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She dug up the truth about the identity of the Hawk Moth on her own — the truth she’d been craving all season. I don’t understand why she needs this, except to satisfy her curiosity, but I’m no match for the show’s new writers with their brilliant plot twists. But whatever.

Okay.

She dug up the truth on her own, she came to Marinette herself, behaving like an abusive boyfriend, she dug it up herself, she put pressure on her on her own, and then she got offended because no one gave her a candy for her efforts. She’s such a good girl — she got involved where she wasn’t asked, and now she’s telling everyone how they should behave and act.

Oh my God, I’m so glad their friendship is over, because it was clear from the Revelator episode that nothing good would come of Alia finding out the truth — just from the look on her face.

Because she’s like a child who, having strong moral convictions about a certain topic, will throw a tantrum if something happens that doesn’t fit her black‑and‑white view of the world. And, strangely enough, that’s exactly what happened in the finale.

It was such a nothing burger for what it was hyped up to be like he went “feral” for kinda no reason and it wasn’t even a plot point just kind of a joke that attributed nothing to the plot

It didn’t really hinder the heros, it didn’t really fit the level of urgency, it just happened

Like I would’ve loved it if it went any direction instead of whatever that was

when I saw the trailers I was expecting marinette to be actually injured for cat noir to be looking the way he did, not manhandled by her uncle

And I would of honestly been fine with it being over nothing if it had any sort of plot relevance like if cat noir was getting in the way of the other hero’s by being so tunnel visioned but he wasn’t even an inconvenience to them

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Or maybe I'm completely wrong because I want Chat Noir to know something and not be so lost.

Also, the secret that Lila reveals is probably that Hawkmonth was Gabriel Agreste, and Adrien goes to Natalie about this, and Natalie ends up discovering who Chat Noir is. This makes sense because Marinette's parents know now, so maybe Adien's parental figure should know as well.

And about the traitor theory: Chat Noir after discovering everything? I feel that that would be the only thing that would actually create a good plot twist. Like, would it be really that good if Kagami was a traitor? Or Alia? Nino? Felix? Someone more irrelevant. Nah, Chat Noir/Adrien is the only want that could make sense since he has the most reasons to go against Ladybug because of everything she has been hiding, both to Adren and Chat Noir separately. Apart from this, It would be so f**k up but also funny if in season 7 Ladybug and Chat Noir were no longer allies but Adrien and Marinette would still date, since Adrien has to pretend he has no idea of anything and that he has nothing against Ladybug to protect his identity. Or, they would break up because Adrien cannot handle a relationship at the moment.

I want the civil war so bad, and what you laid out is brilliant. Its just that, unfortunately, the excuse for why he can't know makes any realistic reaction from him evidence that gaslighting him was the correct path. If they call back to guiltrip and he cataclysms himself? Proof to him not being able to handle the truth due to it being too painful. If he goes full chat blanc? Proof he's too emotional to know the truth. If he becomes a traitor and joins Lila? Its proof that he would have sided with Gabriel in the final fight the way chat blanc and Ephemeral predicted (ignoring that both of those were due to on screen child abuse, and chat blanc was trying to kill himself, not maribug).

Well, in my mind It wasnt siding Up with Lila but separating from Ladybug, but he still has enough common sense to know that Chrysallis is wrong. Anyway, I was wrong about my theory, which did down I knew because it is what I would have enjoyed. The episode "Némesis" was good. But what do you mean Adrien/Chat Noir remains as a side character, barely appearing, Marinette and now not even Alya wanting to tell him the truth. Marinette literally would rather break up with him than being honest(?

Nathalie wasnt even around. What about that weird secret society? Feliz moving to Paris? The grandparents? The whole thing with Zoe and her past bully? Chloe and her family? Do we have to wait until season 37? Maybe its just me, but if you are going to entail that something is happening, do something about in the same season. Sure, suspense is good, but now there are a lot of suspense arcs that are not even that important unless they are talking you to a great plot twist.

I just hate that Adrien has been kept in the dark for so long. Like is he even going to find out at this point. Is he going to be the real controller of his life.

Also, the luckycharm of the past episode was useless (the pizza box)...and Marinette'parent knowing kind of also was (for now).

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Or maybe I'm completely wrong because I want Chat Noir to know something and not be so lost.

Also, the secret that Lila reveals is probably that Hawkmonth was Gabriel Agreste, and Adrien goes to Natalie about this, and Natalie ends up discovering who Chat Noir is. This makes sense because Marinette's parents know now, so maybe Adien's parental figure should know as well.

And about the traitor theory: Chat Noir after discovering everything? I feel that that would be the only thing that would actually create a good plot twist. Like, would it be really that good if Kagami was a traitor? Or Alia? Nino? Felix? Someone more irrelevant. Nah, Chat Noir/Adrien is the only want that could make sense since he has the most reasons to go against Ladybug because of everything she has been hiding, both to Adren and Chat Noir separately. Apart from this, It would be so f**k up but also funny if in season 7 Ladybug and Chat Noir were no longer allies but Adrien and Marinette would still date, since Adrien has to pretend he has no idea of anything and that he has nothing against Ladybug to protect his identity. Or, they would break up because Adrien cannot handle a relationship at the moment.

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he likes to eat. Like A LOT. I have not seen anyone point it out, but his character is really interesting in food. In the first episode of season 3, it is stated that he is the only one of his family who enjoys his mothers soup, and the only one to have seconds. You would expect to the iops to have seconds as well, since they have been moving around all morning apparently, but this is not the case.

Later on, in episode 3, when Echo gives them food in her prison, she seems to know. She does not give them food because she has to feed them, but because she knows that it will put her on Flopins good side. We can also see in that same scene how the only reason he did not eat without questioning was because Eva stopped him, otherwise he would have eaten it without even considering it could have been poisoned, which is weird, having in mind how analytical he is the rest of the season. Once Echo eats the apple and shows the food is alright, he makes a happy expression and starts eating once his mother gives him the signal. And he is not a picky eater, in fact I am pretty sure he tasted every single thing on that table.

It would interesting to consider that, in the future, since he will most possibly have super hearing and also a great sight, the rest of his senses would be less evolved, not allowing him to enjoy food like in his infancy. This could either go two ways: one, he eats whatever to stay strong and it is mentioned once and shown twice how he does not care about food because he would eat whatever, or two, where he eats pretty much anything and still enjoys food despite not tasting much, to the point where he builts some sort of resistance to even venom, since his body has growm used to it. This could be of use on my next point:

It's funny that I now have this reputation of being a big 2012 Donnie fan because of my Jonatello content even though I'm actually a 2012 Leo fan- 😭 LMAO

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I personally don't have anything I truly dislike about 2012 Mikey other than the show and fandom's infantilization of him as a character (Which isn't exactly his fault-). That's my biggest headcanon for 12 Mikey with pretty much him and how others interact with him- They don't constantly treat him like he's 6 years old. 💀 Lmao

I really enjoy Mikey's character in 2012, and it would've been great to see him get shown the same respect as the rest of his brothers ! I love him sharing emotional intelligence / being a stability for those who might be going through a lot like Leo ! I love him showing a genuine interest in science (Like chemistry-) and Donnie sharing that with him / treating him like he's capable of learning this stuff because his is ! I love him and Raph shooting the shit and making crude jokes / innuendos together towards people, know Raph and himself don't truly mean anything by them, they're just funny and it's how they bond ! I love him supporting his big sister Karai in her efforts to rebrand the Foot Clan and offering insight on their next moves occasionally (Mainly in empathy department- Helping Karai unlearn a lot of toxic behaviors she picked up from her childhood, etc. -) !

I also love drawing 12 Mikey with annoyed / exasperated / unimpressed facial expressions ! They never let him be rightfully annoyed with his brothers / best friends a lot of time, and I hate that for him,, Let him scowl !! 🗣️

Also I agree! Its okay if they want to make Mikey the youngest, but they never explain how young he is compared to the others (which shouldnt be too far, only by months if anything) and they treat him at times like he is some naïve toddler. At least in 2018 they made it in a way that does not make you wonder what is going on with the character, 2018 mikey is two years younger than Raph, so its not super weird if he is a little protective over him.

About the stuff you love, yaaaas he is the one who hungs out with the rest of the characters i think, and i love that for him ((o(^∇^)o)), although it would have been nice to see his few moments of sadness or fury last longer. Im sure he didnt liked being babyed all the time, but it was never addressed, or the size of angry Mikey in his mind episode ( ;｀Д´)!