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Bitch before enriched flour, neural tube defects like spina bifida were far more common. Even now, spina bifida clinicians and researchers are begging to have salt and maize fortified to reach groups that don’t use as much flour. Before iodized salt, the United States had a fucking GOITER BELT. Eleven years after the introduction of fluoridated water, a city in Michigan found the rate of dental caries among school children dropped a staggering 60%— in an era where tooth decay regularly fucking killed people

I’m literally not even going to start on vaccines, which are among the most successful and robustly studied public health measures in world history

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Iroh was disgraced from leaving the war and failing the siege, she technically didn’t say anything “wrong” (though morally and ethically she was wrong).

Azulon WAS loosing his power from Ozai trying to scratch his way into the throne. Irohs failing was also HIS loss too! He lost Ba sing se!

All of these stuff were happening in the way azula was talking about. This shit obv did not come purely out of her own interpretation. It suggests that azula was victim of the environment she grew up in.

Azula was the one who INTENTIONALLY saves Zukos life by snooping around. When azula says that Ozai will kill him, she doesn’t actually wish his death. She hopes he will find refuge instead, to a “nice earth kingdom family”(lol).It demonstrates the fact that Azula is still very much naive and innocent to the concept of death and especially that of a closed one. Again, she doesn’t say he’ll die, she hopes that he will escape, hence why she tells him and Ursa afterwards. It’s a more of a “aha” moment, that he will be mildly upset and annoyed while she gets all the parental affection (lol). Not that he will literally die by his father’s hand.

It's all of the OTHER things she chooses to do as a fully congniscent adult that makes her a bad person.

She had as many, if not MORE opportunities than Zuko to get better.

I don't know what show you are watching or what Azula hate you are reading, but no.

Azula still gets hate for things she did as a nine-year-old in the Zuko Alone flashbacks. Example: Fans still say she abused turtleducks, wished death upon Zuko and other members of her family, among other things. And they'll use it as evidence that she is a bad person, as you said.

Saying she was a "fully cogniscent adult." No! Absolutely not! She was FOURTEEN when she appeared in season 2. FOURTEEN!!! A fourteen-year-old who is not only groomed by her father her entire life, but also groomed by the imperialistic propaganda that has kept the war going for a 100 years. She is literally the furthest thing from a fully cogniscent adult! She was still a child!

You know who was a fully cogniscent adult, IROH. Iroh was in his late 40s, pushing 50, when he led the 600-day siege in Ba Sing Se. Keep in mind, he spared the last dragon decades before the siege. He never challenged Ozai for the throne. Jeong-Jeong and Piandao were fully cognisant adults who fought in the Fire Nation Military. These grown-ass men who committed worse atrocities than Azula DEFECTED.

Saying she got around the same amount or more chances than Zuko is laughable. Ok, Zuko (pre-redemption) was the one who kept rejecting opportunities to change.

Example:

Blue Spirit Ep when Aang asked, "if we knew each other back then, do you thing we could have been friends?" He shoots fire

Saving his life in The Siege of the North ep

The Chase Ep when Katara says she can help Iroh. He shoots fire

The Crossroads of Destiny by both Katara and Iroh

Zuko made a choice. He took some lumps. But he made it.

Like you said, he backslid more than once. That gives Azula even FEWER excuses not to have had SOME kind of epiphany. A MOMENT'S hesitation. SOMEWHERE.

But she doesn't.

Not when she's trying to kill her own brother and uncle with lightning.

Not when her best friends decide this has gone on far enough (the PERFECT time for her to have SOME kind of realization)

Not after Aang and Zuko spare her life and bring her on a journey to find the mother that left such a yawning pit in her soul.

Zuko and Azula are similar characters. They come from the same place. Zuko made it out. Azula didn't. What's the difference?

The plain fact that one of Azula's core traits is that she ENJOYS hurting people. She feels POWERFUL when she causes pain and suffering. And nothing will convince her it's worth it to give up that feeling. Not her mother's love, or her father's abuse, or her "best friends" telling her what a stuck up little bully she is.

I get that you like her. So do I. She's a cool and tragic...villain.

Zuko was banished for 3 years, and Azula was not.

Azula was their father's favourite, and Zuko was not.

Zuko had 3 years with Iroh, Azula had 3 years alone with Ozai.

That in season 2 and the second half of season 3, Zuko and Iroh were wanted dead or alive by the Fire Lord, and Azula was ordered to hunt them down.

If Azula truly enjoyed hurting people to the (honestly comically cartoonish) degree you say she does, then she wouldn't:

push herself to perfection out of fear of losing her father's approval

be hurt over her mother thinking she was a monster - the Beach

Tell the Warden that he's interrogating the wrong man - Boiling Rock

break down after hallucinating her mother

Tell the hallucination of her mother: "What choice do I have? Trust is for fools. Fear is the only reliable way." Which really goes against your view. She's saying she doesn't have a choice to be what she is.

Saying Zuko backslid (rejecting opportunities), so Azula should have had an epiphany, makes no fucking sense. It practically screams double standards. Zuko rejecting opportunities really indicates just how challenging it is for him to confront the propaganda he has been taught since birth. So reasonably, it would be similarly challenging for Azula to unlearn her father's influence and the imperialistic propaganda.

She very much did question Mai - she says," I never expected this from you. The thing I don't understand is "Why?". Why would you do it? You know the consequences."

I specifically said: Where in the show did Azula get a single chance? Notice that I didn't mention the comics.

But since you did, in the Search, Azula made a deal to Zuko to join the journey to find Ursa, none of the Gaang was happy with taking her along. And this is the same comic where Zuko dangled her over a cliff, right after he got Aang to leave, saying he could handle her. The same comic where her mind has deteriorated due to being in an abusive asylum for more than a year. The same comic where no one asked if she was ok when she jumped off Appa mid-air, hallucinated and rambled on about Ursa conspiring against her. If they were trying to help her, they did a terrible job at it. It drove her further away from them.

You say you like Azula. Yet you are the one who said she was a fully cogniscent adult instead of a teenager. When I point out that she's 14 and that there were fully cogniscent adults like Iroh, Jeong-Jeong and Piandao, who defected after committing atrocities worse than Azula, you don't seem to really acknowledge it. In fact, you apply these adult- level moralisations that she should have hesistated, she should have realised, she should have has an epiphany. That's clarity expected from an adult not a child solider.

Why SHOULD any of the Gaang have tried to help her? From their perspective the ONLY things they'd ever seen her do was try to kill them all without a single second's remorse!

It's so glaringly obvious that you haven't watched the show in a while, or you watched it while your eyes were closed.

You literally thought Azula was a fully cogniscent adult. Ignored that I even pointed it out. Ignored that you still seem to expect her to have adult-level critical thinking to have an epiphany on her own.

If Katara can make moral decisions. So can Azula.

If Zuko can make moral decisions. So can Azula.

Iroh was disgraced from leaving the war and failing the siege, she technically didn’t say anything “wrong” (though morally and ethically she was wrong).

Azulon WAS loosing his power from Ozai trying to scratch his way into the throne. Irohs failing was also HIS loss too! He lost Ba sing se!

All of these stuff were happening in the way azula was talking about. This shit obv did not come purely out of her own interpretation. It suggests that azula was victim of the environment she grew up in.

Azula was the one who INTENTIONALLY saves Zukos life by snooping around. When azula says that Ozai will kill him, she doesn’t actually wish his death. She hopes he will find refuge instead, to a “nice earth kingdom family”(lol).It demonstrates the fact that Azula is still very much naive and innocent to the concept of death and especially that of a closed one. Again, she doesn’t say he’ll die, she hopes that he will escape, hence why she tells him and Ursa afterwards. It’s a more of a “aha” moment, that he will be mildly upset and annoyed while she gets all the parental affection (lol). Not that he will literally die by his father’s hand.

It's all of the OTHER things she chooses to do as a fully congniscent adult that makes her a bad person.

She had as many, if not MORE opportunities than Zuko to get better.

I don't know what show you are watching or what Azula hate you are reading, but no.

Azula still gets hate for things she did as a nine-year-old in the Zuko Alone flashbacks. Example: Fans still say she abused turtleducks, wished death upon Zuko and other members of her family, among other things. And they'll use it as evidence that she is a bad person, as you said.

Saying she was a "fully cogniscent adult." No! Absolutely not! She was FOURTEEN when she appeared in season 2. FOURTEEN!!! A fourteen-year-old who is not only groomed by her father her entire life, but also groomed by the imperialistic propaganda that has kept the war going for a 100 years. She is literally the furthest thing from a fully cogniscent adult! She was still a child!

You know who was a fully cogniscent adult, IROH. Iroh was in his late 40s, pushing 50, when he led the 600-day siege in Ba Sing Se. Keep in mind, he spared the last dragon decades before the siege. He never challenged Ozai for the throne. Jeong-Jeong and Piandao were fully cognisant adults who fought in the Fire Nation Military. These grown-ass men who committed worse atrocities than Azula DEFECTED.

Saying she got around the same amount or more chances than Zuko is laughable. Ok, Zuko (pre-redemption) was the one who kept rejecting opportunities to change.

Example:

Blue Spirit Ep when Aang asked, "if we knew each other back then, do you thing we could have been friends?" He shoots fire

Saving his life in The Siege of the North ep

The Chase Ep when Katara says she can help Iroh. He shoots fire

The Crossroads of Destiny by both Katara and Iroh

Zuko made a choice. He took some lumps. But he made it.

Like you said, he backslid more than once. That gives Azula even FEWER excuses not to have had SOME kind of epiphany. A MOMENT'S hesitation. SOMEWHERE.

But she doesn't.

Not when she's trying to kill her own brother and uncle with lightning.

Not when her best friends decide this has gone on far enough (the PERFECT time for her to have SOME kind of realization)

Not after Aang and Zuko spare her life and bring her on a journey to find the mother that left such a yawning pit in her soul.

Zuko and Azula are similar characters. They come from the same place. Zuko made it out. Azula didn't. What's the difference?

The plain fact that one of Azula's core traits is that she ENJOYS hurting people. She feels POWERFUL when she causes pain and suffering. And nothing will convince her it's worth it to give up that feeling. Not her mother's love, or her father's abuse, or her "best friends" telling her what a stuck up little bully she is.

I get that you like her. So do I. She's a cool and tragic...villain.

Zuko was banished for 3 years, and Azula was not.

Azula was their father's favourite, and Zuko was not.

Zuko had 3 years with Iroh, Azula had 3 years alone with Ozai.

That in season 2 and the second half of season 3, Zuko and Iroh were wanted dead or alive by the Fire Lord, and Azula was ordered to hunt them down.

If Azula truly enjoyed hurting people to the (honestly comically cartoonish) degree you say she does, then she wouldn't:

push herself to perfection out of fear of losing her father's approval

be hurt over her mother thinking she was a monster - the Beach

Tell the Warden that he's interrogating the wrong man - Boiling Rock

break down after hallucinating her mother

Tell the hallucination of her mother: "What choice do I have? Trust is for fools. Fear is the only reliable way." Which really goes against your view. She's saying she doesn't have a choice to be what she is.

Saying Zuko backslid (rejecting opportunities), so Azula should have had an epiphany, makes no fucking sense. It practically screams double standards. Zuko rejecting opportunities really indicates just how challenging it is for him to confront the propaganda he has been taught since birth. So reasonably, it would be similarly challenging for Azula to unlearn her father's influence and the imperialistic propaganda.

She very much did question Mai - she says," I never expected this from you. The thing I don't understand is "Why?". Why would you do it? You know the consequences."

I specifically said: Where in the show did Azula get a single chance? Notice that I didn't mention the comics.

But since you did, in the Search, Azula made a deal to Zuko to join the journey to find Ursa, none of the Gaang was happy with taking her along. And this is the same comic where Zuko dangled her over a cliff, right after he got Aang to leave, saying he could handle her. The same comic where her mind has deteriorated due to being in an abusive asylum for more than a year. The same comic where no one asked if she was ok when she jumped off Appa mid-air, hallucinated and rambled on about Ursa conspiring against her. If they were trying to help her, they did a terrible job at it. It drove her further away from them.

You say you like Azula. Yet you are the one who said she was a fully cogniscent adult instead of a teenager. When I point out that she's 14 and that there were fully cogniscent adults like Iroh, Jeong-Jeong and Piandao, who defected after committing atrocities worse than Azula, you don't seem to really acknowledge it. In fact, you apply these adult- level moralisations that she should have hesistated, she should have realised, she should have has an epiphany. That's clarity expected from an adult not a child solider.

Why SHOULD any of the Gaang have tried to help her? From their perspective the ONLY things they'd ever seen her do was try to kill them all without a single second's remorse!

It's so glaringly obvious that you haven't watched the show in a while, or you watched it while your eyes were closed.

You literally thought Azula was a fully cogniscent adult. Ignored that I even pointed it out. Ignored that you still seem to expect her to have adult-level critical thinking to have an epiphany on her own.

If Katara can make moral decisions. So can Azula.

If Zuko can make moral decisions. So can Azula.

There's a whole hobby where people make puzzles for the cockatoos, so they're learning from the best