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I beg your FINEST pardon but these comments on this post are actually so wild. To assume a certain party is guilty of something as severe as doxxing without any proof when said party has done nothing but bring to light all the bullying and call out posts made is such a reach. I hope this doxxing situation is being handled appropriately so that this serious matter can be dealt with. I also hope whoever sent the anon knows that theyâre causing more harm for both parties and that doxxing is never the answer!
Doxxing is a serious crime and to insinuate anyone doing so without proof is also very dangerous. This is something to be handled by authorities, no ifs, ands, or buts.
I hope the person in question is caught because that is NOT okay.
And to put my personal disclaimer: No I have not nor will I ever condone doxxing. That's a fucked up thing to do to someone!! To whomever that did this, thanks asshole, you made my and other's lives that much harder in trying to peacefully defend against false callouts.
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hi! can I ask - have the people who have made these callout posts given proof of what makes them the absolute authority on AI? id also be quite interested in seeing proof of emails, letters sent, protests attended and petitions created or signed etc within at least the last year against the companies who create/fund it.
Or does their big, brave and oh so noble "fight" against AI begin and end with fanfic writers?
and dont they pay premium for the ai detectors they stuff their friends fics through? hmmm i wonder whose pockets theyre lining đ¤ (*whispers* its the corporations that create ai models. im sure their money is being put to really good use though!)
also. the whole "this ai detector is a million times more accurate than all the rest so pay for ours instead!!" know what that is? â¨marketing⨠know what marketing is? â¨mostly liesâ¨
ai detectors are a scam and people are falling for it.
Funny how that works.
(I agree with literally everything you just said.)
I donât think accusing writers of using AI and then demanding proof that their work *isnât* AI is actually keeping AI out of creative spaces. Instead, itâs scaring writers into not posting, making them remove their work, and discouraging new writers from joining the community altogether.
I also donât think accusing writers of using AI is actually raising awareness about the negative effects of AI on creative spaces. Instead, itâs alienating writersâturning the very people who *contribute* to these spaces into scapegoats, as if theyâre part of the problem rather than the ones being harmed by it.
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i think the argument about posting AI fanfiction is so funny. things that are AI written are definitely soulless and easy to clock, really obviously bad and often using stupid metaphors that no one would actually say. i think no self-respecting author should ever use it.
but also as someone who sometimes dares to delve into the ao3 depths when i have a sliver of free time, i can say for certain that a lot of you write WORSE than AI, if weâre being honest.
so the trend of people INSISTING that all fanfiction is better than the AI written stuff is just honestly not true. them saying that to people who have extremely subpar writing is 1) not going to help them improve, and 2) straight up lying. itâs like telling someone ugly that âyou are so STUNNING omg!â like, lmao my ass off.
This will likely be the last thing I say regarding what has been going on over the past week that is related to myself and my fanfiction. I want to keep this post objective, rather than accusatory, and I will let people decide what they believe based off the information provided. I donât want to insult anyone, nor say anything negative, but bring more clarity.
I would like to clear this up once and for all, not just with my Fanfiction but also the allegations of bullying and transphobia that have been brought against me during this confrontation. I wanted to let this go, but these are not words that should be taken lightlyâwith or without the situation that has caused these things to be said.
But I will ask, please keep negativity out of the comments!
So first, let me bring more context to the screenshots provided against me as well as how the rewrite function was also described by them as well. Also make sure to check dates and times.
The original conversation:
The screenshots provided from this conversation that has been cropped and posted else where:
Screenshots of me denying generating my fic with AI, as well of the bullying allegations in a certain Solavellan Discord that keeps being brought up in comments as a space I got banned from for bullying and admitting to AI. I asked for other proof about these things and was denied. So I will provide proof that this did in fact, not occur.
(The cropped images are all the times I denied, and I also underlined in red where the bullying allegations were mentioned about the Solavellan discord.)
Screenshots of the Discord channel in question. I will not be providing the information publicly on what discord this is. I respect the creator involved despite the ban, and I donât want this to be brought up anymore with them. But as you can see based off of replies to me that AI was never mentioned nor did we argue. We mainly talked about Solas, my fic, and I believe Felassan. Also where it says âMessage could not be loadedâ instead of âMessage was deleted,â I had sent a fanart of Solas, and was told to send it to the proper channelâwhich I did.
I have marked my messages with the red arrow provided.
(I want to thank my friend for these screenshots. Also I implore you, if youâre curious, to join this Discord as well if you believe there is more to this conversation! I will not provide it but it is easy enough to find this Discord just by asking some of the kind people who are apart of the Solavellan community.)
Messages corroborating this being the same day and the same discord that is being referred to:
Here is the conversation in regards to the transphobia allegations.
The first one is between me and the person in question, and the second is the conversation they are referring to between me and another person who they are friends with that also made the same mistake I did. Who also has known them longer. Also I want to note that one of the places âI was bannedâ from that keeps being mentioned, was because of this person and their friendâwho was a modâdecided to ban me over these false allegations.
(Also here is a link to the Reddit comment, made by myself, that we are referring to. I also want people to keep in mind that I am also a part of the LGBTQ+ community as well. Which has been discussed previously with the people in question.)
This conversation:
NOTE: I also want to call back the beginning to the screenshot above of them saying what they believed the Grammarly Rewrite function was. Also I have said things about how people act in the communityâboth Solavellans and SolRook shippersâand how I wished everyone would get along. I have not denied that at all which is why I agreed to the changes that were asked for within the Solasmancers subreddit. That was a long drawn out conversation, and probably makes up around 70% of the time I was in that Discord.
Tagging Rules of AO3âs Content Policy.
The conversation where I was supposedly transphobic:
I also have more information about other things Iâve mentioned about this situation in my Reddit comment. Also, if anyone asks, I can also provide screen recordings of the entire conversation between myself, and the person in questionâas well as any other conversations that people are curious about. I want to be transparent, honest, and to the point about these things.
(I would provide the other information here but I am already pushing the max number of pictures I can put in a post here on Tumblr. Lol)
Another thing I want people to keep in mind, this is a decent sized community involved in this situation outside of the person I am referring toâto check dates on any information that is provided about myself from this group. It is easy to doctor these types of allegations if multiple people are involved. I am not saying that they would do this, but I want people to keep this in mind.
I will eventually return to writing, but I am currently going through some personal mattersâyou can easily find what I am referring to on my pageâoutside of this situation. I donât want to put that here because that is not what this post is about and I do not wish to garner any sympathy. I will be addressing other things in regards to my writing process once I have my personal life in orderâbut writing is currently the last thing on my mind.
This is also a situation that was talked about previously with this group, and the one other time I had a long, drawn out conversation within their Discord.
Again, this is hopefully the last time I will speak about this, but this post is not about AI. It is not about accusing anyone.
It is about people seeing the full picture of a situation so they can form their own opinions.
I was âfriendsâ with these people, so the accusations of AI were hurtful especially when I had conversations about this with them previously and nothing was said. But the other allegations against meâthe bullying and transphobiaâis something entirely different.
I was never banned from their Discord and the DreadRook subreddit over these allegations until this situation occurred. So if this really was happening, the bullying and transphobia, why bring it up now?
These things are slander, and can easily ruin peopleâs lives. This isnât about writing, or being a part of an online community, this is something entirely different. I didnât want to bring this onto my page, and I never wanted to speak about these people directly ever againâbut I cannot ignore this.
If I have hurt anyone I apologize, but I wanted to bring this to peopleâs attention. But lets focus on what we all love in this community!
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Over the past few weeks there have been two posts in particular that have come out against two authors in the community that have resulted in near witch hunts for one, and essentially driving the other off the internet from all the bullying and hate received. These posts were related to the potential use of AI in fanfiction, as well as using supposed âAI Detectorsâ to support their claims. With the help of friends, we have been able to look into the AI claims that were made against both The Silence and The Song and Ir Abelas, Daâean.
We were curious about how and why these posts were being flagged with high levels of âAI Probabilityâ when the authors have been adamant (either in chats or in public) that they have never used generative AI for their work. So we did the most logical thing, put on our detective caps, and rolled up our sleeves. We would like to note that we do not wish to have philosophical discussions, we wish to have transparency and honesty.
Spoilers: We found inaccuracies almost IMMEDIATELY.
Firstly, we looked into the weakness of AI detectors, and read through online posts where people voiced their frustrations with detectors. One thing that we noticed was that the common denominator was that well written articles were being flagged as âLikely AIâ, particularly with Originality, and that the solution was to either âdumb them downâ or to remove punctuation such as commas, which immediately improved the score, tipping the scale to âLikely Originalâ.
For the second step, we ran some of our own works through Originality AI checkerâworks that were made prior to the creation of AI and generative AI. However, after punctuation was removed, this magically changed from 50% likelihood of AI to 100% original work. Again, these works were from before the dawn of generative AI, and therefore could not have been created by AI. For fun, we even ran the first chapter of Harry Potter through itâa novel that is objectively without AI, which still did not come out with results stating 100% original work. We then removed almost all of the punctuation from it, and it actually improved the originality score by 3% (from 95% to 98%).
Personal fic, before and after:
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Next step, we ran our own scans through Originality and Quillbot.This includes full chapters of Ir Abelas, Daâean, both with and without punctuation in Originality, and excerpts in Quillbot. Interestingly, the excerpts in Quillbot pinged as â0% likely AIâ, and that is without any removal of punctuation. Across the board, the removal of punctuation from the chapters caused an immediate and dramatic increase in the score, from â100% likely AIâ to â96% likely Originalâ. We have found that the more grammatically correct a work was, the more likely it was to be flagged as âAIâ, much like how the freelance writers were complaining about.
Chapter 1 of Ir Abelas, before and after:
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Chapter 1 through Quillbot:
Chapter 45 of Ir Abelas, before and after:
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Chapter 45 without commas or double hyphens:
Originality.ai - AI Content Detection
Chapter 45 through Quillbot:
Even the Ai detection websites caution against this:
To Durgeapologist, Fangbanger3000, and friends: If you do actually read this, I hope you realize that your posts have done more harm than good to the community. You are correct that AI is a potential threat to creative spaces, but you have gone about addressing it in the worst possible way. By creating multiple posts across platforms with the intent of creating a negative perspective toward certain authors and their fictions rather than the use of AI as a wholeânot to mention the counter-accusations with personal attacks rather than focusing on the issue at handâyou are creating an environment that fosters negativity, bullying, and divisionânone of which are directions to take a sustainable and healthy community. AI Detection is the Wild West right now. There is no way to determine if something written is AI through the use of algorithms, and it requires the use of human intervention and careful comparison to previous works to be within a certain level of certainty that it is AI. Our hope is that in the future, you will take time, step back, and consider all possible sides before causing a stir in the community like this.
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