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reverse unpopular opinion meme: the mirror and the light?
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Charles's decision to lie [about the murder of two French diplomats by his agent] proved a logistical and a political disaster. Anxious to join the expeditionary force he had assembled to take Algiers, he interrupted his journey from Regensburg to make a solemn entry into Milan, where he and Vasto showed their mutual regard. The marquis had engaged Giulio Romano, one of the foremost architects of his day, to prepare triumphal arches (one of them crowned by a statue of Charles, mounted and dressed as a Roman emperor, trampling down a Moor, a Turk, and a Native American); and he accompanied his master everywhere until, flanked by two cardinals 'and all the dukes, princes, and lords of his court, His Majesty went to the cathedral to carry the son of the marquis to his baptism', becoming the child's godfather. Shortly afterwards torrential rains and high winds destroyed most of the triumphal arches, which some saw as a harbinger of disaster. The emperor's ten-day sojourn in Milan, whether or not intended to demonstrate his confidence [...] doomed the coming campaign: many believed that if Charles had arrived in north Africa ten days earlier, he would have captured Algiers before the catastrophic storms decimated his fleet.
Emperor: A New Life of Charles V, Geoffrey Parker

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JAMES FRAIN as Thomas Cromwell The Tudors | Season one – Part one.
Her husband William Roper had been frantically writing to his younger brother, Christopher, a lawyer and building-surveyor in Cromwell's household. Not content with letters, William sent a messenger every other day to see if his brother could be traced. He couldn't understand why Christopher wouldn't use his influence to mitigate the forfeiture of the More family's estates, for William wasn't of the stuff that martyrs are made, swearing Henry's oath and sitting on the jury for the trial of two Middlesex priests accused alongside Prior Houghton, a fact he strove forever afterwards to conceal.
A daughter's love : Thomas & Margaret More / John Guy
The Tudors, 1.02.
something about...the overlap of xenophobia and religious intolerance and how cromwell recognizes it very well outside england, and, yet:
The Mirror and the Light (2020) / Henry VIII, the League of Schmalkalden, and the English Reformation, Boydell Press (Rochester, NY), 2002.

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Good Christian people, I am come hither to die, for according to the law, and by the law I am judged to die, and therefore I will speak nothing against it. I am come hither to accuse no man, nor to speak anything of that, whereof I am accused and condemned to die, but I pray God save the king and send him long to reign over you, for a gentler nor a more merciful prince was there never: and to me he was ever a good, a gentle and sovereign lord. And if any person will meddle of my cause, I require them to judge the best. And thus I take my leave of the world and of you all, and I heartily desire you all to pray for me. O Lord have mercy on me, to God I commend my soul.
well, in light of archive.org losing about half a mil books today, if anyone is ever looking for a tudor book quote, feel free to am(for)a(ny).
Hi,
I've been listening to some talks on the Exeter Conspiracy and Cromwell it sounds like was heavily involved with the process. He investigated and imprisoned the Pole family. Considering he helped kill Henry Pole Baron Montague and frame Margaret Pole why on Earth would Mary still have liked him by the end? Curious what you make of their relationship?
Are you hinting at their relationship as portrayed in Wolf Hall/TMATL? Imo, the likelihood of his role in the Exeter Conspiracy deteriorating the trust she had had in Cromwell was rather underwritten in that series, but the trust as it was, does seem to have existed previously (superficially, at the very least, and perhaps even authentically, for a time).
This, from Cromwell's biographer, Diarmaid MacCulloch:
On Chapuys's testimony, Mary herself felt real gratitude to Cromwell for his goodwill towards her, and she expressed it extravagantly: 'how much I am bound unto you, which hath...travailed, when I was almost drowned in folly, to recover me before I sunk and was utterly past recovery.' Cromwell himself told the ambassador he was convinced that his own imprisonment loomed [...] [T]he King had arrested Cromwell's friends and probable fellow-conspirators against Anne [Boleyn], Sir Anthony Browne and Sir William Fitzwilliam, who in turn yielded up the name of a definite fellow-conspirator, Sir Nicholas Carew. Add to that the arrest of Anne Hussey, wife of Mary's long-standing Chamberlain, and things looked desperate indeed.
I cannot imagine Mary holding much in the way of warmth and fondness for somebody that equally used and deceived her own supporters/friends in his own power grab, and then later used them as cannon fodder once their usefulness to him ran out, to maintain the same elevation. Regardless of the warmth/pleasant rhetoric of her letters afterwards (it's like people forget that self-fashioning/self-preservation is a thing, because they are so wedded to the Mary, the One Honest, Good & Pure Tudor, incapable of lies/dissimulation, narrative...)...but, maybe that's just me...
At least one historian, Hazel Pierce, was very upset with this portrayal in TMATL. Fwiw, I don't really agree with her reasoning, but it's relevant to your question, so might be worth a read.
And I've answered something similar to this ask before, which might be of interest to you.
tl; dr i suppose i would say the evidence is mixed? much is made of this:
and, a few things … more political than personal, 1), and 2) the ‘crossed out’ part is underrated.
3) well. i think from the assertion chapuys was mary’s most vehement defender, his opinion of cromwell matters. i would actually argue that he would be a far better judge of cromwell than AB, as someone that actually shared meals with him and hosted him etc.
and this is where i tend to get frustrated— anything negative said about cromwell from this source, about this dynamic, tends to be dismissed.
such as:
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wolf hall (2009) / tobg (2001)
wolf hall (2009) / tobg (2001)