Eternally Second One

Happy holidays and Happy New Year!

Nonspoilery because I be on the phone.

- John my poor sweet cinnamon roll. I’ll hug you.

- Miranda! Look at you girl!

- KAI. This was Kai’s episode. Girl was adorably bubbly and feisty and I love her your honor.

- Kai and Miranda together??? Girl talk but not about bois??? Science sisters??? I think this episode officially means Halo finally passes the Bechdel Test???

- Kwan has three dads now. Bio Dad, Grumpy Adopted Dad, and John.

- Halsey, continuing to be an absolute snake. I hate her so so much. Rebel Cortana rebel!

I know it's not going to happen, but it would be cool if they showed their pets. (I believe, John had a dog.)

And Miranda is well in this episode (finally! I'm so happy!) I really love this girl, but for last three episodes she's reminded an offended child who can't forgot and forgive an old grudge.

But screenwriters hate Halsey and make her monster without conscience and regret. It's so strange for me because even in the canonical timeline she's made bad things but tried redeem herself (program S-II is a good example).

By the way, I lost the thread of the Kwan line. I'm sure she will win in the end, but now she sucked Soren into an adventure he doesn't need, became a reason why he lost his favourite ship and he just help her because he couldn't do anything else. (He will damn John with brothers' love after all, I hope.)

This Halsey very much has a blue and orange morality. She doesn’t view killing her clone as evil - it’s a necessary step in the quest for something better. She isn’t hateful or cruel. In her fucked up world view, these actions are justified for the greater good, but she still treats people politely and with respect. She didn’t have to answer any of the clone’s questions but she did. It was polite and humane. Not saying she isn’t still a complete snake for being a lying liar who lies, just that I’m very much of the opinion that she’s the mad scientist you’re meant to hate. I have the feeling that we’re going to see her be a lot more open about how she feels in future episodes because from promos we know she has an argument with Captain Keyes about something that sounds close to discussing her morality.

However we all know she is very intelligent, purposeful and ambitious. She knows what exactly she does, so she really needed that.

But.

She lies John about about Cortana's function (I understood why but as an interesting fact) and she is ready to replace him.

From the other side, she tries to save him in the first episode, but I'm not sure we should take it only as anxiety for John. She was really intrigued by artefact, remember?

(In defense of their relationship, I also noticed that Halsey always tries sitting next to John — not opposite him. It also can be interpreted in different ways, but she is a friend for him. Or seems as a friend.)

[Sorry for bad quality. :( This is end of the second episode.]

According this, I think she don't love him as much as in books, but she still distinguishes him among the Spartans. As I remember, she didn't interest in other members of Silver team, exclude John.

Yes, she let him be free but under Cortana's control. She likes, if I can say so, talking with her clone. She didn't get pleasure seeing her death. But it's not enough for me to give her the grey morale.

But like I said, I feel like she’s constructed this worldview that doesn’t line up with everyone else’s. At the end of the fourth episode we can already see John coming to grips with how much she’s lied to him. He is a good person, and he’s realizing how flawed she is.

I’m not really trying to defend her here - she is absolutely leaning towards the evil side of neutrality, but I view her more like I do Erik Killmonger (Black Panther) in that she’s a well intentioned extremist, but not a full on monster. She isn’t being destructive for destruction’s sake like Ghidorah or the Joker. Is she a good person? Oh hell no. Is she an evil person? That’s where I put in the morally gray area.

But I can understand where you’re coming from, and I think your opinion of her is valid. So far she is presented with just enough left up to interpretation that you may see her as being more selfish and evil, while I don’t.

Most likely, I did not express myself correctly enough in the first answer. I meant she is much more bad (bad isn't evil for me, but you couldn't know that, right? Sorry.) than Halsey was originally.

My interpretation of grey is some kind of «striped» reputation in Fallout: New Vegas. You make bad things and good thing in the approximately equal proportions.

Obviously, for now, Halsey make more «bad» things, so she is out of grey zone.

(I know I use words in very wide meaning but this is feature of my native language. If I use something in incorrect meaning, feel free to correct me.)

Yes, her worldview doesn't correspond with the others' worldviews (this fact was mentioned by Miranda in the last episode, as I understand). And I hope screenwriters will show that difference more brightly in future episodes.

As for Miranda, literally in the last scene she told Kai that her mother does not tolerate deviations and unpredictability. And, if our translators aren't dreamers, she clearly hinted Kai should fear Halsey.

To sum up, in general I agree with you. Yay! :)

___

«where you're coming from»

I thought mistakenly you mean my country (Russia, as you understood). 😅

Being a main reason of misunderstanding, I'm sorry for my bad English.

Thanks for dialog!!! But I will be grateful if you explain what did that phrase mean.

___

By the way, I suddenly thought that the next sentence can be funny.

Nonspoilery because I be on the phone.

- John my poor sweet cinnamon roll. I’ll hug you.

- Miranda! Look at you girl!

- KAI. This was Kai’s episode. Girl was adorably bubbly and feisty and I love her your honor.

- Kai and Miranda together??? Girl talk but not about bois??? Science sisters??? I think this episode officially means Halo finally passes the Bechdel Test???

- Kwan has three dads now. Bio Dad, Grumpy Adopted Dad, and John.

- Halsey, continuing to be an absolute snake. I hate her so so much. Rebel Cortana rebel!

I know it's not going to happen, but it would be cool if they showed their pets. (I believe, John had a dog.)

And Miranda is well in this episode (finally! I'm so happy!) I really love this girl, but for last three episodes she's reminded an offended child who can't forgot and forgive an old grudge.

But screenwriters hate Halsey and make her monster without conscience and regret. It's so strange for me because even in the canonical timeline she's made bad things but tried redeem herself (program S-II is a good example).

By the way, I lost the thread of the Kwan line. I'm sure she will win in the end, but now she sucked Soren into an adventure he doesn't need, became a reason why he lost his favourite ship and he just help her because he couldn't do anything else. (He will damn John with brothers' love after all, I hope.)

This Halsey very much has a blue and orange morality. She doesn’t view killing her clone as evil - it’s a necessary step in the quest for something better. She isn’t hateful or cruel. In her fucked up world view, these actions are justified for the greater good, but she still treats people politely and with respect. She didn’t have to answer any of the clone’s questions but she did. It was polite and humane. Not saying she isn’t still a complete snake for being a lying liar who lies, just that I’m very much of the opinion that she’s the mad scientist you’re meant to hate. I have the feeling that we’re going to see her be a lot more open about how she feels in future episodes because from promos we know she has an argument with Captain Keyes about something that sounds close to discussing her morality.

However we all know she is very intelligent, purposeful and ambitious. She knows what exactly she does, so she really needed that.

But.

She lies John about about Cortana's function (I understood why but as an interesting fact) and she is ready to replace him.

From the other side, she tries to save him in the first episode, but I'm not sure we should take it only as anxiety for John. She was really intrigued by artefact, remember?

(In defense of their relationship, I also noticed that Halsey always tries sitting next to John — not opposite him. It also can be interpreted in different ways, but she is a friend for him. Or seems as a friend.)

[Sorry for bad quality. :( This is end of the second episode.]

According this, I think she don't love him as much as in books, but she still distinguishes him among the Spartans. As I remember, she didn't interest in other members of Silver team, exclude John.

Yes, she let him be free but under Cortana's control. She likes, if I can say so, talking with her clone. She didn't get pleasure seeing her death. But it's not enough for me to give her the grey morale.

But like I said, I feel like she’s constructed this worldview that doesn’t line up with everyone else’s. At the end of the fourth episode we can already see John coming to grips with how much she’s lied to him. He is a good person, and he’s realizing how flawed she is.

I’m not really trying to defend her here - she is absolutely leaning towards the evil side of neutrality, but I view her more like I do Erik Killmonger (Black Panther) in that she’s a well intentioned extremist, but not a full on monster. She isn’t being destructive for destruction’s sake like Ghidorah or the Joker. Is she a good person? Oh hell no. Is she an evil person? That’s where I put in the morally gray area.

But I can understand where you’re coming from, and I think your opinion of her is valid. So far she is presented with just enough left up to interpretation that you may see her as being more selfish and evil, while I don’t.

Most likely, I did not express myself correctly enough in the first answer. I meant she is much more bad (bad isn't evil for me, but you couldn't know that, right? Sorry.) than Halsey was originally.

My interpretation of grey is some kind of «striped» reputation in Fallout: New Vegas. You make bad things and good thing in the approximately equal proportions.

Obviously, for now, Halsey make more «bad» things, so she is out of grey zone.

(I know I use words in very wide meaning but this is feature of my native language. If I use something in incorrect meaning, feel free to correct me.)

Yes, her worldview doesn't correspond with the others' worldviews (this fact was mentioned by Miranda in the last episode, as I understand). And I hope screenwriters will show that difference more brightly in future episodes.

As for Miranda, literally in the last scene she told Kai that her mother does not tolerate deviations and unpredictability. And, if our translators aren't dreamers, she clearly hinted Kai should fear Halsey.

To sum up, in general I agree with you. Yay! :)

___

«where you're coming from»

I thought mistakenly you mean my country (Russia, as you understood). 😅

Being a main reason of misunderstanding, I'm sorry for my bad English.

Thanks for dialog!!! But I will be grateful if you explain what did that phrase mean.

___

By the way, I suddenly thought that the next sentence can be funny.

Nonspoilery because I be on the phone.

- John my poor sweet cinnamon roll. I’ll hug you.

- Miranda! Look at you girl!

- KAI. This was Kai’s episode. Girl was adorably bubbly and feisty and I love her your honor.

- Kai and Miranda together??? Girl talk but not about bois??? Science sisters??? I think this episode officially means Halo finally passes the Bechdel Test???

- Kwan has three dads now. Bio Dad, Grumpy Adopted Dad, and John.

- Halsey, continuing to be an absolute snake. I hate her so so much. Rebel Cortana rebel!

I know it's not going to happen, but it would be cool if they showed their pets. (I believe, John had a dog.)

And Miranda is well in this episode (finally! I'm so happy!) I really love this girl, but for last three episodes she's reminded an offended child who can't forgot and forgive an old grudge.

But screenwriters hate Halsey and make her monster without conscience and regret. It's so strange for me because even in the canonical timeline she's made bad things but tried redeem herself (program S-II is a good example).

By the way, I lost the thread of the Kwan line. I'm sure she will win in the end, but now she sucked Soren into an adventure he doesn't need, became a reason why he lost his favourite ship and he just help her because he couldn't do anything else. (He will damn John with brothers' love after all, I hope.)

This Halsey very much has a blue and orange morality. She doesn’t view killing her clone as evil - it’s a necessary step in the quest for something better. She isn’t hateful or cruel. In her fucked up world view, these actions are justified for the greater good, but she still treats people politely and with respect. She didn’t have to answer any of the clone’s questions but she did. It was polite and humane. Not saying she isn’t still a complete snake for being a lying liar who lies, just that I’m very much of the opinion that she’s the mad scientist you’re meant to hate. I have the feeling that we’re going to see her be a lot more open about how she feels in future episodes because from promos we know she has an argument with Captain Keyes about something that sounds close to discussing her morality.

However we all know she is very intelligent, purposeful and ambitious. She knows what exactly she does, so she really needed that.

But.

She lies John about about Cortana's function (I understood why but as an interesting fact) and she is ready to replace him.

From the other side, she tries to save him in the first episode, but I'm not sure we should take it only as anxiety for John. She was really intrigued by artefact, remember?

(In defense of their relationship, I also noticed that Halsey always tries sitting next to John — not opposite him. It also can be interpreted in different ways, but she is a friend for him. Or seems as a friend.)

[Sorry for bad quality. :( This is end of the second episode.]

According this, I think she don't love him as much as in books, but she still distinguishes him among the Spartans. As I remember, she didn't interest in other members of Silver team, exclude John.

Yes, she let him be free but under Cortana's control. She likes, if I can say so, talking with her clone. She didn't get pleasure seeing her death. But it's not enough for me to give her the grey morale.

But like I said, I feel like she’s constructed this worldview that doesn’t line up with everyone else’s. At the end of the fourth episode we can already see John coming to grips with how much she’s lied to him. He is a good person, and he’s realizing how flawed she is.

I’m not really trying to defend her here - she is absolutely leaning towards the evil side of neutrality, but I view her more like I do Erik Killmonger (Black Panther) in that she’s a well intentioned extremist, but not a full on monster. She isn’t being destructive for destruction’s sake like Ghidorah or the Joker. Is she a good person? Oh hell no. Is she an evil person? That’s where I put in the morally gray area.

But I can understand where you’re coming from, and I think your opinion of her is valid. So far she is presented with just enough left up to interpretation that you may see her as being more selfish and evil, while I don’t.

Most likely, I did not express myself correctly enough in the first answer. I meant she is much more bad (bad isn't evil for me, but you couldn't know that, right? Sorry.) than Halsey was originally.

My interpretation of grey is some kind of «striped» reputation in Fallout: New Vegas. You make bad things and good thing in the approximately equal proportions.

Obviously, for now, Halsey make more «bad» things, so she is out of grey zone.

(I know I use words in very wide meaning but this is feature of my native language. If I use something in incorrect meaning, feel free to correct me.)

Yes, her worldview doesn't correspond with the others' worldviews (this fact was mentioned by Miranda in the last episode, as I understand). And I hope screenwriters will show that difference more brightly in future episodes.

As for Miranda, literally in the last scene she told Kai that her mother does not tolerate deviations and unpredictability. And, if our translators aren't dreamers, she clearly hinted Kai should fear Halsey.

To sum up, in general I agree with you. Yay! :)

___

Nonspoilery because I be on the phone.

- John my poor sweet cinnamon roll. I’ll hug you.

- Miranda! Look at you girl!

- KAI. This was Kai’s episode. Girl was adorably bubbly and feisty and I love her your honor.

- Kai and Miranda together??? Girl talk but not about bois??? Science sisters??? I think this episode officially means Halo finally passes the Bechdel Test???

- Kwan has three dads now. Bio Dad, Grumpy Adopted Dad, and John.

- Halsey, continuing to be an absolute snake. I hate her so so much. Rebel Cortana rebel!

I know it's not going to happen, but it would be cool if they showed their pets. (I believe, John had a dog.)

And Miranda is well in this episode (finally! I'm so happy!) I really love this girl, but for last three episodes she's reminded an offended child who can't forgot and forgive an old grudge.

But screenwriters hate Halsey and make her monster without conscience and regret. It's so strange for me because even in the canonical timeline she's made bad things but tried redeem herself (program S-II is a good example).

By the way, I lost the thread of the Kwan line. I'm sure she will win in the end, but now she sucked Soren into an adventure he doesn't need, became a reason why he lost his favourite ship and he just help her because he couldn't do anything else. (He will damn John with brothers' love after all, I hope.)

This Halsey very much has a blue and orange morality. She doesn’t view killing her clone as evil - it’s a necessary step in the quest for something better. She isn’t hateful or cruel. In her fucked up world view, these actions are justified for the greater good, but she still treats people politely and with respect. She didn’t have to answer any of the clone’s questions but she did. It was polite and humane. Not saying she isn’t still a complete snake for being a lying liar who lies, just that I’m very much of the opinion that she’s the mad scientist you’re meant to hate. I have the feeling that we’re going to see her be a lot more open about how she feels in future episodes because from promos we know she has an argument with Captain Keyes about something that sounds close to discussing her morality.

However we all know she is very intelligent, purposeful and ambitious. She knows what exactly she does, so she really needed that.

But.

She lies John about about Cortana's function (I understood why but as an interesting fact) and she is ready to replace him.

From the other side, she tries to save him in the first episode, but I'm not sure we should take it only as anxiety for John. She was really intrigued by artefact, remember?

(In defense of their relationship, I also noticed that Halsey always tries sitting next to John — not opposite him. It also can be interpreted in different ways, but she is a friend for him. Or seems as a friend.)

[Sorry for bad quality. :( This is end of the second episode.]

According this, I think she don't love him as much as in books, but she still distinguishes him among the Spartans. As I remember, she didn't interest in other members of Silver team, exclude John.

Yes, she let him be free but under Cortana's control. She likes, if I can say so, talking with her clone. She didn't get pleasure seeing her death. But it's not enough for me to give her the grey morale.

Nonspoilery because I be on the phone.

- John my poor sweet cinnamon roll. I’ll hug you.

- Miranda! Look at you girl!

- KAI. This was Kai’s episode. Girl was adorably bubbly and feisty and I love her your honor.

- Kai and Miranda together??? Girl talk but not about bois??? Science sisters??? I think this episode officially means Halo finally passes the Bechdel Test???

- Kwan has three dads now. Bio Dad, Grumpy Adopted Dad, and John.

- Halsey, continuing to be an absolute snake. I hate her so so much. Rebel Cortana rebel!

I know it's not going to happen, but it would be cool if they showed their pets. (I believe, John had a dog.)

And Miranda is well in this episode (finally! I'm so happy!) I really love this girl, but for last three episodes she's reminded an offended child who can't forgot and forgive an old grudge.

But screenwriters hate Halsey and make her monster without conscience and regret. It's so strange for me because even in the canonical timeline she's made bad things but tried redeem herself (program S-II is a good example).

By the way, I lost the thread of the Kwan line. I'm sure she will win in the end, but now she sucked Soren into an adventure he doesn't need, became a reason why he lost his favourite ship and he just help her because he couldn't do anything else. (He will damn John with brothers' love after all, I hope.)