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Captain Marvel #50 - “Marvelous” (2023)

Tim’s morality doesn’t come ‘from a list on the fridge from Batman’ or 'not wanting to be gun Batman’.

Tim, at his core, decided that he could not be a bystander when things were going wrong, and chose to step up and help. When faced with the decision of “someone has to do this difficult thing” he said “I’m someone”, after trying to get someone with more training and expertise to take the role. And when he was older and there were others who could take the support role he had found for himself, he chose again to stay with his allies and follow the mission and protect Gotham, because the job was not complete.

“[Dick] taught me to never back away from any possibility that might lead to the truth.”

When Tim thought he’d killed a criminal in the course of arresting them? He beat himself up with guilt and trained harder and in even more investigative and fighting techniques to stop it happening again.

But the clone lab/Lazarus water/blowing up Ra’s bases/Captain Boomerang! Yes, those are things that Tim did at his lowest, when he was hurting from an enormous amount of loss. And he: chose to stop attempting the cloning and apologised to Conner for it on Kon’s return; poured out the Lazarus water; look was admittedly pretty dodgy here but it’s not like it’s the first time Bat characters have destroyed Lazarus Pits on purpose; and chose to save Boomerang. He did not go through with things when people close to him reached out and acknowledged his pain.

What, other people blew up Lazarus pits? Yeah for a while there Bruce was funding Bane to run around the world destroying them and handing over details of known ones…look it’s a whole involved thing due to fallout from Legacy and a conspiracy to convince Bane that he was Bruce’s half brother, don’t worry about it.

Bruce and Dick have both had to be restrained from killing, on occasion, when caught in rage and despair. There have been deaths that they didn’t intervene in, and guilt they ALSO carry over this. Babs’ moral code includes working with criminals, stealing money from corrupt officials and international conglomerates and hacking processing power from the Pentagon. Cass, after swearing to never kill again, broke Shiva’s neck and hung her over a Lazarus pit to fall in because that didn’t QUITE meet her definition of killing. It’s not about 'are your ethics pure at all times’. It’s about the choices they’ve made, even after a mistake.

Tim fears he’s become too like Bruce at his most rigid and analytical on occasion (16th birthday paranoia; developing protocols when he was older which he insisted he wouldn’t when he was younger; 'testing’ himself with Boomerang). His reaction has been that it was even MORE important to him to ensure that he’s acting in an ethical manner, and he’s consistently passed that test.

He’s not fated to be evil. There are afaik three (3) future/alternate universe storylines where Tim 'goes evil’. One is DCAU, where he was made Joker Jr because the Diniverse doesn’t HAVE a Jason, Tim there is a composite (plus you know, he was tortured to that point). The second is Earth-3, which is, I remind you, the 'good and evil are reversed’ universe. The third is Titans of Tomorrow. Future Evil Tim gets occasional storylines because it’s a compelling mirror to hold up to Tim’s ACTUAL morality.