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Like even Tanjiro Kamado our sweetest boy has shown unbridled rage. So I was wondering what are ur thoughts on this does Kim Soleum has someone he genuinely hates or is it just me and my sleep deprived thoughts making shit up.

If it is true then I wonder where is line drawn by Kim Soleum and I wonder what it would take for him to genuinely get mad and crash out.

Hopefully someone would answer my question. Also I would love to know if Soleum ever crashed out in between the novel.

This is actually a really interesting topic because Soleum rlly seems to be lacking in the anger department. Its to the point where it doesn't seem to be the case where Soleums just not an angry person. Instead its been theorized that this is (for some reason) a filter of The Good Friend.

As far as I'm aware and remember Soleum has gotten mad 7 times and only two are definitely of them seem to be of his own accord while two others are miscellaneous.

Now when I say mad I mean yelling, anger, rage. Getting upset, distressed, or annoyed does not count. I'm also not counting small occasions due to contamination (such as his anger when seeing the intruders as a Sekwang high schooler). I'm only counting big moments which resulted in something happening.

He gets mad 2 times due to contamination. Once in Part 1 as The Golden Flower Mascot where he gets upset at Magic Bunny's for attempting to ruin his ceremony and he nearly kills the contaminated guests. And another time in Part 2 when he gets a temp tatoo that makes him hurt Kwak Jekang. Both times once its over he snaps out of it pretty quickly and is immiedatly aware and guilty.

Now he gets mad 3 times as 130666 and one may not be of his own accord. He gets mad as he crushes the bathroom spirit, infuriated and enraged at his crushed mind and body and taking it out on the spirit. The other time is when Cheong grabs him by the head like an animal and he feels a genuine rage. This one is rlly unusual cause Braun even commented on it. Its also the only time Soleum has explicitly told us he's angry.

The Third time is unusual. While 130666 usually has a silent giant rage that looms, this one doesn't seen to match it all. It was when j3 tried to devour Soleum and he had the thought process of being aggravated and offended such a thing would try to devour him. In a superior tone. He immiedatly gets confused as that wasn't him. My guess it was Yongyong's thoughts because the body was closer to hers than his at this point?

Anyways now we get to rlly interesting bits. The times that aren't influenced by Contamination or your mind and body being a crushed mess. Instead this is purely Soleum. Influenced by nothing but his own mind.

And this rlly makes the audience see how strange his anger is. How it happens at such unusual times. Because he never ever gets angry. Except for these two times with quite a large similarity.

They both relate to him going home. Or how he got here from home. They relate to his position here.

The first time was when he met a researcher from Cheerful and it was revealed how he was summoned here. It was revealed he was the reason for Sekwang city. And he got mad. A genuine cruel anger. He made the researcher figure out his identity as the one from a world without ghost stories and told him that he would never help him. He left the researcher to die knowing that cruel bit of information. Brushed it out of his mind and moved on.

This moment of anger rlly rlly stands out because it doesnt feel like Soleum at all. Soleum is kind and always feels an instinctual feeling to help people. And it was just shown that Cheerful genuinely had good intentions and no plan to harm anyone. They just wanted to create a safe world.

And Soleum crushes those dreams. Didnt even give them a second thought and basically spat in this man's face. And thats so weird! Because that doesnt feel like Soleum at all!

The next time Soleum gets mad is at Agent Choi. When Choi tells him that he can't go home. Soleum tries to calm himself down, to analyze the situation and figure a way out. Like he always does. But he fails. His anger blows up and all planning goes out the window. He yells, he nearly grabs Choi, he's angry, and he runs.

This doesn't make sense at all until the theory that I stated above comes up. That Soleum IS angry. This is just the filter stopping him from being.

Because the OG Soleum. IS angry. IS selfish. He angrily declares and says that this entire city can solve its own problems. Most of the entire interaction with him was filled with his angry and desperate thoughts. So unlike the Soleum we know who's nearly never angry at all. And here is OG Soleum angry at a moments notice.

Yeah thats the main bit of the theory that can be disproven. That Og Kim Soleum has been through an EXTREMLY traumatic event and would probably not be feeling so kind or selfless after it.

The part that still does feel weird is how his anger only seems to pop up when relating to him going home/how he got here. Which is definitely smth.

But you are right in that his behavior with Cheerful is rlly strange. Because you'd think he'd be friendly towards Cheerful? Since they summoned him? And yet he's never showed ANY feelings of goodwill towards them.

Which brings up the question, what happened to the person who summoned him? Why did they never come back? If they went through all that effort to save him why abandon him? Its not like they would have lost him. He stayed as a Daydream employee for a WHILE.

Which brings up ANOTHER question of, was it really Cheerful who summoned him? Because the behavior of the employee who called him a liar was definitely NOT very Cheerful of him. Cheerful has proven to be a genuinely kind (and naive) organization. Meanwhile the employee seemed to harbor ill will towards him.

So we know that the researcher was definitely Cheerful at some point but what if... they were working with another group? Cheerful did basically go exitinct so...

One explanation for the gf restrictions not affecting Soleum that much could be that the summoning conditions are extremely powerful, overwriting and replacing the “original” restrictions. The “provision of a survival goal”, going home, is Soleums major drive during the entirety of part 1 & 2. Despite knowing his memories has been erased and altered (“erasure of previous emotional attachments” + “removal of sense of incongruity”) he almost never thinks about it, as if unable to. It would explain the reason for his intense anger concerning going home, since it’s anger towards something interfering with his summoning conditions.

(…and if that is the case, it implies og Soleum is even less prone to anger that gf Soleum. Huh. Not sure what to think of that. Og Soleum, please get better with counseling soon so we can get to know you better.)

As Soleum has some kind of reality-altering-Ireum-powers (being able to change his own “condition” by how he views himself with 130666 and the candle, the smoke-editing), there’s also a possibility that the good friend restrictions only works on Soleum if he thinks of them as affecting him (the fight with dir Cheong).

Like even Tanjiro Kamado our sweetest boy has shown unbridled rage. So I was wondering what are ur thoughts on this does Kim Soleum has someone he genuinely hates or is it just me and my sleep deprived thoughts making shit up.

If it is true then I wonder where is line drawn by Kim Soleum and I wonder what it would take for him to genuinely get mad and crash out.

Hopefully someone would answer my question. Also I would love to know if Soleum ever crashed out in between the novel.

This is actually a really interesting topic because Soleum rlly seems to be lacking in the anger department. Its to the point where it doesn't seem to be the case where Soleums just not an angry person. Instead its been theorized that this is (for some reason) a filter of The Good Friend.

As far as I'm aware and remember Soleum has gotten mad 7 times and only two are definitely of them seem to be of his own accord while two others are miscellaneous.

Now when I say mad I mean yelling, anger, rage. Getting upset, distressed, or annoyed does not count. I'm also not counting small occasions due to contamination (such as his anger when seeing the intruders as a Sekwang high schooler). I'm only counting big moments which resulted in something happening.

He gets mad 2 times due to contamination. Once in Part 1 as The Golden Flower Mascot where he gets upset at Magic Bunny's for attempting to ruin his ceremony and he nearly kills the contaminated guests. And another time in Part 2 when he gets a temp tatoo that makes him hurt Kwak Jekang. Both times once its over he snaps out of it pretty quickly and is immiedatly aware and guilty.

Now he gets mad 3 times as 130666 and one may not be of his own accord. He gets mad as he crushes the bathroom spirit, infuriated and enraged at his crushed mind and body and taking it out on the spirit. The other time is when Cheong grabs him by the head like an animal and he feels a genuine rage. This one is rlly unusual cause Braun even commented on it. Its also the only time Soleum has explicitly told us he's angry.

The Third time is unusual. While 130666 usually has a silent giant rage that looms, this one doesn't seen to match it all. It was when j3 tried to devour Soleum and he had the thought process of being aggravated and offended such a thing would try to devour him. In a superior tone. He immiedatly gets confused as that wasn't him. My guess it was Yongyong's thoughts because the body was closer to hers than his at this point?

Anyways now we get to rlly interesting bits. The times that aren't influenced by Contamination or your mind and body being a crushed mess. Instead this is purely Soleum. Influenced by nothing but his own mind.

And this rlly makes the audience see how strange his anger is. How it happens at such unusual times. Because he never ever gets angry. Except for these two times with quite a large similarity.

They both relate to him going home. Or how he got here from home. They relate to his position here.

The first time was when he met a researcher from Cheerful and it was revealed how he was summoned here. It was revealed he was the reason for Sekwang city. And he got mad. A genuine cruel anger. He made the researcher figure out his identity as the one from a world without ghost stories and told him that he would never help him. He left the researcher to die knowing that cruel bit of information. Brushed it out of his mind and moved on.

This moment of anger rlly rlly stands out because it doesnt feel like Soleum at all. Soleum is kind and always feels an instinctual feeling to help people. And it was just shown that Cheerful genuinely had good intentions and no plan to harm anyone. They just wanted to create a safe world.

And Soleum crushes those dreams. Didnt even give them a second thought and basically spat in this man's face. And thats so weird! Because that doesnt feel like Soleum at all!

The next time Soleum gets mad is at Agent Choi. When Choi tells him that he can't go home. Soleum tries to calm himself down, to analyze the situation and figure a way out. Like he always does. But he fails. His anger blows up and all planning goes out the window. He yells, he nearly grabs Choi, he's angry, and he runs.

This doesn't make sense at all until the theory that I stated above comes up. That Soleum IS angry. This is just the filter stopping him from being.

Because the OG Soleum. IS angry. IS selfish. He angrily declares and says that this entire city can solve its own problems. Most of the entire interaction with him was filled with his angry and desperate thoughts. So unlike the Soleum we know who's nearly never angry at all. And here is OG Soleum angry at a moments notice.

Yeah thats the main bit of the theory that can be disproven. That Og Kim Soleum has been through an EXTREMLY traumatic event and would probably not be feeling so kind or selfless after it.

The part that still does feel weird is how his anger only seems to pop up when relating to him going home/how he got here. Which is definitely smth.

But you are right in that his behavior with Cheerful is rlly strange. Because you'd think he'd be friendly towards Cheerful? Since they summoned him? And yet he's never showed ANY feelings of goodwill towards them.

Which brings up the question, what happened to the person who summoned him? Why did they never come back? If they went through all that effort to save him why abandon him? Its not like they would have lost him. He stayed as a Daydream employee for a WHILE.

Which brings up ANOTHER question of, was it really Cheerful who summoned him? Because the behavior of the employee who called him a liar was definitely NOT very Cheerful of him. Cheerful has proven to be a genuinely kind (and naive) organization. Meanwhile the employee seemed to harbor ill will towards him.

So we know that the researcher was definitely Cheerful at some point but what if... they were working with another group? Cheerful did basically go exitinct so...

One explanation for the gf restrictions not affecting Soleum that much could be that the summoning conditions are extremely powerful, overwriting and replacing the “original” restrictions. The “provision of a survival goal”, going home, is Soleums major drive during the entirety of part 1 & 2. Despite knowing his memories has been erased and altered (“erasure of previous emotional attachments” + “removal of sense of incongruity”) he almost never thinks about it, as if unable to. It would explain the reason for his intense anger concerning going home, since it’s anger towards something interfering with his summoning conditions.

(…and if that is the case, it implies og Soleum is even less prone to anger that gf Soleum. Huh. Not sure what to think of that. Og Soleum, please get better with counseling soon so we can get to know you better.)

As Soleum has some kind of reality-altering-Ireum-powers (being able to change his own “condition” by how he views himself with 130666 and the candle, the smoke-editing), there’s also a possibility that the good friend restrictions only works on Soleum if he thinks of them as affecting him (the fight with dir Cheong).

Plus the researcher didn't actually obstruct his path to go home at all. Soleum specifically went out of his way to make this man suffer despite all his actions being in the past. And all this tells me its something else...

Plus (though I have very little evidence) it does seem that OG Soleum was angrier then him. I have only two pieces of evidence and they're very small but still! The first is Soleum very very very early on in the series making a comment that he was surprised he didnt get angry (ik im reaching here) and two, a joke at the very start of the series. Where Soleums friends bullied Soleum for being a scaredy cat and not going on a movie date and he responds with "Lol. Wanna die?" Which seems like a pretty angry reaction.

But I do think you're totally onto something with the researcher that summoned Soleum being the one we met in Sekwang. Thats a rlly good observation.

Because theres a whole bunch of weird stuff around that researcher that still hasnt been addressed! Like the fact that a certain sect of the Church (i don't remember exactly correct me if im wrong) tried to duplicate him. Which resulted in Jang Heon. And why would they do that? What were they trying to accomplish?

Choi went against the condition itself by stating Soleum can’t go home, and Soleum was more angry about Choi not believing he could go home than, like you’re saying, any of the things actually preventing him from going home. There was a lot going on during their fight (feeling betrayed by someone he confided in, Sekwang seal breaking), but as you said it’s weird how the only parts in the story where his anger pops up (not counting contamination/yongyongs influence) relate to going home/being summoned.

Concerning the researcher, I meant the conditions can explain why he could get mad at the one who summoned him despite the good friend not typically working that way. (And yes, it’s weird that the church duplicated him. I’m guessing because he’s one of the researchers who figured out how to summon Ireum? 🤔)

Like even Tanjiro Kamado our sweetest boy has shown unbridled rage. So I was wondering what are ur thoughts on this does Kim Soleum has someone he genuinely hates or is it just me and my sleep deprived thoughts making shit up.

If it is true then I wonder where is line drawn by Kim Soleum and I wonder what it would take for him to genuinely get mad and crash out.

Hopefully someone would answer my question. Also I would love to know if Soleum ever crashed out in between the novel.

Like even Tanjiro Kamado our sweetest boy has shown unbridled rage. So I was wondering what are ur thoughts on this does Kim Soleum has someone he genuinely hates or is it just me and my sleep deprived thoughts making shit up.

If it is true then I wonder where is line drawn by Kim Soleum and I wonder what it would take for him to genuinely get mad and crash out.

Hopefully someone would answer my question. Also I would love to know if Soleum ever crashed out in between the novel.

This is actually a really interesting topic because Soleum rlly seems to be lacking in the anger department. Its to the point where it doesn't seem to be the case where Soleums just not an angry person. Instead its been theorized that this is (for some reason) a filter of The Good Friend.

As far as I'm aware and remember Soleum has gotten mad 7 times and only two are definitely of them seem to be of his own accord while two others are miscellaneous.

Now when I say mad I mean yelling, anger, rage. Getting upset, distressed, or annoyed does not count. I'm also not counting small occasions due to contamination (such as his anger when seeing the intruders as a Sekwang high schooler). I'm only counting big moments which resulted in something happening.

He gets mad 2 times due to contamination. Once in Part 1 as The Golden Flower Mascot where he gets upset at Magic Bunny's for attempting to ruin his ceremony and he nearly kills the contaminated guests. And another time in Part 2 when he gets a temp tatoo that makes him hurt Kwak Jekang. Both times once its over he snaps out of it pretty quickly and is immiedatly aware and guilty.

Now he gets mad 3 times as 130666 and one may not be of his own accord. He gets mad as he crushes the bathroom spirit, infuriated and enraged at his crushed mind and body and taking it out on the spirit. The other time is when Cheong grabs him by the head like an animal and he feels a genuine rage. This one is rlly unusual cause Braun even commented on it. Its also the only time Soleum has explicitly told us he's angry.

The Third time is unusual. While 130666 usually has a silent giant rage that looms, this one doesn't seen to match it all. It was when j3 tried to devour Soleum and he had the thought process of being aggravated and offended such a thing would try to devour him. In a superior tone. He immiedatly gets confused as that wasn't him. My guess it was Yongyong's thoughts because the body was closer to hers than his at this point?

Anyways now we get to rlly interesting bits. The times that aren't influenced by Contamination or your mind and body being a crushed mess. Instead this is purely Soleum. Influenced by nothing but his own mind.

And this rlly makes the audience see how strange his anger is. How it happens at such unusual times. Because he never ever gets angry. Except for these two times with quite a large similarity.

They both relate to him going home. Or how he got here from home. They relate to his position here.

The first time was when he met a researcher from Cheerful and it was revealed how he was summoned here. It was revealed he was the reason for Sekwang city. And he got mad. A genuine cruel anger. He made the researcher figure out his identity as the one from a world without ghost stories and told him that he would never help him. He left the researcher to die knowing that cruel bit of information. Brushed it out of his mind and moved on.

This moment of anger rlly rlly stands out because it doesnt feel like Soleum at all. Soleum is kind and always feels an instinctual feeling to help people. And it was just shown that Cheerful genuinely had good intentions and no plan to harm anyone. They just wanted to create a safe world.

And Soleum crushes those dreams. Didnt even give them a second thought and basically spat in this man's face. And thats so weird! Because that doesnt feel like Soleum at all!

The next time Soleum gets mad is at Agent Choi. When Choi tells him that he can't go home. Soleum tries to calm himself down, to analyze the situation and figure a way out. Like he always does. But he fails. His anger blows up and all planning goes out the window. He yells, he nearly grabs Choi, he's angry, and he runs.

This doesn't make sense at all until the theory that I stated above comes up. That Soleum IS angry. This is just the filter stopping him from being.

Because the OG Soleum. IS angry. IS selfish. He angrily declares and says that this entire city can solve its own problems. Most of the entire interaction with him was filled with his angry and desperate thoughts. So unlike the Soleum we know who's nearly never angry at all. And here is OG Soleum angry at a moments notice.

And secondly your analysis is legendary. I think I need to reread the entire series once again tbh.