Thinking...

AND I HAVE LOVED THEM ALL!!!

But yesterday's teleportation of Jungkook at the Palacio Nacional, A 'moment' I see being spread on the jikook timeline, simply put, was not because of Jimin. I have seen a clip that has been cut to reflect just that, which...I mean...since when have we EVER had to edit anything to make it seem like a jikook moment? These moments just naturally are.

Anyway, if you watched the whole clip which I linked below, you'll realize that Jungkook moved sides when he realized the mics were coming out and he moved to let NAMJOON know. THAT was the reason.

Yes, he stayed there, and he and Jimin looked all cutesy afterwards, I'm not taking that away, but Jimin is not the reason he moved. I feel like when we put a twisted context on what is obviously not it, something that can be blatantly and easily discredited, then we're stepping into the realm of the culters.

They are the ones that attach meaning to simple, logical actions of the boys when we know for a fact, if you look at the bigger picture, there is no romantic/relationship undertone anywhere.

So yeah...when I saw jikookers going to town with this instance, it kinda made my head go...Why? There's nothing there.

I know I'll probably catch a lot of hate for this from my fellow jikookers and I'm fine with that. I still love you all and love jikook; we can have differing opinions.

Anyway...tonight's another concert and those two are getting more comfortable with each other on the stage the longer this tour goes! So we'll see!

I am ARMY. As long as BTS and its members continue their careers, I will always be a part of this fandom. And I love my fandom.

Most of the time.

And I rarely speak ill of them.

But I'm kinda getting fed up of the hypocrisy these days.

With those ridiculous dating rumours (you know which) making its circulation these days, the common consensus being posted by the fandom is "It's none of our business. Let the boys date who they want. They're grown a$$ men. They deserve to date."

But I've noticed that this is what is said when it's a member...and a girl.

Here's the truth. These rumours were started on NOTHING - the most asinine of over-analyzed coincidences and/or made up crap. But the fandom has run with it. Without question.

But when ANYTHING remotely romantic is insinuated (justifiably so) about Jimin and Jungkook...well...there's a whole different response isn't there?

No one says "they're free to date who they want" or "it's their business, not ours".

No.

Suddenly, the common consensus is "it's toxic shippers" and "they're brothers".

I see you, ARMY.

Like I said...hypocrisy.

There is infinitely more 'proof' of Jimin and Jungkook being romantically involved than there has ever been with them and other people. But somehow, those rumours get believed while Jikook just always gets pelted into the box of visceral denial, "Shut Up, They're Bros".

I just don't get it...

Anyway...

At the end of the day, it's during times like these that I feel like Jimin and Jungkook will always be fighting a losing battle, and that they will only ever have each other and the ones closest to them.

Okay. So, one of the very very few things about the 'k-pop system' that I do like is the formation and release of music as units from the groups.

So it got me thinking about BTS. Because in between their group comebacks and solo stuff in the future, I really REALLY would love for them to release some official music as units.

And THAT got me thinking about what units I would immediately love to see put music out/promote/possibly tour. Now, honestly, ANY unit from the boys would be amazing but I'm sure everyone would have some 'dream team combos' they would be partial to.

Here's mine (that nobody asked for but I'm giving it anyway):

RAPLINE

BTS boasts the best rapline ever (and that's impartiality talking). Separately, Joon, Yoongi and Hobi have amazing music. Their unit songs on BTS albums are BANGERS. Who wouldn't want a whole freaking album of that?! And a tour to boot! So while this isn't necessarily a ranking list, a rapline unit for me would still be at the top of that list.

JIKOOK

By numbers alone, Jimin and Jungkook are arguably BTS' two most successful members, the 'Golden Duo' if you will. Alone and by themselves, they have already shown their star power on the charts, both having achieved #1 on the 'coveted' Billboard Hot 100, both having multiple Billion Plaques from Spotify, and both having broken some of BTS' own records. Couple that with the ridiculous chemistry these two have on and off stage, along with their vocals that complement each other so well. Can you imagine if BigHit were to open their eyes, harness that power and put these two in a unit? I don't think the world is ready. But I sure as hell will be!

VOCAL LINE

My little dream has always been that if the boys need some rest from touring and promoting as a group, then the next best thing is to split off into their rap and vocal units for a minute. That way, they get to rest in turn and we get some amazing music and tours. BTS boasts a vocal line with the most unique range and tones among its members (sorry to JK and Tae who will have to deal with Jin and Jimin's range lol). They're simply magic together. I would love to see them as an official unit.

3J

Okay, so while having the rapline and vocal line separate as a unit, I cannot begin to comprehend that AWESOMENESS that would be a combo unit. And Jimin, Jungkook and Hobi would be such a trip. Just thinking about their stage presence alone on a tour has me salivating. They don't even have to sing, honestly.

A SINful SUGAKOOKIE

So I'm cheating here a little because this isn't technically a musical unit but a comedic, variety one. Just thinking about Jin and Yoongi as a duo would have me in stitches, what with Jin's slapstick and Yoongi playing the straight guy lol. Throw Jungkook in the mix with his and Jin's dynamic and I think we've got comedic gold. Honestly, any combination of members would be awesome in variety too, but these three might be something special.

VMIN

While we're on variety, I think having these soulmates drum up some goofy entertainment would also be a must-watch. I just love the bond these two have so very much. Being the same age in the group (and touchy-feely inclined) gives them a unique dynamic. Jimin and Tae can make you cry one minute, and laugh out loud the next with them ribbing each other. Either way, these two would be a dream to see as well.

So there you have it - my list of units I would love to see from BTS. Like I said, any combination for me would honestly be welcome cuz I think we can all agree that we will take BTS any which way we can get them. But I can still have my dream list.

Anon, even you don't believe that, cause you yourself, if you been here for a while, knows how private Jimin is. She hasn't been telling people for years. She has been setting Jimin up is what she has been doing. This isn't about his fans. It has always been about hurting Jimin & getting a reaction out of him. These weren't threats to his fans. It was threats to him. No one who is dating Jimin, who loves Jimin, who is in a serious current relationship with Jimin, would do this. And you are crazy if you think Jimin would sit back and let his partner do this as well. No one knows the truth, but we know him well enough to know, whatever that situation was, its not current now, otherwise she would not be risking losing him doing this. Therefore this is not claiming. Learn the difference. This is, stalking, harassment, exposing, invading privacy, defaming, and deserves a restraining order. That is what this is, anon. And if you cared about Jimin, you would report her, not encourage her.

she’s BEEN telling you guys to stop provoking her and calling her crazy for years and now that she finally snapped and gave you the proof that she actually is with Jimin you’re questioning her motives? She just claimed her man as she should.

What proof? Please, Anon, tell me EXACTLY what those videos demonstrated besides them knowing each other?

Her 'hints' as you put them have been posts of questionable pics that could just have easily been proven fake to the point that it wouldn't prove a relationship. And BH/Jimin rightfully did not give her the attention she was clearly looking for. This new slew of posts? Yeah, it now has Jimin in them but again...NOTHING to prove anything romantic, only of course...attention-seeking. I'm sure she has many more videos which only proves that at some point she was in his life. That's it.

BigHit will more than likely sue her a$$.

Hi everyone! It's been a minute. But of course I have been dragged out of my cave in light of very recent happenings. I am not going to bother posting the video but I'm also not going to pretend it doesn't exist and isn't making its way around social media faster than Yoongi's' rap in Cypher 2. So here's my two cents as per usual:

Let's assume throughout this discourse for ease of understanding that Jimin and Jungkook are just close friends. We were all wrong and jikook have only ever been friends and bandmates who love each other dearly. Yada Yada...

First off...make it make sense!

The Idol Industry is very hush hush about dating.

BTS members are even more private.

Park Jimin is even more more private.

So hypothetically, if he was in a relationship with someone, like all other Idols, he would assumedly want it kept private.

OR...if he did want it to be public, given that HE is the world-famous one with everything on the line, I would imagine he would either announce it himself or do a reveal together with that person. And when he is in South Korea where his company can control the narrative in the media.

NEVER in a million years would it be logical to think a BTS member (or any Idol for that matter) would allow their relationship to be outed on a TikTok live by their significant other.

Make. It. Make. Sense.

Now, to the obvious that we should acknowledge because nobody (and by nobody I mean me) will be burying their head in the sand.

From the video (which is old and not recent at all), Jimin obviously knows this person and from his tone of voice and comfort in speaking he is comfortable and friendly. There's no denying that.

But that, my friends, does not a romantic relationship confirm.

It could be, I'm not saying it is or isn't.

(Patiently waits for the translation of what he spoke in those videos)

Anyway, what it boils down to is why would this person reveal these private videos publicly? And why now?

So this my take on everything (keep in mind it is just my opinion which can but doesn't have to be right).

I think they were once friends (Yes! Insane, I know! Men and women can be just friends!). And given what Jimin has revealed in the past through interviews and FACE, she might have been one of those people he had in his life that he loved and trusted, who just used him, hurt him, and so he cut her off.

It could have also been a romantic entanglement for all we know. I for one am not going to be hard and fast delusional and say for certain that could never be a possibility because (even though I still 100% believe in jikook) there will always be room to be wrong as long as there is no confirmation.

But even so, I don't think it's a current thing.

Why now? It could simply be a matter of him being out of the military and BTS being on the verge of an epic comeback (and not in South Korea).

Clearly she has latched on to Jimin and their connection, given her posts and rants in the past. But if we go back, this woman is clearly not keeping a narrative, which strikes me immediately as unstable. And that in and of itself lends to a lot of reasonable doubt.

In short...she seems cray cray y'all.

Anyway, regardless of what the video confirms or not, I hate that Jimin has to now deal with it. He has seemed so happy and at ease these days...finally!!!...after his enlistment. He said as much in his last Live with Jungkook. He is working, living, loving life with his members after so long. So to have this be happening now, I feel sad for him.

I do hope that BigHit foregoes its 'policy' of not making clarifying statements to the press in hopes of...I don't know...rumours dying a natural death. Because this is not a situation that they should deal with quietly. Jimin gets entirely too much hate from antis and especially taekook shippers, and this will bring a ton-load more should it not be debunked publicly.

So please, report the links through HYBE's official channels so that they know.

In times of doubt and/or frustration, I'd like you to kindly remember that the truest reflection of the behaviour of Taekookers and Jikookers is this:

WINNERS FOCUS ON WINNING, LOSERS FOCUS ON WINNERS.

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk. Do have a blessed day.

It's probably not something I would be able to articulate well. I can maybe try but it would take some thinking I guess.

Anyway, sorry if this is taken the wrong way but...I would like to genuinely know if you are not a bts fan and you don't know anything about jikook...then where and how do you find things like this to see?

Because these things work with tags and I might be wrong but don't you have to go searching through tags or at least search FOR a tag to get posts like this?

Because I can't speak for every jikook blog but I can speak for myself when I say my tags are strictly jikook-related.

She tried to pretend she wasn't anti-jkk and tkk fan, but she repeated absolutely all of their theories and in the end she completely fell apart. Do you really think we are on the same level of stupidity as you?

Exactly. Even if they weren't a taekooker, they certainly were not a jikooker. So why come into our space and spout some long essay about a relationship you clearly care nothing about?

As we bring in the new year and all the possibilities and hope that it brings, I thought I'd reflect on the year that was 2024 and all that we received from Jimin and Jungkook. Here are some of my favourite presents!

Are You Sure? - Duh! Lol. How else would I begin this list? I don't think there was anyone who could have ever predicted that we would be getting a reality series with just Jikook. Like...THAT HAPPENED! We literally got to spend 8+ hours with Jikook and their dynamic. Added to that...MERCH?! So I'd say it was a pretty rewarding year if we'd just gotten that.

MUSE - I'm sure we all felt a bit dejected when FACE's promo time wasn't that long due to most of the guys needing to release their stuff before their enlistment date in December. This is not meant to be a fighting point (I don't care to entertain mantis). Anyway, it was a joy to not only see him release another album, but also have that album and it's HUGE single be given an adequate amount of focus time. I personally enjoyed MUSE more, as the songs were more to my taste and...BLONDE JIMIN!!! I was completely obsessed with his look for this album. And I love that even though a lot of English was incorporated into the album, there was still a very big presence of Jimin in its creation. Jimin is so creative, it isn't even funny, and I personally look forward to him being more involved in BTS' music production and lyricism.

WHO - Listen...when Seven came out and did THOSE numbers, my mind was blown. Just look at the records it took from BTS and Dynamite/Butter! I was like...how can that ever be topped? Well, Park Jimin had something to say about that, apparently. I cannot even begin to tell you how many times I was simply dumbfounded that Who was not only keeping pace or was close to what Seven did last year, but surpassed it in so many key areas! It isn't that I doubted Jimin or anything. But certain patterns have been established; Jungkook has, for years, been arguably the most popular member just based purely on a consumption factor. So his releases would have done numbers. And Seven was a very heavily promoted single. Not to mention, Jungkook himself was present to do a promo run (which is why it got radio for those who don't understand how radio deals work in the US). So what Who has achieved without all of that (especially without Jimin to physically be here to promote) is absolutely incredible. And it shows me that, like Jungkook, Jimin would absolutely kill a solo run whenever he so chooses in the future. I am like a proud mama seeing what Who continues to achieve to this day, and am happy that he has the support.

Who Is My Heart Waiting For - Yes, Jimin. Who was your heart truly waiting for? lol. I won't go into much analysis here because there are amazingly detailed, cohesive, logical takes on the Who MV by others, so you can check those out. What I will say is that there is not a doubt in my mind that those are Jungkook's eyes in that billboard, and that this MV was done deliberately. Jimin and Jungkook have, over the years and on numerous occasions, put a bit of each other into their art, and just enough to have our heads scratching yet not be overtly obvious about anything. Kings of subtle yet loud, I would say. And this MV for me, was another example of that. Sure, one can debate that we can't be 100% certain it's JK but to that I say...to each his own. Because it wasn't just the eye thing. It was the entire MV. And the link to Taeyang and his ENL mv, I don't think is a coincidence. He is one of Jimin's biggest influences, and they did spend time together. I truly do think that Jimin used this opportunity to tell us who really has his heart.

Jikook are a MUSICAL DUO FORCE to be reckoned with - Potential relationship aside, looking at Jimin and Jungkook from a purely professional standpoint, what 2024 has shown me is that if these two were to ever be given the opportunity to become a sub-unit in the future...they would conquer the musical world. They have both shown with their music, that they have the support to be absolutely successful, and with the release of AYS, and how it was received, there is an indication that they are a very popular duo within the fandom as well (don't let keyboard trolls on social media gaslight you into thinking otherwise). Plus, the stage presence they have individually, and the chemistry they have together is otherwordly insane. So if there is one wish that I did have where jikook are concerned, it would be that BigHit see the potential there and give them a shot at a sub-unit at some time.

Jikook continues to Jikook - No matter what anyone comes on here to say (anti, solo, akgae, denialists etc), 2024 has shown us that Jimin and Jungkook continue to go very strong. They enlisted together for a reason, and it seems that they are happy they did so. These two continue to be the 'You Are Me, I Am You' duo that the universe conspired to put together. They are happy together now, and I cannot wait for them to be happy together come June, 2025.

Anyway, those were just some of the little gifts that I was happy to be given by these two this past year. I'm sure I missed some stuff, so you are most welcome to share your thoughts too.

Saw this now because i was away cause of family functions n all so I'm replying now.

Never said jkk ONLY met when AYS started don't put words into my mouth. but yes i definitely believe when they said they didn't look for eachother because that was clear as we never saw them like we used in the past. what i belive is they didn't meet eachother as often as they used and it wasn't just because they were busy at the same time because we're talking about jm who makes time for everyone.

1) Y'all calling everyone who has different opinions as y'all as tkkrs shows me how much different opinions are welcomed in "jikookers" fandom lol.

2)I knew you're going to talk about 2013 jkk bickering and hence why i clearly said "In the last few years" because when i said last few it means last 4-5 years out of a decade they have known e/o. I also acknowledged the fact that jkk night be this way all years and we didn't see it as much because we never had ONLY jkk focused content for hrs long but you clearly missed that point.

3) I literally said that the awkwardness can also be because they didn't plan things did you miss that again or what??

4)Again never said they only met when cameras were rolling those are your words not mine. i simply said they met e/o after some time and that period could be however long. and i still stand by what i said as how jk didn't go to support jm when he asked but went to Hawaii nothing is changing my mind about it.

5) And you know for sure they wouldn't have been assigned to frontline by the military itself if jm and jk were applying for military because? i mean jin served at frontline and it was chosen by military for him same for joon and hobi. they were assigned randomly so there's obviously chances that if they applied like other members they would get frontline it's a 50/50 situation girl. so they simply went with e/o. yes JK could have gone with TH but does TH's unit accept jk's visible tattoes? No. yes TH Could have gone with jk but he didn't because he already planned his special force. that leaves jm and jk alone and they have the option of going individually as well as together with Buddy program and they chose Buddy program because guess what? I'd do the same. I'd rather go with my friend than go alone idk what type of friendships y'all have but mine works this way.

and for "why" i think jikook changed is obvious. just like how taekook went from being attached at the hips during trainee days-debut days to getting awkward with e/o at some point same way jikook went from being attached at the hips to being just good friends with e/o. For me the difference is obvious for you it's not and even if initially i wanted to add the "why" now i don't because i don't wanna do the back and forth because i won't be on Tumblr after 2-3 days yeah. but in short if i wanted to give the "why" it's obviously the way they stopped spending Time together as often as they used to. They used to know things about e/o now they are not aware of many things going on with e/o. now as in the chapter 2. currently they're serving together so things might have gotten better as they got more time together.

NOTE: I never said jikook got awkward with e/o, they just stopped being the priority that they once used to be is all what i think. the love is there, the care is there it's same just not the priority. I'd also tell that i never once thought jikook were romantic partners even in the past but i used to think they're the closest members but now i don't think that way. also i also never commented on whether jk is closest to jm or tae (in my first post) so don't go around putting words into my mouth. jk could be closer to Tae or not i don't care about that i just simply don't think him and jm were same way with e/o as they used to in the past.

ALL THAT NONSENSE TO SAY AT THE END...You never once thought Jikook were in a romantic relationship.

You really are an absolute clown, aren't you?

And you expect anyone in this jikook space to give you the time of day after this?

I laugh!

Anyway, Jikookers...they always...ALWAYS end up revealing their true selves.

Unfortunately this space has become too cult-like where one just can't have a slightly differing opinion about Jimin and Jungkook's relationship or express how they personally truly observe it without Jikookers losing their minds or accusing them of things, the way you guys are doing right now.

There's literally no difference between this community and the Taekooker community anymore - I've seen that crazy side turn on their own just because they had the audacity to point out the ITS talk made sense to them because for a while prior to that even they felt things weren't the same between Taekook anymore. And now it's Jikookers doing the same to other Jikookers🤦🏻‍♀

People can believe that Jikook is real while still pointing out the things they feel contradict that belief, or they can believe they were together and no longer are but still think they are special to each other, or they can believe they aren't together in what one would consider the "conventional, traditional" sense.

Taekook can never be real. That is a ship that has no real substance and was literally formed on aesthetics and vibes and had a whole false narrative attached to it that became lore over the years. A lot of people say just Jikook's existence alone cancels out Taekook, but I think even if Jimin and Jung kook didn't have the kind of dynamic they have and/or they didn't exist as a duo, Taekook still wouldn't be real. Please there's fuckall there.

I am someone who believes there's something more than platonic between Jimin and Jungkook and that Jungkook is deeply in love with Jimin, but still I agree with everything the last anon's(s') said. They *are* different from how they were before and the last few years make it hard to believe in the kind of image of them that Jikook shippers have painted for years.

We are Jikookers, we are here, we exist. Accusing us of being Taekookers won't make that shit true. We don't have to be a monolith.

First thing's first - YOU may not be a taekooker in disguise, but the other anon most likely was. And most with dumb takes are as they have a knack of using the SAME rhetoric and examples every single time, not to mention, always managing to slip in Tae somehow. Let's get that out of the way.

Now, here's the thing, anon.

I understand completely, the feelings of confusion and second-guessing whether jikook are really together or not. I have been there before, on multiple occasions. There were things in the past as it happened that made me doubt whether my suspicions about the true nature of their relationship was right. I get it.

So don't go putting words into my mouth and think that you can assume 'what kind of jikooker' I am.

Cause like I've said on multiple occasions now, I did not start out in the ARMY fandom space either as a jikooker or as a shipper. I had no clue what shipping was. And til this day, I remain an ARMY supporting all of our boys as a group before any sort of shipping enters my mind. Whenever I watch BTS content, jikook as a couple is never at the forefront of my mind. I watch them as a part of Bangtan.

There are certain moments that jikookers put on a pedestal as concrete 'proof' of a relationship, that I side-eye and hence, make no post or comment on because it does not make sense.

If tomorrow, Jimin and Jungkook were to announce they were both dating other people, I would still be happy for them because before anything, I want them to be happy. If that's with other people, so be it.

So I know me and how I perceive Jimin and Jungkook's relationship. I trust my objectivity of their relationship over yours, thank you.

Now to what you have accused most in this community of...I have honestly yet to see to the extent that you have indicated. Harassing? Bullying? Cult-like? Well, I've got news for you. You're in the wrong side of town, deary. And people who go looking there, clearly want to find what they're looking for. (toxicity, by the way)

And the way you spoke of taekookers and knowing how they behave and treat each other?...Honey, the 'normal' jikooker would NEVER EVER find themselves anywhere near taekooker spaces willingly. But you have apparently. That says a lot.

You're looking for trouble. You're going to find it.

Also...my sympathy for you lessened when you compared jikookers to the cult. Because the last time I checked, jikookers didn't go around literally harassing Tae's and JK's FAMILIES AND FRIENDS in real frigging life. So miss me with that similarity nonsense. Point out all you want about SOME jikookers not being able to handle different takes of others all you want, that's fair. I'm sure there may be the immature ones like that in this community, I'm not denying it. I assure you, they're in the minority. But the minute you go comparing any shipping community's behaviour to THAT CULT...it clearly shows loose objectivity.

So with my sincerest heart, I would advise you to change your space. You're clearly in toxic spaces, jikook and taekook-wise. This is bound to influence how you view not only jikook but more importantly, the jikook community.

There is a reason why I don't answer or comment on toxic asks. It's because it brings negativity to the jikook space. And I don't want that. I have found myself probably treading on that territory these days with this discourse. But I'll work it out to bring back the space to positivity and just focusing on Jimin and Jungkook.

Anyway, the final thing I'm going to bring up is that you all keep speaking about Jungkook and Jimin's relationship changing with no actual evidence. You all simply point out things happening now but fail to actually show a proper comparison to the past to highlight the 'CHANGE'. That's not how that works.

For instance, I can say their relationship changed in that Jungkook became a lot bolder with JImin publicly as opposed to years ago. He actively flirts with Jimin on stage when, for instance, during the Red Bullet Tour (back in 2014-2015), he didn't. Jimin did. See how easy that is? Comparison.

If you have any sound comparisons...with proper context, by all means, share. I'm up to hearing it.

PS. This does not include "they don't see each other as much" because we are not privy to how much they actually saw each other back then nor how much they did in 2022/2023.

Well then be a brave lil soul and not be anonymous. Share your @ Otherwise...bye tkkr! You fools are so transparent, it isn't even funny.

First thing first i saw another anon say this anon is a tkkr who's sneaking in jkk space when i can very well tell anon is just a jkkr who has seen difference in jikook over the chapt2 era. Just because one jkkr doesn't agree with another doesn't mean they HAVE to be from another ship. And Tkkrs don't talk about jkk the way anon talked because it's hard for Tkkrs to even address the things jkk did together Especially GCFT so anon is definitely not a tkkr.

Second idk in which spaces YOU were because the whole jikook tag was clogged with very much negativity during AYS Especially after 1st,2nd ep because everyone was Feeling the difference in the way jk talked to anon because we have never seen them bicker this much after their debut self. over these past few yrs we have seen them very much be sweet towards e/o and not really bicker atleast not to the level of AYS and it was maybe because we never had full hrs of just jkk only so we're seeing their raw self so maybe jkk have been this way towards e/o for long time but we just never got to witness it before and hence why it was kinda shocking for many jkkrs and yes there was very much negativity. talking about how jk said "Jimin is dead" and laughed when jm was sick because some jkkrs didn't like that because they haven't seen jk talk like that etc etc. If you need @ of the blogs who's seen this negativity ask me and I'll definitely provide it in next ask (I'm not doing in this one because I don't wanna disclose their @ to other anons who might attack them).

Yes the 1st ep looked awkward maybe because they haven't hangout together for some time and when they're doing they're in front of cam so they don't know how to act, It happens when you're meeting s/o after some time and haven't exactly planned things you're doing or you haven't thought it thoroughly. They Started loosening up at the end of 2nd ep. And if anyone talks about their physical closeness as why would they be close like that when they are awkward then ITS taekook is good example of that why or how.

anon didn't lie when they said that jk didn't bother showing up for jm anywhere because that's true. he was at hybe for CK most probably saw jm is practicing stopped there and went home exactly like how he showed up at one of hobi's filming during JITB because the set was in hybe. That time jm specifically asked jk to come to show support to him more and jungkook didn't come again. we saw jm's practice BB and jk wasn't there again and when jk asked when was jm's next music show jm also told him that jk has already seen his dance during practice so it's normal to assume the practice was last one. yes he might have came for another practice but given we haven't seen I'll chose not to make up that "he came to the practice again" because if everyone just start assuming things with nothing to back up there's no difference them and Tkkrs.You remembered what jm said what during serendipity recording then how did you forgot what jm said During festa 2022 when jk was whinning about jm not showing him his songs along with other members?? let me tell you jm said "Well i told you, asked you all to come and see me work" so didn't jm give open invitation here to ALL members including jk? so did he go or not? i guess not if we go by the whinning he was doing over jm not showing him his song, we have also seen jk watching jm doing filter practice so I'm sure coming again for jm's other practices or MV sets to "show support" shouldn't be so hard given jk went to dream movie premiere, and a musical of tae's frnds to show support or wtv it was. plus given how jk traveled to Hawaii when tae said he missed jk so the hybe building (hobi saw jm there working as well so the pdogg house wasn't the only place jm worked) and before you wonder how new i am it's my 5th year in the Fandom. not as old as you but old enough to have known all of their contents.

Jimin talked about him talking with jk about music for hrs and said that he'd tell jk what he learned so i think he was talking about the time AFTER they shot in NYC for AYS. jm talked about going to vocal lessons when he was working on muse(in his live) so I'm assuming he talked with jk about music after NYC trip where he also heard "Who" for the very first time. my personal assumption which I'm pretty sure of is that jk wasn't aware of what's going on with jm when he was working on FACE and the live jk did after face dropped was him just catching up with what's jm doing. I mean he didn't even know when jm was doing his music shows etc etc. my personal assumption tho.

There's no need for jkk to lie to us and say "you didn't call me when i was free and i didn't call you when u were free" because they simply could have not said anything rather than lying. I'm definitely not a tkkr who spin their words to fit my narative so I'll take things as it is said to us when I don't see any reason for them to lie to us.

Yes having e/o in military is a comfort for them but I'll ask u if u get an option of enlisting alone OR u can Enlist with ur friend whom you know for a decade now what option would u chose? won't u wanna go with ur frnd if U actually have an option? given the status they have it's obvious more comfort for them that they have their frnd with them so I believe any normal human would chose to go with their frnd than alone with given option. and jkk do have visible tattoes so they obviously have limited options that don't mean they have to go with e/o BUT why not go with ur frnd than go alone? it's very natural doens't have to be "they can't live w/o e/o".

And just like Taekook changed jikook changed as well. many have hard time beliveing it but that's what how atleast some of us see it. have some points to add for this topic as why but it's already too long so I'll stop.

Thank you, anon, for the oh so detailed read.

And for also proving my point that some people on here actually believe that the only times jikook have ever interacted in their entire lives is when they film content for us.

Bravo!

I was going to just leave it at that but I've got some time so why not write more?

Anon not being a tkkr? Yeah, okay. It is true that not all jikookers have the same opinion. Some support, some simply ship and can become very insecure because they don't actually see jikook as two actual people in an actual relationship. But I actually have working braincells and can very easily spot tkkr rhetoric as opposed to insecure jikooker rhetoric. Anon was a tkkr clearly trying to gaslight. I can actually point out very specific phrases used if you'd like.

Jikook have never bickered before AYS? Really?! REALLY?! You stated you're five years into this fandom so my assumption is your consumption of content begins at 2019. Because there is NO WAY that anyone could have seen jikook interactions since 2013, and claimed they have only ever been 'lovey-dovey'.

If there was any awkwardness at the very beginning of filming (which I still have yet to see), do you know why? It's because Jimin and Jungkook DIDN'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY WERE FILMING! They didn't even have a frigging name for the show! To the point that they, along with the staff said on multiple occasions that they didn't even know if this even would be released. Not because they were awkward with each other but because they were just going with the flow for the first time. And as entertainers, they needed to feel out the situation to provide content for us. Guess what? That takes a bit of time.

And your whole essay on JK not being there for Jimin? I'm not even going to go into detail because clearly the only time Jimin and Jungkook interact is when a camera is rolling.

Finally the military thing. You know what would have been more comforting than each other? Being assigned to an area that wasn't the most dangerous and active. And visible tattoos have nothing to do with anything as a lot of persons have posted about. It may have barred them from a select few, but certainly not all other avenues. And Jungkook could have just as easily chosen Taehyung to enlist with. But he didn't. And I hardly think he tossed a coin or that Jimin was the second option. The apparently indigestible fact remains that jikook actively chose each other.

You claim that jikook changed, just like Taekook, and that's just how some of 'you' see it. Fine. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. And I would actually genuinely be interested in those 'whys' you mentioned.

But please, when you do, make sure you can clearly reference from the beginning.

I feel you, anon. They think they're so smooth trying to come in here sounding logical, sane and unbiased. The tricks they try...

It would take a truly very immature thinking person to actually believe the only time these boys meet up is when we see it in a video. Like...really?!

Anyway, anyone who doesn't realize that Jimin and Jungkook joke around with each other saying things when clearly they aren't true...well...stay in your dreamworld, I guess.