I much prefer canon timeline, but I do like some of Legends characters. Like Tahl & Bant (Jedi Apprentice) and Quinlan & Tholme (afaik they started from legends then later canonized?).
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I just watched a fantastic video about what attachment actually means in Star Wars. It might reframe the way you think about the Jedi, Anakin, and the whole conversation around love in the first six movies.
The Value of the Jedi - Love, Attachments, and Amatonormativity
For me personally, one of the biggest takeaways for me was learning the word amatonormativity (means society treats romantic love and marriage as the ultimate, default goal of a meaningful life.) The video digs into how that assumption shapes the way we interpret the Jedi’s teachings, and how it leads us to project our own cultural biases onto the actual story George Lucas is telling.
It isn’t a short video and it’s packed with thoughtful analysis:
how Jedi philosophy gets misunderstood
why “attachment” isn’t the same thing as “love” and is always one-sided
why romantic monogamy gets treated as more important than friendship, community, or family
how Western cultural norms shape the way we rank relationships
and how all of that affects the way we judge Anakin’s fall
It’s also a goldmine of quotes, citations, and resources if you ever want solid support for your thoughts on the Jedi Order in the first six Star Wars films.
I'm delighted that this video exists and would love for there to be more like it. I can't transcribe the whole thing, but here are a few timestamps that stuck out to me in regards to better understanding the jedi. The video does a great job touching on different factors of the films through this topic. I highly recommend it for folks who want a deeper dive into the imagery, inspirations, and film-making methods & decisions of these movies as well.
06:49 (Lucas) Something like this puts everything back in focus: Look, you know, people's sex lives are not that important in the real world. What's really important are, you know, taking care of other people, and compassion, and helping other people, and sticking together and trying to make this a good world.
14:29 (Lucas) You live in two worlds here: happiness is pleasure, and happiness is joy. You can be either one. Pleasure is short-lived, lasts an hour, lasts a minute. It peaks and goes down; it peaks very high, but the next time you want to get that same peak, you have to do it twice as much. You know, it's like drugs; you have to keep doing it because it insulates itself no matter what it is - whether you're shopping, engaged in any other kind of pleasure. It all has the same quality about it. On the other hand is joy, and joy is a thing that doesn't go as high as pleasure in terms of your emotional reaction, but it stays with you. Joy is something you can recall. Pleasure, you can't. Even though it's not as intense as pleasure, the joy will last you a lot longer. If you're trying to sustain that level of peak pleasure, you're doomed. Pleasure's fun, it's great, but you can't keep it going forever. Just accept the fact that it's here and it's gone, and maybe again it'll come back and you get to do it again. Joy lasts forever. Pleasure is purely self-centered; it's all about your pleasure. It's about you. It's about a selfish, self-centered emotion created by a self-centered motive of greed. Joy is compassion. Joy is giving yourself to somebody else, or something else, and it's a kind of thing that in its subtlety and lowness is much more powerful than pleasure.
21:17 (Narrator) I think some viewers are put-off by the jedi's philosophies around romance and attachments in part because of how unusual the jedi already seem. Lucas' style of dialogue and his preference towards classical acting rather than method acting makes for a cinematic experience that, for a lot of viewers, can seem like an emotional distance between them and the characters in a way that feels alienating, but if you're on the same wavelength as Lucas, it makes for a very enriching viewing experience, and one of the ways that I tend to get on his wavelength is to keep the apparent religious influences towards the front of my thought process when I watch these films. One example of how we can put this into practice is this formulation by Yoda in The Phantom Menace: "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering." What Lucas is most likely inspired by here is the Bhagavad-Gita, which is the most prominent Hindu scripture. The narrative framework of its 700 verses centers on a dialogue between an emotionally disturbed warrior, named Arjuna, and the enlightened universal master, Krishna. The verse is relevant to Yoda in this scene as translated by the Barbara Stoler Miller read as follows: "Brooding about sensuous objects makes attachment to them grow; from attachment, desire arises; from desire, anger is born. From anger comes confusion; from confusion, memory lapses; from broken memory, understanding is lost; from loss of understanding, he is ruined. But a man of inner strength whose senses experience objects without attraction and hatred, in self-control, finds serenity.”
26:30 (Narrator, regarding Yoda's "Let go of everything you fear to lose.") I've observed some people evaluate Yoda's words in this scene and say that they think Yoda's being cold or callous, but he's just taking what Anakin is saying seriously and speaking from the spiritual fulfillment that he feels from the connection to the Force. And if Anakin had done what Yoda had told him to, if he had been willing to let go of his attachment to Padmé, she wouldn't have died. Anakin turns to the dark side not because Padmé is actually in real danger of dying. Rather, he seeks to save himself from feeling the pain of losing her and will do anything to not have to live without her in his life, and he does so without any thought to her own wishes or the natural cycle of life and death. Padmé dies because when Anakin turns to the dark side, he becomes obsessed with power. He becomes unrecognizable from the man Padmé loved and married. Alongside Palpatine, Anakin brings about a holocaust and transforms the democratic Republic that Padmé has spent her entire life upholding into a fascistic empire. Everything she devoted her life to was brought to ruin in a matter of days, and Anakin declares that he had done it all for her in the name of love for her. And the despair that Padmé feels for all this compels her to lose the will to live.
31:05 (Narrator) …despite the jedi's forbiddance of marriage, they do not in any way view having a romantic partner and a loving relationship with that partner as a negative thing. It's not even inherently an emotional attachment. Attachment has to do with the way one relates to having such a relationship, or really any kind of relationship. The rules of the jedi are strict, yes, but they kind of have to be; as Qui-gon says: it's a hard life to live. (Yoda: "The jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind.") Being a jedi isn't a job, and it's not a part-time gig. It encompasses your whole life. In addition to the issues regarding personal fulfillment that we discussed earlier, Anakin and Padmé both have commitments to their respective careers: Padmé serves the galaxy through the Senate, and Anakin through the Jedi Order. The way that I've often heard it described is the idea that you can't have two marriages."
36:40 (Narrator, on Paul Duncan's The Star Wars Archives excerpt: “A Jedi is never lonely. They live on compassion. They live on helping people, and people love them. They can love people back, but when that person dies, they let go. Those that cannot let go become miserable.”) And the jedi aren't just connected to each other as part of the Order, and connected to their friends. In a galaxy far, far away, they're connected to all living things through the Force, and ultimately, this is the entire point of their calling as a jedi. These are people for whom finding a singular person and maintaining a romantically and sexually exclusive relationship with them, cohabitating with them and marrying them, is simply not a way of living that would make them truly happy. They forgo marriage and children and the forming of emotional attachments, and their practices and lifestyle entails for them a different but equally venerable emotional fulfillment.
37:45 (Narrator) …I can guarantee you that if I had such a strong affinity with an energy field that I can move things with my mind, if I got to travel to other planets and maintain interstellar peace, if I had access to the biggest library in the entire galaxy, and if I had a laser sword, marriage would not even cross my mind twice. To be as clear as possible, the intent of this is not to discredit marriage as a path to a fulfilling life. I have the greatest respect for anyone who finds happiness from their connection to a significant other. This video is about how Star Wars can be studied as an example of how people maintain emotional fulfillment in ways that don't conform to the patterns we've internalized around amatonormativity.
40:17 (Narrator) George Lucas created Star Wars to inspire kids to start thinking critically about their own lives and to teach philosophical and spiritual values that have permeated through mythology and fairytales. However, in his drawing upon his personal life experiences, choices of inspiration from various religions, and his personal values, he also crafted a story that shows heroic figures who are unburdened by unhealthy cultural imperatives around amatonormativity and attachments. (Lucas) All of my movies are about one thing, which is the fact that the only prison you're in is the prison of your mind, and if you decide to open the door and get out, you can.
I just watched a fantastic video about what attachment actually means in Star Wars. It might reframe the way you think about the Jedi, Anakin, and the whole conversation around love in the first six movies.
The Value of the Jedi - Love, Attachments, and Amatonormativity
For me personally, one of the biggest takeaways for me was learning the word amatonormativity (means society treats romantic love and marriage as the ultimate, default goal of a meaningful life.) The video digs into how that assumption shapes the way we interpret the Jedi’s teachings, and how it leads us to project our own cultural biases onto the actual story George Lucas is telling.
It isn’t a short video and it’s packed with thoughtful analysis:
how Jedi philosophy gets misunderstood
why “attachment” isn’t the same thing as “love” and is always one-sided
why romantic monogamy gets treated as more important than friendship, community, or family
how Western cultural norms shape the way we rank relationships
and how all of that affects the way we judge Anakin’s fall
It’s also a goldmine of quotes, citations, and resources if you ever want solid support for your thoughts on the Jedi Order in the first six Star Wars films.
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This was my first drawing of Lucifer although admittedly I don’t love it quite as much now! I still think it was a good first attempt!
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Lucifer x GN!Reader
A Fan of the Devil?
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synopsis: Charlie’s father is introduced to the hotels “Gardener”, and comes to find out that they’re a fallen soul from above. He’s also surprised to learn that they’re a fan of his.
warnings: religious pressure(?)
an: Part 1? If this is well received ofc. This is told from Lucifer’s perspective and therefore his view and inner thoughts regarding what’s going on around him. I also threw in the idea that he’s bad with names cuz that feels very accurate to me lol
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He hadn’t expected his daughter’s friends to be so….eccentric, upon meeting them. Of course he knew Charlie’s heart bled gold for any sinner around, but he thought-, more so he hoped that she would keep somewhat better company.
Especially in the revelation of this “RaDiO DEmOn”.
Baggie- Mag- Vaggie, was alright he supposed. She loves his daughter, perhaps just as much as he does,that much he was sure. And while he was a bit disheartened by having not known of their relationship prior, he was still content and moved by the way the two leaned towards each others embrace as they spoke.
His heart ached. Just a bit.
“Are they up in their room again?”
“I think they’re in the Garden again, hon.”
Garden? The hotel had a garden?
“Oh! Oh maybe we could-“
“I don’t know…you know how they can be about us going in there..”
“Pshhhh! I’m sure it’ll be fine Vaggie! Plus remember how they always talked about meeting him??”
Meeting who? Who’s meeting who??
Was there some kind of owl in here?
“Dad!”
“Ah!”
Charlie blinked down at her father in an awkward beam, watching his red eyes dart around nervously, for a moment or two. “Who?!-“ His throat dried and swelled in embarrassment, cracking his voice as he fixed his pride with a dust off his hat. “Uhm…Yes? Char?” Nailed it. Totally. Very cool and suave of you big boss.
His daughter smiled, a crease in her brow before she clasped his arm and tugged him forward, away from the peering eyes of the others and down a long corridor. “There’s someone- Well-there’s someone who’s been dying to meet you! Yknow ever since they arrived here it’s just be non stop-“
Someone wanted to meet him? Why??
Surely they were a weirdo.
His grimace must’ve given him away, because Vaggie, who he hadnt noticed following them till the moment of, gave a small hum, to cut through her girlfriends words.
“They were a bit of a fanatic on earth apparently.”
He dead panned.
“A cultist.”
“No.”
“A satanist?”
“That’s not even what satanists do!”
“…..”
“….A banker-“
“Just-!….Wait and you’ll see.”
He fell silent at that, a frown pulled onto his pale lips as his feet dragged him towards wherever they were headed.
He was a bit stumped when they came upon two large doors, both decorated in shimmering glass mozaics, depicting two dividing scenes. An Angel; hands carefully cupped around a beautifully red apple, kneeled down towards the other mural, was depicted on the right. And on the Left, in the same position, with the same red apple, a demon.
He shifted uncomfortably.
“Wow Honey! I uh- Didn’t know this door even existed! It’s very cool, yes yes very cool- now let’s head back to the-!” He called nervously, a half witted laugh leaving his sharp tooth smile as Charlie nodded vigorously, shiney eyes aglow as she took hold of the golden handles of the ornate doors, pulling them open with a mighty huff as a golden light spilled from inside.
It was startling to say the least, fact proven by how Lucifer felt his wings practically shoot from his back in defense, feathers cascading down in time with the petals and leaves that followed an imaginary breeze through the threshold.
His ears strained to hear the quiet sound of rushing water and leaves shaking, birds chirping and insects buzzing quietly somewhere in the back.
His skin warmed. Not in the way it naturally did from hells weather, but as if the sun was beaming down on his skin for the first time in eons. Of course, he knew it was fake. But it was so close.
“Oh- shit! Charlie!” A voice barked beyond the golden glow of the garden, a figure stepping out from the shadows of a large bush, covered in leaves and flowers as they stumbled clumsily through, racing towards the door and slamming it shut, completely ignorant to the king beside their hip, who’s gaze pierced them in silent wonder.
He hadn’t felt that in a while.
“What did I tell you about coming in unannounced! You could throw off the entire ecosystem! The slightest temperature shift might make one of the flowers wilt or one of the fruits shrivel! At least warn me before-“
“Ahem.”
The sinner paused, shoulders jumping stiffly as they froze, finger pointed towards Charlie rudely from their rant before their gaze shifted to the side.
He heard the way their breath hitched, and his chest puffed slightly in pride, wings fluttering just slightly.
“Hello there.” He was being cheeky, he knew that, though his smile felt a tad too genuine, caused by the sheer awe that glimmered across the sinners face at the sight of him. “Lucifer Morningstar, I don’t believe we’ve had the pleasure of meeting yet.”
He couldn’t find it in himself to dislike that look. He was the avatar of pride after all.
And a small part of him took a rather large enjoyment in the stuttering and stumbling of the sinner before him.
“Y-Your highness! Oh my gosh-“ He grinned “I wasn’t expecting your company- I would’ve dressed more- well I-“ Vaggie coughed from the side, redirecting their attention as they picked the stray foliage form their hair and clothes in a frenzy, towards the garden around them.
With a startled gasp they quickly stepped to the side, nearly tumbling in their haste as they held their arm out, presenting the garden to the king. “It’s..it’s an honor to meet you Sir.” Your voice was steadier, but still thick with anxiety that stuck like molasses to your tongue.
He watched your hand tremble, just slightly. Like his.
His wings fluttered again. A warm feeling bursting through his chest and into his eyes, giving them that shine that reflected the faux golden glow of the sun in the large green room. “The pleasures all mine, My dear. Do you mind explaining what it is you have-.…here”
His smile faltered, gaze stuck on the tree that stood tall and proud in the center of the spacious garden. Its leaves and branches stretched far, each adorned by beautiful red..apples, that hung and shimmered in the light. He expected the familiar ache of guilt to swarm his heart, but was surprised when he found himself breathless instead.
“I hope it’s..somewhat accurate. I’ve only seen recreations of course, never the real thing..” Your voice was a bit muffled in his mind.
He felt you step cautiously beside him, as he continued to gaze reverently at the scene before him. Shadows and memories danced past his eyes and through the patches of sun that decorated the floor. He swore he could hear quiet calls and whispers mix with the rustling leaves.
“You made this?” It wasn’t really a question.
Plants weren’t common in hell. Especially none such as this. They simply couldn’t grow in the rotted soil that spread across his kingdom. And there was simply no pure water to be found that could sustain them. So how-
“I might’ve take a few things before I fell.” You laughed shyly, cheeks warmed under the sun and the intense gaze of the King that snapped towards you.
Lucifer finally got a proper look at you. At your eyes and your features. Your afflictions. There was no denying you were a human soul. It was clear as day and still beat deep in your being. But..
“You were in heaven?” He gasped, eyes wide, mouth agape as he turned fully towards you, the grip on his cane tight as he scanned over the few demonic markings that lined your body, and the big golden X that flashed across your entire being. For only his eyes to see.
A virtuous soul cast out? Was that even possible? To turn away a true, virtuous soul, one of the few who had made it into heavens gate from their life on earth-
“It’s safe to say I didn’t truly agree with heavens teachings. It was too…polished.” There was an easy going smile that matched your tone, as you let your eyes wander towards the tree that wisely outshined every other plant in the garden. You continued.
“Heaven wasn’t my first choice. Frankly I didnt believe in it to begin with. But my folks were..somewhat of zealots. They wanted the best for me, I know that. But I missed…” You paused, seemingly thoughtful as Lucifer watched you with rapt attention, you both becoming ignorant to the two lovers that slipped out.
Charlie smiled softly to herself. Her dad needed this.
“I missed the free will that their religion took away from me.” Your gaze was knowing, almost wise like the tree when it peered back into his own, and Lucifer swore he felt something crack. Something lift from his shoulders and pulled his wings away, letting them spread proudly, in a way he hadn’t felt or experienced in years. Possibly ever.
“You know….I always enjoyed the story of you they told on earth.” Lucifer grimaced again, the vision of you dimming for a moment as he glanced away.
“Is that so? I’m sure they’re singing my praises.” It was a dry laugh, his hands gesturing in a faux confidence, but his lips quirked when he heard your muffled one.
“No, many aren’t. Most seem to align themselves with Heavens view…” You hummed thoughtfully and stepped forwards into the soft grass that peaked through the cracks of brimstone. Lucifer followed, instinctively. He felt leashed by your presence, though not necessarily in a bad way.
“Though there are plenty, who think a little more like me. There’s many versions of your story. I always knew that the original couldn’t be the full story. Too..one sided. Time on earth taught me that there was always a second side. Someone’s else thoughts-, perspective. Falling only confirmed that.”
You words tangled with your fingers that fluttered across the branches of a close bush, caressing a small flower that curled into your touch. “The first thing I did was look for the story. Of the garden. I wanted to replicate it, though admittedly there was never much detail to go off!”
You laughed again and the sound was quickly becoming a favorite of his. It was gentle..understanding. It almost hurt.
“And when I read the story..it was different. More romantic for sure.” You flushed softly, cheeks warm again as you recalled the way the story of Lucifer and Lilith warmed your soul. “But..more honest. Heart breaking even. I couldn’t believe how horrible it was must’ve been…and never knowing how amazing your gift was..” you turned to him again, your gaze so earnest and true that it made him step back.
Lucifer couldn’t deny the warmth in his own cheeks. You were pretty..pretty? That felt mundane. You practically glowed in the garden. And while it wasn’t a perfect representation of what Eden had been, it was better.
Eden had always been..one dimensional. It lacked the depth and feeling that Lucifer had hoped to give humanity. It was gorgeous, there was no denying that. But it wasn’t real.
This…This, is what he had hoped for the garden to be. Alive. Truly alive.
And…you brought it life…because of him? It didn’t feel right in a way. Having spent so many years locked away by himself and mourning the sin and ruin he had created from his own selfish wish.
Selfish? Had it been selfish? At the time, when he had done it, it didn’t feel selfish. He wanted humanity to live. To be alive! Truly, and honestly alive.
And you were so Alive. You were dead here in hell and yet you were breathing life into this gorgeous scene because you chose to. You chose to fall too. You chose to be in hell.
Because of him? Because of his…gift?
It was ironic almost. Laughable even.
Your lips pursed, a worried sweat on your brow as you lost that roaring confidence that bled into your words prior. “I’m sorry- I didn’t mean to preach or anything-“ He stopped you.
“So-.…you’re a fan?” His lips screwed into a wobbly smile, embarrassment creeping up his neck at his less then poetic comment, though the laugh you graced him with almost made the shame worth it.
“You could say that. I personally think I hold the title of number one fan, but you know beggars can’t be choosers I suppose.” You gestured animatedly, a small smirk on your lips as you professed your..favor towards the king, and he gleamed.
“Well!” His hands flew to his suit, straightening it out and letting his chest puff out from its slumped frame. “May I know the name of my, alleged, number one fan?” His words were coy, smug as he gestured to you with a flourish that he had shown to the other residents. (Of course till you had so rudely stunned him to silence)
The smile you gifted him was holy.
“(Y/N)…Your highness.” Your bow was playful, a little awkward and strained, but it made him laugh.
“(Y/n), hm? I’ll be sure to remember that.” His throat cleared briefly, “I…hope you wouldn’t mind me stopping by sometime again soon..I’d like to hear a bit more about your garden.” He liked the way you looked at him in this moment. Disbelieving but so hopeful. Like he was something, someone to gaze at in such a way.
“I’d be honored.”
Maybe you had a fan of your own now, as well.
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This was my first drawing of Lucifer although admittedly I don’t love it quite as much now! I still think it was a good first attempt!
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