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Why fandom decided that Laito had sex with Cordelia?
My position: they never had sex. Bloodsucking only. Not without a certain reason.
I would like to prove that claimimg they were sexual lovers is not correct at all.
Watching the anime only and without any accompanying sources you might not even guess any sex. However the fact that Laito was in love and desired his own mother is obvious. In s01e04 he sighs glaring at the moon remembering the smell, the voice of his beloved' swears eternal love to her; in s01e08 he having pushed his mother off the balcony said that now she belongs only to him forever; in s01e11 he expresses regret that he doesn't see her in hell, and in s01e12 while her dressburning he mumbles something about her (maybe Karl's also but due to contex it must be about Cordelia) and Richter's actions to them.
s01e04:
愛してます. いつまでも いつまでも いつまでも. あなたが望むと望まざるとにかかわらず. 一瞬たりとも あなたのこと忘れたことなんかない. あなたの声 あなたの匂い すべて覚えてる.
Laito: I love you. Always, always, forever. Whether you want it or not. I've never forgotten you for a moment. Your voice, your smell, I remember everything.
s01e08:
これで永遠に僕だけのものになったね
Laito: Now you belong to me only forever.
s01e11:
次に会う時は地獄だと思ってたよ
Laito: I thought the next time we met would be in hell.
期待に添えなくて、残念だわ
Yuidelia: It's a shame it didn't live up to expectations.
いや 期待以上だよ
Laito: No, it's beyond expectations.
s01e12:
一つだけ明らかな真実を教えてあげるよ
Laito: I'll tell you the only obvious truth.
僕たちはもう二度と叔父上やあの人に振り回されない
Laito: That person and you, Uncle, will never be able to wield us again.
Cordelia in s01e08 asked Laito to save her and, holding out her bloody hand, said that she truly loved him:
ライト 私を助けなさい
Cordelia: Laito, save me.
ライト 愛してるわ
Cordelia: Laito, I love you.
本当に
Cordelia: Really.
And that's the whole story of their relationship in anime.
Unlike Ayato who was thrown into the lake in s01e02 and said to live at the its' bottom in s01e07 Laito seems having no reason to hate his mother but the fact that he desired her is an indisputable (his 'you're mine forever').
No official source desribed it as sexual relationship. Never.
This was only thought up by the fans themselves.
Analyzing DL keep in mind key aspects that important to understand the story:
1. the title is based on a bloodsucking fetish: bloodish is a much more intimate process than simply eating, it's erotic;
2. Laito and others are demonic creatures with a distorted nature, they don't feel like humans and have no human heart;
3. DL women are weak physically and magically;
4. Cordelia's blood and even its' smell drove vampires crazy.
In the first game there are only two oddy episodes that fans automatically saw as sex.
1.. DL Laito Dark Epilogue. Laito has a dream of Cordelia coming to him: she says that she is 'not enough' and that she 'loves' him, he promises to 'give her love'.
2. DL Laito Maniac Epilogue. After killing some man Cordelia asks Laito to give her 'warmth'.
The rest flashbacks do not hint at anything at all. Imprisonment in a dungeon (DL Laito Maniac Prologue) and a request to help killing Karlheinz (DL Laito Ecstasy Prologue), Cordelia's murder (DL Laito Ecstasy Epilogue).
But inside Yui Cordelia called her son a 奴隷. It seems to be a special term, we would return to it.
That made fans decide that the mother sex with her own son. If Laito and Cordelia would be human, not bloodsucking demons, I would agree with fans. But from the start I passed the games I noticed many details in Laito's logic that were not that simple.
We have a blood-drinking fetish. Cordelia had special blood. So this story may be more complicated.
More, Blood. There are only two flashbacks with Laito and Cordelia. Dark Prologue and Ecstasy Epilogue. In MB Dark Prologue Laito asks Cordelia in bedroom ‘why doing such a thing’. Cordelia answers because she loves him and what a place in a world where any mother doesn’t love her child. Laito answers that’s ‘here’.
Fans again decide that Laito is hinting at sexualized ‘love’ between him and his mother.
In MB Dark Epilogue and MB Ecstasy Prologue the butler of their castle invited Laito to Cordelia. Laito provocatively asked the reason. To the butler’s unfinished answer Laito only grinned and called him a ‘bad old man’.
In MB Ecstasy Prologue Ayato tried to hammer into his brother that Cordelia didn’t love any of them.
MB Dark Prologue, MB Dark Epilogue, MB Maniac Epilogue are episodes which his relationship with the maid Hilde are shown as he decided to use words of love for his own purposes and to seduce her. His monologues also are hardly grasp their essence, it is often unclear who Laito is talking about - himself, someone or in general.
Dark Fate. Laito refused to acknowledge Cordelia as his mother but Richter scolded him for this. Yui wanted a solution to this problem.
DF Laito Maniac Epilogue. Laito himself suggested to his mother to forget about ‘that person’ because she already ‘has him’. Cordelia snapped that Laito is not Karlheinz and is not a replacement of him. And her answer really affected him (‘If not a replacement who am I?’)
DF Laito Vampire End. Laito having already learned about his father’s experiments makes a grave for Cordelia, calls her ‘kaa-san’ for the first time and says goodbye to her.
In SS for the Dark Fate game he again refers to her ‘kaa-san’. Ayato and Kanato have mom’s blood, so they would be okay (true-sweet-moments).
Lost Eden. Laito only remembers Cordelia once comparing her to Yui whom he suspects of cheating on Kino (I.E Laito Ecstasy Prologue).
Lunatic Parade. Yui stutters about 「張切り」= Laito’s ‘betrayal’ by Cordelia in his childhood (LP Laito Chapter 2).
Chaos Lineage. Some episodes with Yu’s heartbeat and her avoiding Laito memorizing Cordelia again.
That’s all. That made fans thinking Cordelia and Laito had sex.
The CD-drama Versus II Ayato vs Laito even pushed fans to decide that Cordelia raped her son when he was a child. But again Laito’s words are not about it.
However I repeat our bloodsucking story with giving blood that means too much and Cordelia’s special blood suggests a much more difficult story. So then we would learn all the fanbooks, descriptions, dramas and other characters (especially Kanato and Ayato) conversations to understand what it was. Sex or bloodsucking only.
Cordelia inside Yui resisted Laito. Laito saw a resemblance between Yui's resistance and his mother's
In the first game, Cordelia manifested through Yui during the story block scenes (07-10), when we chose S-answers. How can you tell that Cordelia is the one answering for the heroine or somehow influencing her response? Most often,Yui would notice afterward that her mouth seemed to move on its own or that she had done something unexpected.
In Laito's route, the peak moment becomes his statement in response to Yui's words: "Stop it!"
「そういう口を利くと、ますますあの人に似てる気がするね。」
Laito: Nfu. When you talk like that, it feels more and more like you resemble "that person."
And here, by 「あの人」 (that person), he is definitely referring to Cordelia. This happens in DL Laito Ecstasy 10 — in the last scene with a choice of answer in his route. Unfortunately, if you get a bad ending and don't have enough points, this scene won't open. Or if you are on the M-path, the S-answers are automatically skipped. In that case, the player doesn't learn what the entire chain of sadistic answers and Laito's reactions in his route was leading to. And these answers are very important, because they reveal Cordelia — even better than the flashbacks do.
Just think: when Yui pushes Laito away and tells him to "stop," she resembles Cordelia. This means that Cordelia also once pushed someone away — one of the men or Laito himself. Simply the fact: resistance = resemblance to Cordelia.
Since this scene is the culmination of all the S-answers, we can draw certain conclusions about Yui's other sadistic answers as well: they are also connected to Cordelia's behavior. So let's go back to the beginning of the route and trace all the sadistic answers.
• DL Laito Dark 07: During the full moon, Laito properly tastes Yui's blood for the first time and recognizes its taste. We are given a choice just as Laito is about to bite us: we can say "drink my blood" (M), or we can say "I allow you to drink my blood, are you satisfied?" (S). With the S-answer, Laito will note that this arrogant behavior is strange for Yui, but he liked her self-confidence like that too — and not without reason. Yui realizes that this answer only inflamed Laito's desires.
(やられっぱなしなのもイライラするから、たまには…… 逆襲しないと!)
Yui: (It's irritating always being on the receiving end, so sometimes... I have to fight back!)
し、しょうがないから吸わせてあげる!これでいいでしょ?
Yui: W-well, since there's no helping it, I'll let you drink! Is that okay?
くすくすくす。ビッチちゃんのくせに、偉そうにしちゃって やだなあ。
Laito: Hee-hee-hee. Even though you're Bitch-chan, you try to act important – it doesn't suit you.
でも、たまに高圧的っていうのも 結構ときめいたよ。んふ。
Laito: But sometimes, from such dominance, one starts to tremble. Nfu.
(逆に、からかわれた……!)
Yui: (Instead – he just got provoked!..)
• DL Laito Dark 08: The scene where Laito forced Yui to read Richter's bloody-erotic poetry. The M-action is to read it out of desperation, the S-choice is to refuse. In the case of the sadistic answer, Cordelia's direct influence isn't yet obvious; however, Laito will remark that such boldness has aroused him. And again, not without reason.
嫌よ。どうせロクでもないことに 違いないし。 Yui: No way. There's no doubt it's something bad anyway. んふ。いいねえ。ビッチちゃん。そういう毅然としたところも、 少し興奮しちゃうよ。 Laito: Nfu. That's nice. Bitch-chan. That resolute side of you... it gets me a little excited too. こ、興奮しないで! Yui: D-don't get excited! んふ。興奮させるために言った クセに……あぁ、ビッチちゃん。もっと罵ってもいいんだよ? Laito: Nfu. Even though you said it to get me excited... Ah, Bitch-chan. You can curse me out more, okay? (だ、だめだ! やっぱり喜ばれちゃった……!) Yui: (O-oh no! Just as I thought, he ended up pleased...!)
• DL Laito Dark 09: In the church, Laito remarks that he sees passionate desires within Yui's soul. You can agree in response (M-Choice), or you can shut him up (S-Choice): Yui will state it as if Laito himself wants something cruel done to him — and then the boy will only become aroused and admit that he has a weakness for such things.
It's here that Cordelia begins to gain the upper hand in such moments. And, importantly, she does not intend to agree with Laito's words about passionate desires.
――黙りなさい! Yui: ...Shut up! っ……!? Laito: ?! さっきから、おとなしくしていればペラペラと…… Yui: While I've been holding back, you just keep talking and talking... 反対に非道いことされたいのは、貴方なんじゃないの!? Yui: Isn't it you who actually wants to be treated cruelly!? っふ……あはははは、ビッチちゃん いいね、そういうプレイ……ボクは 嫌いじゃないよ。 Laito: Hmph... Ahahahahaha, Bitch-chan, nice. I don't dislike that kind of 'play'. 確かにその通りかも知れない。ボクは昔からね……そういうのには ……弱くて…… Laito: That might be true. You see, I've always been... weak... for that kind of thing... (かえって興奮させちゃったかも......?) Yui: (Maybe I just excited him even more...?)
• DL Laito Dark 10: In the dungeon, the topic of jealousy comes up — Laito considers it normal. He frightens the heroine by saying that nothing can stop him. Yui doesn't like this: "Won't stop... That kinda pisses me off... Hasn't he gone too far?"
For the M-response, you can say "There's nothing I can do about it," or you can blurt out "I'll punish you" (S). Again, the guy will only like it.
――お仕置きするよ? Yui: "...I'll punish you." (って! 私ってば何言ってるのゞ そもそも嫉妬なんて……まったく意味不明じゃない!) Yui: ("Wait! What am I saying?! First of all, jealousy... this is completely absurd!") ふ。いいよ。 むしろ望むところだよ。 Laito: "Nfu. Fine. In fact, I'd welcome that." っ……?! Yui: "...?!" その代わり、堕ちる時は一緒。 ビッチちゃんも連れて行くから。 覚悟してね。 Laito: "But in return, when we fall, we fall together. I'll take you with me, Bitch-chan. Be prepared." (冗談じゃないよ……!) Yui: ("No way...!")
• DL Laito Maniac 07: After the conversation with Richter, Laito begins to angrily pressure the girl, forcing her to confess everything. You can either remain submissive or "fight back": Yui will say she doesn't know anything and immediately be surprised at how sharply she said it — meaning Cordelia is beginning to manifest herself more and more. Laito, once again, will like this behavior of hers.
いい加減にして! 私は知らないって言ってるでしょ?
Yui: "Enough already! I'm telling you I don't know anything!"
……っ……"
Laito: "......"
(っ……!? 自分でも思った以上に乱暴になっちゃった……)
Yui: "(...!? That came out much harsher than I intended...)"
ボク、そういうビッチちゃんの ことも、嫌いじゃないなあ。んふ。
Laito: "I don't dislike this kind of Bitch-chan either. Nfu."
え!?
Yui:"Eh!?"
んふふ、まあいいや。 夜は始まったばかりだし……
Laito: "Nfufu, well, whatever. The night has only just begun..."
じっくり、聞いてやるよ。 ボクの部屋で。
Laito: "I'll hear you out thoroughly. In my room."
• DL Laito Maniac 08: At school, Laito mockingly asks Yui how she feels after what happened and whether it was more pleasurable than "the usual" (yes, he raped the heroine in a previous scene). You can nod in response (M), or you can slap him and shut him up (S). This "outburst" stuns them both: Yui admits she only meant to object verbally, and Laito — will be delighted; he likes it. More and more, Cordelia is controlling Yui's actions: it was she who slapped her son, not Yui.
――いい加減にして! Yui: ...That's enough! slap……っ……!? Laito: ?!...
(っ……ゝ く、口で言うだけのつもりが、思わず手が出ちゃった)
Yui: Ugh, I only meant to say it, but my hand moved on its own) 男性教師: おい、どうした? Teacher: Hey, what's going on? す、すみません。なんでも ありません。ただちょっと彼の頬に 蚊が止まってて…… Yui: S-sorry. It's nothing. It's just that a mosquito landed on his cheek... ……驚いたあ。ビッチちゃんに ひっぱたかれるなんて…… Laito: ...I'm shocked. To get slapped by Bitch-chan... んふ、でも少し、快感。 Laito: Nfu, but it's a little... pleasurable.
• DL Laito Maniac 09: Laito starts a conversation about his theories on why Yui was chosen as the sacrificial bride. And he teases her mockingly. Choice:Either beg him to tell you, or demand it — in the second case, the MC, besides saying "Tell me!", will also threaten him with punishment if he doesn't. Laito will like her reaction again, and Yui will note: it's as if she's spouting some nonsense.
――教えなさいよ!
Yui:...Tell me! If you don't do it right now... I'll punish you!
っ……!
Laito: !..
(って!私、なんてこと言ってるの!?)
Yui: (What am I even saying?!)
ん~……いいね……んふ。 もっと言ってよ。罵って欲しいよ、 ビッチちゃん。ほら! もっと……! Laito: Mmm... nice... Nfu. Say more. I want you to insult me, Bitch-chan. Come on! More...! (怒られるかと思ったら喜ばれた) Yui: (I thought he would be angry, but he was delighted.)
• DL Laito Maniac 10: After putting a chastity belt on Yui, Laito starts to tease the girl. Choice: You can either beg him to stop, or retort with "Stop it, you pervert!": Laito will really like this title, and Yui will then be surprised at what she just said. It was Cordelia who blurted it out for her again.
―やめなさい、このヘンタイ!
Yui: Stop it, you hentai!
(っ……ゞ 私、なんてこと 言ってるの!?)
Yui: (?!.. What am I saying?!) ヘンタイか……ンフフフフ、実にいい響きだね。結構な称号をどうも。
Laito: "Hentai," huh... Nfufufu, it has a rather nice ring to it. A splendid title indeed. なんならずっとボクのことを ヘンタイって呼んでもいいんだよ?
Laito: Why, you can go ahead and call me "hentai" forever, you know? 遠慮します……
Yui: I'll pass...
• DL Laito Ecstasy 07: After talking about the other brides, Laito will emphasize that only Yui has reached the stage of awakening. However, the girl dislikes such remarks, which are said mockingly. We can either thank Laito for this (M), or we step on his foot while admitting it hardly pleases her: Yui will be surprised that she did such a thing, and Laito, pleased by the pain, will compare her to a troublesome princess.
――嬉しくないです。
Yui:...I can hardly be happy about that. っ……!?
な、なんてこと……! 足を、踏んだ? Laito:?!... Wh-what the...!? Did you... step on my foot?
っ……
Yui: ...
(自分が思った以上のことを思わずやっちゃった……)
Yui: (I accidentally did more than I intended...)
…………フッ。でも……この痛みも…… そう悪くないかも。
Laito:...Heh. But... this pain... isn't so bad, maybe.
っ……!?
Yui:?!...
んふっ……
Laito: Nfu...
(この人って、やっぱり実はドMなんじゃないのかな……)
Yui: (This guy... maybe he's actually a real masochist after all...)
ふぅ、やれやれ困ったお姫様だ。逆ギレじゃないか。ボクのほうが今は被害者だって言うのに。
Laito: Phew, my my, what a troublesome princess. Aren't you the one getting aggressive here? Even though I'm the victim right now.
• DL Laito Ecstasy 08: Cordelia finally awakens and speaks with the heroine. However, when choosing the response to the S-request ["kill me"], no influence from the woman is observed.
• DL Laito Ecstasy 09: In the torture room, Laito stages a show, watching as Ayato drinks from Yui. During this, we either beg him to stop or harshly command ["stop it!"]. Here, too, Cordelia did not control the girl's response, however, Laito liked Yui's once again arrogant remark.
っ……やめさせなさい!
Yui:...Stop it!
んふ。そういう上から目線、嫌いじゃない……けど…… これに耐えてこそ、愛でしょ。チュッ。
Laito: Nfu. That condescending tone... I don't hate it... but... enduring this is true love, right. Chu.
(こんなので、誤魔化されないんだから……!)
Yui: (As if I'd let you fool me with something like this...!)
• And so, DL Laito Ecstasy 10 is the finale of the chain of Yui's S-responses, which were either dictated by Cordelia's will or resembled her in action. Laito begins to touch Yui after she accidentally drinks an aphrodisiac — and he wants to hear more insults directed at himself. It's strange that fans overlook how Laito notes the resemblance between Yui and his mother,thereby almost explicitly telling us that resistance = Cordelia's behavior. And all of this excites him because it reminds him of his so-called "beloved" in this way.
やめなさい! そんなこと。
Yui: Stop it! Don't do that.
んふ。そういう口を利くと、ますますあの人に似てる気がするね。
Laito: Nfu. When you talk like that, I get the feeling you're more and more like her.
もっと、罵られたいキブンだよ。ボクをこんな気持ちにさせるなんてキミは本当にイケナイ子だな。
Laito: I'm in the mood to be insulted more. You're truly a naughty girl for making me feel this way.
But that's not all. Besides the S-responses, Cordelia sometimes manifests herself through Yui in other moments. As a rule, we hear a heartbeat beforehand.
• DL Laito Dark 03: Cordelia inside Yui fights back against Laito after he pinned the girl down with his magical forces so that she couldn't resist. At first, Yui didn't understand why she had frozen, but after a heartbeat, she was able to push Laito away — which surprised even herself.ビッチちゃん、いいの? このままだと本当に下着も はぎ取られちゃうよ?
Laito: Bitch-chan, is this okay? At this rate, you'll really be stripped of your underwear too.
ダメに決まってるじゃない!
Yui: No way, that's not happening!
だったらさ、抵抗しなよ。 全身全霊をかけて逆らえば…… ボクくらい振り払えるんじゃないの。
Laito: Then why don't you resist? If you fight back with all your might… you could probably shake me off, couldn't you?
っ……!
Yui: !..
それをしないのは、なぜなんだろうねえ?
Laito: So why aren't you doing that?
……な、ぜ?
Yui: …Wh… why?
(なんで? でも……身体が、 石みたいに固まって……逆らえない)
Yui: (Why? But… my body is as stiff as a rock… I can't resist)
(なんで? これは……恐怖? それとも……)
Yui: (Why? Is this… fear? Or…)
っ……!!
Yui: heartbeat!!!
(いきなり……心臓が……!)
Yui: (My heart… so suddenly!..)
ビッチちゃん……? どうしたの?
Laito: Bitch-chan? What's wrong?
な、んでも……ありません……っ!
Yui: N… nothing… got it! そう? Laito: Really? (なんだろう……この心臓の動悸 ……この屋敷に来てから、 頻繁に起こる……) Yui: (What’s with… this pounding of my heart… it’s been happening so often since I came to this mansion…) (何かの……病気? それとも……) Yui: (Is it some… illness? Or…) まあ、いいや。ビッチちゃんが 逆らわないとボクも手間が省けるし ……その分。 Laito: Well, whatever. If you don’t resist, it saves me the trouble… and that means… ――色々と、楽しめるし、ね? Laito: …I can enjoy myself more, can’t I? っ……!! やめて……っ! Yui: !!!... Stop it!... 痛っ。 Laito: Ow! あ、ご、ごめんなさい……! Yui: Ah, s… sorry!... ……今の痛みの分、 お仕置きしないとね。 ……何して遊ぼうか? Laito: …I should punish you for that pain, though… What shall we do for fun?
By the way, just before that, Laito even suggested that Yui throw a stew at him.
怒って怒って! なんならその 火にくべたシチューの鍋を かけてくれたって構わないよ?
Laito: Get angry, get angry! If you want, I don't even mind if you throw that pot of stew simmering on the fire at me!
そ、んなこと……! Yui: S-something like that...! だって本当にイヤで怒ったら、そのぐらいのことするでしょ? ねぇ早く早く~! Laito:Because if you're truly angry and hate it, you'd do at least that much, right? Hey, come on, hurry up~!
• DL Laito Dark 04: Cordelia inside Yui bites Laito's lip when he forcibly kisses her.
(キス……されてる……!?)
Yui: (A kiss...!? He's kissing me...!?)
んんっ……ん……
Laito: Mmmph... mmm...
っ……や……めてっ……!
Yui: S...stop it...!
っ……!
Laito:...!
(く、唇……噛んじゃった……)
Yui: (A-ah, his lip... I bit it...)
痛いな……まさか唇を噛むなんてね……くくく。久しぶりにボクも一応、 生きてる感覚を味わえたよ。
Laito: That hurts... To think you'd bite my lip... kukuku. For the first time in a long while, I've finally gotten a taste of what it feels like to be alive.
っ……ご、めんな、さい……
Yui:...I-I'm so-sorry...
Thanks to all these responses, we understand not only that Cordelia within Yui was pushing Laito away when he made advances, but also that Cordelia acted this way with her son in the past. Otherwise, Laito wouldn’t see such a resemblance and rejoice, marveling at this similarity.
From this, we understand that in the past, Cordelia:
1. Insulted and scolded Laito ("I want you to insult me more" in DL Laito Ecstasy 10, "I want you to insult me, Bitch-chan" in DL Laito Maniac 09).
2. Threatened punishment ("I'll punish you" in DL Laito Dark 10, "If you don't stop now... I'll punish you!" in DL Laito Maniac 09).
3. Demanded he stop ("Stop it, you pervert!" in DL Laito Maniac 10, "...Stop it!" in DL Laito Ecstasy 09, "Stop this!" in DL Laito Ecstasy 10).
4. Could physically stop him (a slap in DL Laito Maniac 08, pushing him away in DL Laito Dark 03, biting his lip in DL Laito Dark 04, stepping on his foot in DL Laito Ecstasy 07).
5. Sobered him up by calling him a pervert ("Stop it, you pervert!" in DL Laito Maniac 10).
6. Refused him sharply ("No way" in DL Laito Dark 08, "Enough! Didn’t I say I don’t know anything?" in DL Laito Maniac 07).
7. Could yell at him ("Ah, Bitch-chan, yell at me louder, okay?" in DL Laito Maniac 08).
It’s important not only that Cordelia pushed Laito away both in the present and in the past. What’s crucial is Laito’s reaction to this resistance: he rejoices. He enjoys it when Yui (Cordelia) scolds him and calls him a pervert. The words "I'll punish you" and "stop" only arouse him more. Even the slap, the bitten lip, and the pain — he enjoys it all.
In other words, if Cordelia resisted her son in the past in this way, it was futile: Laito enjoyed all of this and it couldn’t stop him.
And therefore, if Cordelia decided to control him through her blood, there’s nothing surprising about it.
A weak woman can’t influence a son who is much stronger than her and desires her. If physical confrontation, verbal demands to stop, and threats of punishment have no effect on him.
However, such behavior from Laito is not his fault. Perhaps this obsession with her blood is connected to the concept of a "thrall" in the canon.
This post is a fragment from a larger article investigating whether there was a sexual relationship between Laito and Cordelia. I recommend checking it out.
LinkedIn to the original article: https://vk.com/@cordekarl-byla-li-u-kordelii-seksualnaya-svyaz
Cordelia is a particularly favorite character of the Diabolik Lovers' lead writer.
Here's the link.
Why did Cordelia NOT 'have sex with Richter in front of Kanato and Laito'?
Part Two: LAITO
Part One: Kanato is still being edited
According to the myths, Kanato wasn't the only one who witnessed his mother's "intimate relationship" with her "lover" - Laito supposedly saw a lot of things, too. But no matter what the fandom makes up for drama's sake, it's really not that bad: the youngest triplet was just unlucky enough to witness Cordelia giving Richter her blood. It happened in the DL Laito Maniac Prologue.
Sometime in the past, Karlheinz ordered his son imprisoned in a dungeon - for what exactly, by the way, is not explained here or in the game.
The scene begins with Richter's poems, which serve as an epigraph.
愛ではないと知りながら。 私は貴女に愛を求める。 そして貴女は、私にそれを与えるふりをしながら、暗闇で舌を出す。 信じれば信じるほどに深みにはまっていく。 これが永遠に続く螺旋階段だと思うといっそのこと。 貴女をここから 突き落としてしまおうかと考えたりもする。 この愛は終わりなき円舞。 この愛は果てなく続く闇。 【リヒター卿】
"Love's not here, I know it well,
Yet still, I beg for your love's spell.
And you, with a hidden tongue's quick tease,
Grant me a reason to hope, and I appease:
The longer I believe, the deeper I fall,
In the abyss of faith, enthralled.
Perhaps,
Like a staircase without end or rail –
This thought begins to prevail.
Maybe, to push you down below –
Such thoughts start to grow.
Like a waltz that never ends, love's embrace.
Akin to darkness without trace."
After that, Laito is shown on a black background — he is talking to the butler:
一出せ! ボクを......ここから出せ!!
Laito: Let me out! Let me out... From here!!!
無理です、坊ちゃま。旦那様にきっく言いつけられております。
Butler: That's impossible, young master. Our esteemed lord has strictly ordered it.
申し訳ございませんが、しばらくはそこで。
Butler: I apologize, you will have to stay here for a while.
ボクをここに縛り付けて、なんの意味があるって言うんだ!
Laito: Tell me, what's the point of restraining me here?
— — 失礼いたします。
Butler: — Please excuse me, now me out.
ハッ、ハハハハ。もうろくジジィ め。ここでボクに反省でもしろと? 馬鹿馬鹿しい!
Laito: Ha, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You marazm old man. You want me to do some self-analysis here? What a stupid thing!
あの外道。人間とのなれ合いが過ぎて、ついに脳まで腐れ果てやがったな!
Laito: There is heresy. You've been consorting out with people to such an extent that your brains are completely rotten!
Then suddenly, against a black background, we see Cordelia:
ーーあら?
Cordelia: Oh?
The background of the dungeon appears. Laito rejoices (but not for long):
......!? 助けに来てくれたの?
Laito: ...?! Come to save me?
あら、ウフフ。ごめんね、ライト。それは違うのよ。
Cordelia: Oh, haha. I'm sorry, Laito, but it's not like that.
え?
Laito: Eh?
— — なぜお前がここに?
Richter: — Why are you here?
っ......それは、ボクの台詞だよ。
Laito: tsk... I'm the one who has to ask [literally: "that's my line"].
はいはい、そこ。ケンカしないで。それより、リヒター......早く来て。
Cordelia: Okay, okay, that's enough. Don't "quarrel." Much more important, Richter... Come quickly.
っ!?
Laito: ?!
Laito's sprite disappears - Richter's sprite appears in its place:
しかし...…
Richter: But cos...
その気がないなら、アタシ、もう行きます。
Cordelia: Since you're not in the mood, I'm leaving.
っ! お、お待ち下さい!
Richter: tsk! P-please wait!
あら。ウフフ......アタシにそんなに行って欲しくないの?
Cordelia: Oh. Ah-ha-ha... you don't want me to leave so badly?
当たり前です。私は......貴女のためなら...…
Richter: Of course. I'm... for your sake...
分かっているわ。さあ、早く。待ち焦がれてアタシ......熱いわ...…
Cordelia: I know. Come on, hurry up. The anticipation is making me... "burn"(literally "hot")... *rustling*
コーデリア......愛しています。
Richter: Cordelia... love you.
ウフフ。リヒター......アタシもよ?
Cordelia: Ah ha ha, Richter... Me too.
っ......!?
Laito: tsk?!…
っ......コーデリア...…
Richter: tsk... Cordelia...
ん っ......ん ......ね、ライト。貴方はいい子ですもの。
Cordelia: M-m... listen, Laito. You're a good boy.
And again, instead of Richter, next to Cordelia, we see a sprite Laito:
......!!
Laito: ...!!!
ね、ライト?
Cordelia: Yes, Laito?
...…
Laito: ...
Cordelia's sprite disappears, the background of the dungeon is replaced with black - Laito begins to smile and think:
......うん。そうさ。ボクは......ボクは......イイ子なんだから。
Laito: ...Yeah. That's right. I... I... am a "good" boy.
-— — それにボクは、こういうの......むしろ興奮しちゃうほうだしね。
Laito: — That's why something like that... rather unconsciously exciting.
This is where the flashback ends.
All the fans then decided — and still believe — that Cordelia decided to have sex with Richter in front of her son — and forced the boy, as a "good boy," to watch the copulation. I would agree with this point of view — if our heroes were not vampires, but ordinary people, and if the story was not based on the fetish of drinking blood. Since the process of absorbing blood is eroticized according to the canon, then only he could be implied in this scene.
We hear the rustle of clothes — this sound always accompanies the blood-drinking scenes when the boys expose the neck, back and other parts of the heroine's body, into which they are going to dig their fangs.
That is, the rustle cannot be considered proof that Cordelia took off her dress or Richter lifted her skirts — for that very specific purpose.
Also, Cordelia utters a line that many took as a desire to have sex soon:
「待ち焦がれてアタシ...... 熱いわ......」:
• 「待ち焦がれて <= 待ち焦がれる」 — 'to be impatient for, to wait (anxiously) for, to eagerly look forward to, to long for'
• 「アタシ」 — «me»
「熱い」 = «hot»
• 「熱い」 — "hot," "ardent, passionate; in love."
But according to the canon, the body can burn from the expectation of blood drinking. There are many examples of this.
In the Short Story 'Fairytale' from Kanato Character Book, Kanato says:
もう温度は失われてしまった血だけど、どんなお菓子よりも癖になるほどの美味しさは変わらない。
"Her blood had already lost its temperature, but her deliciousness had not changed, the dependence on which was greater than on any candy."
According to the context, Yui's blood turned cold. And it's much more pleasant for a vampire to drink hot. Subaru told us about this in MB Subaru Ecstasy 07:
お前は血を飲まないから知らないだろうが……
Subaru: You don't know because you don't drink blood.…
熱で火照った人間の血は熱くてうまいんだ。お前今、風呂上りで火照ってんだろ。
Subaru: The blood of a human bursting with heat is hot and delicious. And now you're burning up after taking a bath.
In this case, Yui got hot with the help of a bath. But there were other ways mentioned in the canon. For example, with the help of fangs, the body begins to burn from the bite.
MB Ruki Dark 03:
(……ルキくんが私の血を吸う時って……)
Yui: (... When Ruki-kun drinks my blood...)
(こんな……身体が熱くなるような変な気持ちになったりするのかな……)
Yui: (I wonder if he also gets a strange feeling, as if his body is... starting to burn)
MB Ruki Ecstasy 04:
血を… …んっ……吸われると……
Yui: With drinking... m... blood…
身体から……力が奪われていくみたいで……なのに、熱くなって……
Yui: It seems like a body... loses strength... But it's getting hot…
In CL Laito Story 07, the triplets used fire to "prepare" Yui's blood.
However, body temperature does not rise only after a bite. The mere anticipation of it, the expectation of blood-drinking, according to the characters' remarks, contributes to the "hot":
MB Subaru Ecstasy 07:
違う。オレに触れられている部分からたしかに 熱を感じてるはずだ。
Subaru: No. You must be feeling the heat right where I'm touching.
ユイ……。お前自身も求めてるんだよ。
Subaru: Yui... you're asking for it.
オレのキバをな……んっ。
Subaru: My fangs... m...
Everywhere 「熱」 in the context of the state of the body during blood-drinking.
It turns out that the fact that Yui feels the heat even before the fangs sink, betrays her desire to feel them in herself. And in the flashback with Cordelia and Richter, everything is similar: her body "burns with expectation" — it allegedly asks, craves a bite.
In MB Kou Heaven 03, Yui admitted that her body was getting hotter from the desire to drink her blood, and directly asked Kou to do it.
(ん…..身体が熱くなってくる……血を……吸って欲しい……! )
Yui: (Mmm... My body's heating up... It wants... for blood to be drunk!...)
Laito said the same thing in his very first CD drama ドS吸血CD Vol.4 逆巻ライト:
[17:44] "As I slowly run my tongue over it, I can definitely tell that right underneath it, your blood starts to bubble and flow to the surface, slowly heating up in those spots... whispering to me, begging me to flow into my body sooner rather than later."
[18:07] "Your blood is so hot, huh? It must be so happy, because it will turn into energy circulating through my veins? It's worth getting close to you, and your blood starts begging to drink it."
[18:58] "But no matter how scared you are, it's worth remembering the pleasure of me eating you... as your body slowly starts to hot up, right? The pleasure of me dominating you, desiring you..."
From the anticipation of the moment when the fangs sink into the heroine's body, it heats up = burns. But did Cordelia herself "burn" = desire the fangs in this way?
And now let's remember: in the first game, Cordelia asked little Kanato to sing, because his singing made her "body start to burn" (DL Kanato Ecstasy Prologue). Many still claim with full confidence that the first wife was sexually aroused by her son's voice. But it's not about "sexual arousal": she simply prepared her cold blood for blood drinking, made it hot in this way. Cordelia, unlike Yui, is also a demon — we realized from the anime that vampires have icy skin.
(It seems that the touches or fangs of the men who drank her could hardly kindle a "flame" in her and make her blood boil, since they had to resort to such sophisticated methods).
DL Sequel Kanato
Similarly, in DL Laito Maniac Epilogue, Cordelia responds to Laito's words by asking him to "give her some warmth":
DL Laito Maniac Epilogue:
今日のアタシはとっても寒がりなの……アナタの温もりが欲しいわ。
Cordelia: Today, I am terribly cold... and I want your warmth.
Of course, by analogy with all the examples discussed above, it's clear that the conversation is about blood-drinking, which Cordelia also used to control Laito. But why was she so cold?
Abnormal cold was often felt by other DL characters — Kanato and Shu. The cold is a consequence of their loneliness and despair.
DL Kanato Maniac 07:
こんなんじゃ、全然足りない。 ……だから、僕は……雨が降るたびに、 寒くて寒くて……っ。
Kanato: This isn't enough... That's why... whenever it rains, I get so cold, so, so cold...!
僕の寒さも……孤独も、 絶望も……っ、こんなんじゃ、 癒やせないんです……!
Kanato: My coldness... my loneliness, my despair...! This isn't enough to heal them...!
(……孤独と、絶望……?)
Yui: (...Loneliness and despair?...)
Kanato feels this eerie cold during the rain — it was on a rainy night that he burned his mother's corpse (DL Kanato Ecstasy Epilogue), hoping to make her exclusively his. Now, looking at Teddy, which holds her ashes, he understands that he only received "remains," which are "not enough" for him.
This is the answer to the question of why Cordelia asked Kanato to sing to her and felt terribly cold: it wasn't about sexual arousal at all; she felt the same coldness from her own despair and loneliness.
Parallel Episodes: DL Laito Maniac Prologue + Ecstasy 09
We've established that the body of a victim or a demon can literally burn from a bite or the anticipation of bloodsucking.
Now we need to understand what excites Laito, what arouses him: is it when he watches someone else drink from or have sex with his victim?
In his own route, there's a scene where he precisely recreates something he once saw in the dungeon — DL Laito Ecstasy 09. In this scene, Yui finds herself in a torture chamber, where she meets Ayato. He tries to advise her to "do it" and not to "remain faithful" to Laito.
DL Laito Ecstasy 09:
間いたんだよ。オマエがそろそろ覚醒するって話をよ。だからさ、ちょっとばかし、味見ってやつ ?
Ayato: I heard... that you're about to awaken. So, I thought, why not a little taste test?
味見……!?
Yui: A taste test...!?
半分人間で半分ヴァンパイア。そいつの味はとんなもんかねえってさ。
Ayato: Half human and half vampire. I wonder what that taste is like.
ーーヤらせろよ。
Ayato: Let me do it.
そういうわけには......いかないよ。
Yui: No... absolutely not.
んだよ、操たててんのかあ? クックック。だとすればアイツには意味ない行為だぜ?
Ayato: What, are you preserving your chastity/fidelity? Heh-heh-heh. If it's for him [Laito], isn't that a meaningless act?
アイツはな、女がヒドくされればされるほどコウフンする真性の変態だぜえ?
Ayato: Didn't you know? The more harshly a woman is treated, the more that genuine pervert gets off on it?
っ...…
Yui: ...
本当は興味あるんだろ?アイツしか知らないなんてちょっと損してるて思わねえ?
Ayato: You're really curious, aren't you? Don't you think you're missing out a bit by only having known him?
他のヤツラのキバはとんな感じなのか......くっくっく、 そういうの、味わいたくなんのが人間だろう?
Ayato: What do the fangs of other guys feel like...? Heh-heh-heh, isn't that the kind of thing a human would want to experience/taste?
And by "this," only bloodsucking is implied, while "fidelity" specifically refers to the fact that Yui had not yielded to another guy's fangs.
Ayato only wishes to drink Yui's blood. He has no intention of having sex with her.
But then Laito himself appears in the torture chamber — it's interesting and important what question he asks his brother and how.
さあ、ね。ていうかさ、アヤトくん、この子に何する気だったんだよ。ことと次第によっては...…
Laito: Who knows. Anyway, Ayato-kun, what were you planning to do to this girl? Depending on the circumstances...
嬲り殺しにするよ?
Laito: I might torture you to death.
When Laito delivers his first line, his sprite shows no smile, and his eyes are narrowed. For the second line, his expression becomes aggressive. Furthermore, the word "what", which is usually written with the kanji 「何」 or hiragana 「なに」, is here highlighted in katakana — as 「ナニ」. The emphasis is on it — Laito is concerned with "what exactly" Ayato intended to do to his victim. If his brother was planning to do something with her that Laito wouldn't approve of, he might even "torture him to death."
Ultimately, the young man gets a "brilliant" idea: Laito suggests that Ayato drink Yui's blood, while he himself intends to observe the event. Ayato accepts the offer.
In the process, Yui notes that her body, once again, "is burning, blazing." And Laito observes that she is clearly enjoying someone else's fangs. He also calls the girl the same name Ayato used for his mother: 「アバズレ」 = "whore," "slut."
滅多にない味がするぜえ?ん……んん……っ……
Ayato: This taste is quite rare, isn't it? Mmm... m-mm...
(ライトくんが見てる前で……こんな。でも……でも……身体が……熱くなってくる……逆らえない)
Yui: (Laito-kun is watching... how can this be. But... but... my body... is starting to burn... I can't resist)
あぁっ……!!
Yui: A-ah!!!...
ああ、ビッチちゃん、気持ちがいいんだね…… ボク以外の男にキバを立てられて、よがるなんて……
Laito: Ah, Bitch-chan, you're enjoying this, aren't you?... Being bitten by a man other than me and moaning...
キミは本当に、アバズレだな。
Laito: You truly are a slut.
Here, we need to follow Laito's logic.
It turns out he can offer his victim's blood to another man. He will watch as this other man drinks from her. This will arouse him.
But if this other man does "something" inappropriate with the girl, Laito will kill him. In anger. And here, "something" implies sex.
Let's return to the dungeon episode with Cordelia and Richter. Laito, watching them, was also smiling and getting aroused. That is, he behaved exactly the same way he does now, observing Ayato drinking Yui's blood. If Richter had had sex with his "beloved" in front of him in the dungeon then, the young man would not have been aroused — he would have been just as enraged, ready to torture his uncle to death.
In short, in DL Laito Ecstasy 09, Laito is currently recreating what he saw in the past — in the flashback from DL Laito Maniac Prologue. Only now, Yui is in Cordelia's place (who, by the way, smells like Cordelia and tastes like Cordelia), and Ayato is in Richter's place. Everything proves that no sex between his mother and uncle happened in front of him in the past either. Cordelia simply made Laito watch another man drink her blood. And not without reason.
However, Laito is not only recreating a scene from the past now — he wants to do something to Yui in the present that he couldn't do to Cordelia back then. To punish the one who erred. Therefore, he will project his unrealized desire:
— — ビッチちゃん。これが終わったらお仕置きだよ、たっぷりね。だから......我慢しなよ。
Laito: Bitch-chan, when this is over, you'll be punished, thoroughly. So... be patient.
And we will conclude the topic by examining the pages from the DL Sequel Laito manga. They illustrate that very scene in the dungeon. Let's analyze each frame and every quote.
First frame: A bewildered Laito behind bars.
Second frame: Laito behind bars, Richter's hands on Cordelia's half-exposed back. And two lines of dialogue.
......いいのですか?
...Is this okay/normal?
— most likely, this line belongs to Richter: it wasn't in the game.
ええ だから......早く来て。
Yes, so... come quickly.
— and this phrase should belong to Cordelia: the second part of the line is also in the game.
3, 4. Third frame: Cordelia's neck is exposed, straps are down, her dress is held at her chest. Richter's face is near her neck, behind her hair. Fourth frame: Laito's astonished face.
.…..ね、ライト。貴方はいい子ですもの。
Listen, Laito. You're a good boy, aren't you?
— Cordelia's line is almost identical to the game's — except for "m-m" at the beginning.
そこで見ていてくれるわよね?
Then/therefore you'll watch, won't you?
— but this phrase was not spoken in the game: apparently, they decided to add it to the manga to further prove the point: Cordelia aims for her son to watch what's happening.
5, 6. Fifth frame: Laito in the dungeon, Cordelia's and Richter's shadows on the floor.
Sixth frame: Another shot of Cordelia — flushed, Richter's face still buried in her hair.
......うん。そうさ。ボクは
...Yeah. That's right. I'm...
......ボクは......イイ子なんだから。
I'm... a "good" boy, after all.
— completely matches the game version: this is one line from the game, broken into two parts in the manga.
7. Moving to the next page: Now Laito has a pleased expression.
こういうの
This kind of thing
むしろ興奮しちゃうほうだしね
rather excites me unconsciously
— a slightly shortened line from the game.
That's all. Besides the lines of dialogue, which for the most part repeat phrases from the game (which we have already analyzed), we need to pay attention to the visual sequence.
First: the way Richter buries himself in Cordelia's hair in two frames exactly replicates the position of Yui and Ayato in the CG from DL Laito Ecstasy 09. That very scene analyzed above, where Laito recreates his memories.
Ayato is definitely drinking Yui's blood at this moment — we understand this from the dialogue and sounds. However, there is no blood on the girl's neck, no bite marks, and Ayato's face is buried in her hair. It's not strange that Richter's face, while drinking Cordelia's blood, is similarly buried in her hair, and there are no bite marks or blood on her neck either.
Second: in the manga, the boys sometimes undressed Yui down to her underwear to drink from her neck. It's logical that Cordelia would also lower her dress straps for the same purpose.
How is this episode described in the fanbook for the first game?
As an exclusive blood-drinking scene.
自分の中で目覚めたライトの母・コーデリアの意識に戸盛う主人公。ライトはそんな彼女をアヤトに差し出し、吸血させます。ライトの目の前でアヤトに吸血され、快楽を感じてしまう自分に対して覚える混乱。コー デリアのこと、ライトの行動……数々のことが主人公の心をかき乱します。
"The main character is confused by the consciousness of Cordelia — Laito's mother — awakening within her. Laito offers her to Ayato, allowing him to drink her blood. Being drunk from by Ayato in front of Laito, she is bewildered by the pleasure she feels. Cordelia, Laito's actions... — many things trouble the heroine's heart."
After all that has been presented, we can draw an unambiguous conclusion:
Cordelia deliberately allowed Richter to drink her blood in front of Laito — nothing more.
Everything attests to this:
• the message of the phrase "the body burns with anticipation";
• Laito's logic when recreating an analogous scene with Ayato and Yui;
• Laito's willingness to share the girl's blood with another man, but his readiness to kill if someone were to have sex with her;
• the position of the figures in the manga;
• the correspondence of the figures' positions in the manga and the game's CG, where only bloodsucking definitely occurred.
There is no other possible interpretation of this scene. The conclusion in this case is unequivocal.
What we have just analyzed is not a theory; it is a fact. The one and only possible one. If any reviewers on their YouTube channels claim otherwise, they are incorrect. I have thoroughly explained the meaning embedded in these scenes, how they are revealed and presented. Any other interpretation, a.k.a. "Cordelia had sex with Richter/her lovers in front of Kanato/Laito," is fundamentally wrong.
The entire original article:
Более десяти лет прошло с выхода первой игры. Они продолжали верить в глупейшую ересь, будто Корделия занималась с Рихтером сексом на гла..
Part One: Kanato is still undergoing editing, but the section on Laito is completely finished.
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Как на балалайке не играй всё равно будешь рисовать дьявольских возлюбленных
As one reads more Drama CDs, it becomes increasingly apparent that 1) Reiji is a saint for putting up with ALL of them, Mukamis and Tsukinamis included, and 2) he deserves either extreme monetary compensation or permission to kill them all
when i tell you i’ve never felt more bad for this man than when he made HIS favorite food for subaru (because subaru doesn’t have one) and both subaru and kanato ate the whole thing without saving any for him. and he had made two servings so he WOULD be able to have some.
mind you this was AFTER making the other four their respective favorite foods, ALREADY including kanato’s sweets, and got not one single thanks
and then subaru and ayato start to fight and wreak the whole place
my man just wanted his tea time and this is what happens 😭😭😭
I'd love to go on walks alone at night but the chance that I'll get kidnapped is way too high
answering the looming question: what the hell was karlheinz actually doing with the adam/eve project?
(i.e., a 3 a.m. manifesto by yours truly on divine boredom, determinism, and why ketchup daddy keeps running the same psychological hunger games)
sit down. hydrate. adjust your emotional support diatwink bc your gurl is about to attempt something extremely dangerous: making the DL plot make sense (the horror. the audacity. truly (⸝⸝⸝╸w╺⸝⸝⸝))
(yes, i am aware most inconsistencies in this franchise are probably just the result of rejet writing lore the way one writes a grocery list while concussed. yes, this is basically my delulu ted talk. however if rejected theories about fictional vampire eugenics were a resume line, this would be mine lmao)
the immediate problem appears when you play through lost eden and realize the story contradicts itself with the confidence of a man who has never reread anything he has written:
in kanato’s route: seiji is basically a normal loving father who had nothing to do with yui being dumped into the suckamaki household
in subaru’s route: he is a power-hungry zealot attempting to marry yui—whom he thinks is a witch—so he can ascend to dictator of the demon world
the tonal whiplash is so severe i had to stare at the wall for ten minutes just to remember my own name 💀 so naturally the question becomes: why does reality keep rearranging itself depending on which route you’re in?
the answer is (unfortunately) the world’s most manipulative condiment: karlheinz
the easiest way to understand the dl universe is that it’s less a world and more a gigantic, controlled ant farm run by one extremely bored, extremely powerful demon king who decided the scientific method should involve 2000% more psychological warfare against his own children. most interpretations of his plan stop at either ‘he wants a worthy successor’ or ‘he’s trying to create the perfect adam/eve'. both explanations sound initially reasonable until you notice he never seems particularly invested in any specific outcome
sometimes he encourages a stable ruler. sometimes he sets the stage for total societal collapse. sometimes he psychologically detonates his own sons like emotional landmines just to see which way the shrapnel flies. this is not the behaviour of someone pursuing a clear goal, but one whose running experiments
to understand why, you have to look at karlheinz less as a unintentionally comical villain and more as a god who accidentally achieved too much competence. he manipulates bloodlines with surgical precision, engineers entire childhoods, predicts people’s emotional reactions with terrifying accuracy… wars, marriages, rivalries, alliances—he arranges them like chess pieces. and the unsettling part? he is almost always right
which sounds impressive until you realize the horrifying implication: if karlheinz can predict everyone perfectly, then no one in this universe actually has free will. not humans. not demons. not even the mythical adam/eve he keeps kicking like a dead horse. everything becomes a closed system of cause and effect. and, if you are an immortal being who understands the entire algorithm, congrats: you're now trapped inside the world’s most elaborate loop
this is where the adam/eve project starts to make sense—not as a romantic myth, but as a philosophical panic attack. the real thing karlheinz appears to be searching for is not the perfect ruler, but an outcome he cannot predict = he's trying to disprove his own omnipotence (not because he is humble. imagine lmao)
if everything is predictable, existence is just a prerecorded movie. even his own decisions are just the inevitable result of prior causes. imagine being smart enough to realize that, and immortal enough to have to watch it forever. you’d start building weird experiments too. which is exactly what karlheinz does
he constructs elaborate systems—bloodlines, rivalries, prophecies, succession crises—and then removes himself from the immediate equation. the idea is that if he creates enough complexity, eventually someone will do something outside the model, something he cannot foresee. but the problem is that this strategy contains a very obvious philosophical flaw: he built the system. this means every possible outcome still exists inside the boundaries he created. even an supposedly ‘unexpected’ result might simply be a possibility he failed to calculate—not proof of genuine freedom. so the experiment cannot actually prove what he wants it to prove
and if karlheinz is half as intelligent as the story insists he is, he absolutely knows this. which turns the entire project into something much stranger. it isn’t a test designed to confirm free will, but to generate uncertainty—the closest thing to freedom that a deterministic universe can offer
this also explains why he pressures his sons in such oddly specific ways. he doesn’t just give them power, but forces them into decisions that collide directly with their deepest fears:
subaru fears becoming his father, so karlheinz shoves that inheritance straight into his hands.
reiji fears failing the people who depend on him, so karlheinz burdens him with the full weight of kingship.
kanato fears abandonment, so karlheinz isolates him in a role that places him completely outside ordinary relationships: to cleanse the world
these are not random cruelties. karlheinz seems to believe that if someone is forced directly onto the path they dread most and still makes an unexpected choice, that choice might finally escape the predictable patterns of trauma and instinct. in other words, he is trying to corner free will until it reveals itself
the reason his plans often look contradictory—apocalypse here, stable monarchy there, emotional devastation everywhere—is because the outcome itself was never the point. variation is:
if demon society survives under a new king, interesting
if the world collapses entirely, also interesting
if someone rejects the entire structure he built, that’s practically jimmy christmas
any scenario that breaks his predictive model would count as success. this is also why the adam/eve myth exists in the first place. this myth represent a theoretical singularity in his system: two people choosing each other in a way that overrides every factor shaping them—biology, trauma, manipulation, destiny, all of it. if love could somehow overpower the entire causal chain, that would be the closest thing to proof that free will exists
whether karlheinz actually believes this is unclear. personally, i suspect adam/eve are less a goal and more a story he tells himself so the experiment feels meaningful. because, without it, what he’s really doing is just endlessly rearranging people’s suffering like furniture
and here is the tragic part: for all his power, karlheinz is stuck in the exact same behavioral loop he criticizes demon society for—identify stagnation → attempt to control the system → cause chaos → observe → repeat. even his attempt to escape determinism is itself deterministic. he cannot stop manipulating, because manipulation is the only tool he has
which means the experiment will never truly end. karlheinz may suspect the universe is completely predetermined. but as long as he keeps building new scenarios—new sons, new rivalries, new possible endings—he never has to accept that conclusion with certainty. and for an immortal being trapped inside his own perfectly understood universe, uncertainty might be the closest thing to hope he has left
Maybe Karl can fall in love.Maybe he's cursed and wants a solution to demon worlds problems (he's God but he gained his powers.He wants a real change for his people.)

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DIABOLIK LOVERS CHARACTERS WITH THE HEADCANON GENERATOR
(May or may not be accurate)
I drew my queen Reina from Angel's Friends
She is literally my favorite character in the 1st season. Sometimes I think that the idea of a reboot of this show is an amazing because the whole concept is really engaging and could be presented better in a different plot structure.
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I predict that after Reina banishes the angels and demons, Blu and his people (those remaining in limbo are neutral, meaning they are neither good nor bad) will become earthlings. Reina can set earthly ones free if she wishes. Reina and Blu,Maliki were capable of making their own decisions without having angels or demons... In fact, they performed good and evil deeds even without them so natural ones don't needs angels and demons lol.Maybe in this story angels and demons were sent to the earth for embracing their own complex nature...They need humans not other way around?Raf and Sulfus did what they did but if they was in the limbo for kissing they would start a war against the angels and devils or they can try to be human together?
Honestly I don't like Sulfus but I ship him with Blu (Blu is only fictional female character ever resemble me...😕) .
Malachia was making potions (he was forcing people to do many things, it was against their will. ) for rich people.He was greedy af.He isn't innocent at all.Reina was in love with him yet she didn't cause harm until he become dangerous.She stopped Malachia's evil plans.Maybe that's why eternal ones will call her -they didn't let her to be a demon - the natural one.Reina also helped Malachia's potential victims. Raf,Dolce and Sulfus were free from blame as if nothing happened but Reina's life was ruined forever.Maybe Reina was exceptional angel and she was punised because eternals know Reina was going to take over one day if they don't use her sin as a shield.(Reina is Queen of Limbo and she take out all the angels and the devils with ease.After all Malachia was going to the hell as a human.High spheres saved Raf's future.)
This "divine" societies serves to themselves.Without humans they have no meaning in their life.Maybe they are natural results of good and bad.(Maybe Reina wouldn't be able to change anything because she would have to make a new hell and heaven for humans/naturals in the future order to save their existence...Reina actually tried -she didn't make him her slave but also didn't let him go order to use his ability to go earth,heaven and hell - to become "good" by trying to save Malachia from hell.She was simply replacing angel-devil dynamic with something else (?) and in that reality nothing was going to change for humans...If Reina take over the human world what will happen to earthly ones when they die?Can they still go to the heaven/hell/limbo or can they go to the somewhere Reina create for them?Can natural ones go to the hell/heaven even if they ended up in limbo after their demise and why Arkhan said "Raf can see him one day" after Malachia died?Libra of Veto is destroyed then why Raf and Sulfus decided to become human? Maybe Malachia and Angelie were eternals but they reborn as humans for their love.
wow , just wow. loved it
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Everyone always questions how tf Kanato is related to his other twin brothers bc they look nothing alike THE BETTER QUESTION IS HOW THE FUCK are Laito and Ayato related to Karl Heinz (speaking looks wise) WHERE TF DID THE RED HAIR COME FROM??? Last time I checked ain’t none of them got red hair ANYWHERE no not even Cordelia’s pubes. So who did she bang👀👀👀
The feminine urge to get worse
Has anyone ever noticed how laito's eyes(his irises specifically) are green in haunted dark bridal but silvery-blue in more,blood? Or is it just me? I swear i can't be the only one who noticed this
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Has anyone ever noticed how laito's eyes(his irises specifically) are green in haunted dark bridal but silvery-blue in more,blood? Or is it just me? I swear i can't be the only one who noticed this
i don't think ayato was cordelia's favorite son, but he was the only one she truly considered as her child. we all know cordelia and laito's relationship, and even with kanato - she sleeps with richter in front of him and talks about how his voice arouses her. ayato is the only one of her kids who gets treated ... like a kid. she teaches him skills, she has expectations of him. cordelia never says \ does anything sexual around him (at least not that i can remember). their relationship - abusive as it is - does have the boundaries and characteristics of a mother and son relationship.
another interesting detail i've noticed is that cordelia's way of parenting ayato is similar to beatrix's. of course, beatrix never physically or intentionally harms her boys, but she has high expectations & wants shu to excel and attend his lessons. when you think about it, beatrix is the only model of motherhood cordelia has. she doesn't have a mother. so i think she just imitates what she thinks beatrix is doing. there is something very unnatural in seeing cordelia interacts with ayato. like this woman has absolutely no idea how to be a mom, so she just copies what she sees beatrix does.
How do people know her private life? They don't.Azusa and Yui adopt kids instead of doing something else(Why?Well,maybe they don't want vampire kids to drink her blood.)
Cordelia's dress was modest in the past. Maybe Cordelia's life changed because of her dark destiny.(Even more modest than random demon women.)
Kanato's voice wasn't arousing for her.Also Subaru stated his voice made him happy as if Kanato's voice was "special to listen".
A vampire hears and know a human can't because his magical abilities so Ayato is just like Laito and Kanato.Cordelia throw Ayato the lake and she give her blood to Richter when he was in the lake (A vampire can't die.Blood drinking means loyalty and love.When he saw Cordelia with other men he suffer a lot because he feel life only get worse...)