactive or proactive?)

#as for the masque...it's not unreasonable to speculate on her influence #but it's not exactly confirmed #it was hosted by wiltshire and published by norfolk #which would not have worked for the revenge plot in wh; so...#(i mean. it could've had it leaned into an angle of 'crom destroys wiltshire's favorite children'#but the characterization of wiltshire would not allow it; and if it was norfolk...#well. then it'd be ineffectual #norfolk fell out of favor but he didn't fall-fall until after crom's)#beyond that there's just nothing to suggest that like...idk... wolsey's funeral was particularly disrespectful #or didn't afford him full honors (and it'd make sense if it hadn't given the circumstance #of him being a suspected traitor when he died)#his cloth of estate was carried over his coffin etc

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