Rereading cob and it’s so funny that clary and jace both spend most of this book watching each others’ interactions with simon and alec and thinking “how tf do you not realize your best friend is in love with you??”

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Rereading cob and it’s so funny that clary and jace both spend most of this book watching each others’ interactions with simon and alec and thinking “how tf do you not realize your best friend is in love with you??”

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Anyone else remember that old post where CC goes through a list of all the TMI characters explaining how she can't kill any of them because killing Alec or Magnus would be bad gay representation, killing Maia or Magnus would be bad POC representation, killing Clary or Isabelle would be bad woman representation, killing Simon would be bad Jewish representation, and killing Jace would be boring because he's already died once.
I'm kind of obsessed with the mindset she brings to her allyship. Only kill straight white Christian men, it's why Jordan had to die.
the criticism of the early tmi books for being so troupey is so funny to me bc like. city of bones was released in 2007. 2007!!!! i’m sorry but clary fray was the original it girl
i do think we should normalise being like. platonically enamoured with someone. perhaps i love and admire you dearly and there's nothing romantic about it
Wound Man is so interesting and incredibly tragic to me. What if your town was poisoned by a large corporation? Everyone in town is numb, they can’t feel anything and so you ask for help, for someone to stop the poisoning from happening. Your poor wife, she didn’t even feel the fire as it melted he alive, may not have even stirred her from her sleep. And so you search, and nail, and stab, and pray to find pain, to find hurt, to find something. And only after filling your body with nails and metal do you realize all you can do it save others from your fate, all you can do is make sure others can feel the pain that you can’t.

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I think Bruce, despite his immense paranoia and untouchable wits, would be the first one to fall for a trap when he thinks someone innocent is in danger. Sure his wits are unmatched but his heart is the biggest of them all no matter what anyone says or believes.
He's the kind of person who will stop in the middle of nowhere if he sees an abandoned baby crying on the road or some homeless kid searching for food. He knows it very well could have been a trap but his conscience won't let him leave anyone in need/help behind.
He would time and time again choose death/ambush over a suspicious situation where the life of an innocent person is concerned than think with cold blooded logic. And he has been hurt in scenarios like this before but it never stops him from doing the right thing. His altruistic personality is a compulsion and a toxic religion to his conscience rather than a trait.
Bruce and Khoa are compelling to me whether as friends or as lovers because of this reason: Bruce is himself in this relationship, his bleeding-heart, hope-filled, love-conquers-all self, even though Khoa has repeatedly and intentionally betrayed him, even making him an accessory to murder, and he doesn't give up on Khoa because Bruce Wayne doesn't know how to give on people, he loves and loves and loves and he keeps trying and he keeps believing people can change, or can at least make better choices, and he keeps giving them chances to prove it, and every now and then, Khoa proves him right.
Do you have any thoughts on the idea of Bruce giving Cass Martha’s jewelry?
Okay, first, we have to distinguish between everyday jewellery, and Martha's Jewellery.
Most rich people do not wear their actual jewels very often. They're either kept in a vault, or the person rents them from ... I think jewelers? Maybe fashion designers? Someone/thing that owns fancy jewellery, anyways. Actual jewels are only worn to very fancy occasions.
If we're talking about Bruce getting Martha's Jewellery out of the vault for Cass to wear to a gala, I have mildly positive opinions. He'd take it back after. This is normal and doesn't inspire me.
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If we're talking about Bruce getting Martha's everyday jewellery out of her room and giving it to Cass to keep? Oh, I have THOUGHTS!
I think that Alfred would STRONGLY disapprove. Most of Martha's jewellery was expensive and should be treated very delicately, something Cass isn't known for. (Yes, I know I just said that this isn't capital-J Jewellery. It's expensive at a much smaller scale.) Alfred also cared about Thomas and Martha, and doesn't want their memories to be disrespected.
I think that Cass wouldn't be quite sure what to do with the gift, but it would be very meaningful. She has nowhere to store jewellery. She has a very different fashion sense then her adopted grandmother. She's not sentimental. She can tell it's important, but not in a way she's familiar with.
But I think that she'd wear it. She'd wear a lovely gold necklace full of faux-rubies with a black leather vest and a skater skirt over striped leggings. She'd paint her nails dark red to match. And Bruce would stop breathing.
Bruce makes shrines for his loved ones. In their shrines, they live on, unchanged. Nothing gets touched - including the memories, if he can help it.
But Cass would transform these pieces of Martha. She'd wear them in ways that COULD NOT echo her grandmother, and Bruce ... Bruce would have to let go. Because she'd be beautiful, and real, and respecting his mother, and unforgettably here in the now.
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I think the first time she broke or chipped a piece would also be a moment where both of them healed, a little. Where Bruce sees pearls falling, for an endless moment; and then his daughter is there, and alive, and it's just some pretty stones on the ground. Where Cass sees something dying in Bruce's eyes, and remembers the life she took; but then it's just a broken bracelet, and Bruce is alive, and his smile is real as he picks up the pieces.
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I think that Cass would ROCK Martha's jewellery, and it would be a healthy experience for everyone!
#let Cass wear a crooked tiara with fingerless gloves and mesh tights worn as sleeves #take one of martha's necklaces that supposed to be wrapped around the neck multiple times #and use it as a decorative belt #let her punk up all this classy jewellery and charm her dad in the process #yes [tags via OP]
I fucking adore the use of cave systems in the last arc of Batman: the Knight. Bruce has been all about learning all the skills he can, learning control, but also discovering prices he won't pay, extremes he's not willing to go to.
Ra's is the last teacher, the one who reached out to him, running an extremely high-tech self-sustaining compound. Ra's' whole deal is about seeing the majority of humanity as a blight on the planet (not that he makes that view apparent immediately).
While there, Bruce discovers the compound's mountain setting means it connects to a cave system, which he explores when he can get away from the eyes on him. He's also been discreetly tipped off about Ra's' missile silo.
Bruce does not want to kill anyone! That is his core line in the sand! But how do you render these missiles inoperable and destroy Ra's' ability to make more without massive amounts of destruction?
You don't. But you can evacuate everyone out of the compound and into the huge natural cave system.
Ra's and Bruce are both about control, of themselves, and of other people. Ra's is obsessed with his narrow view of the environment, of how the Earth "should" be, and he's using technological marvels to pursue his goals.
Bruce has been learning very human-centric skills, as his focus is on stopping other humans from committing violent crimes. He learns fighting, escape arts, psychology, disguise, infiltration...but he's also taken the time to learn about observing nature, such as reading the wind. His exploration of the caves doesn't come out of nowhere, but those skills haven't been the focus. It's not what we expect Bruce to use.
Ra's claims to care about the environment while hating humanity, but it's the natural cave system he ignored that Bruce uses to defeat him without compromising his own dedication to preserving human lives.
I love that.
Then Bruce goes home. His journey is done and he goes home, to Gotham, to his city...
And ends this story by descending into natural cave system that has always been there, unexplored, descending into the cavernous darkness beneath his home.
Rereading batman: the knight and oh god this series of panels is just devastating.
I love Lucie and how complicated her mentor-mentee relationship is with Bruce but this? Good lord. Like I doi think she genuinely means well, and context taken in, it makes sense. Bruce almost killed a man to boody pulp. But like, it's just so so so devastating for Zdarsky to put this line here because it introduces the idea of Batman as a curse, a someone who has violence inherently intertwined with his love for humanity. He has to channel that rage and need for vengeance into something concrete (Batman) to then become justice. And like this is a very very common theme and characterisation of Bruce but its introduced to Bruce so lovingly that it is just devastating. In a sense, because of this Bruce only is further determined to fight, because if his mentor said he's made up of violence, isn't that the only way for him to be bigger, to be the change he wants so badly in the world?
This is the point where he really can't go back, he can't go back to alfred, can't go back to Gotham, can't pretend it was just a rebellious stint like all those other times. He has to commit now, to his sabbatical that Lucie is so tenderly sending him away on and he can't go back.
Really it's Zdarsky thats tenderly sending Bruce off onto this journey, and I think it's done so in a tragically beautiful way. To really kick off Bruce's training years with a goodbye kiss and the gentle reminder that he is violence that has no yet been tamed is such a good writing choice. It's so inherently personal to Bruce because if it was some enemy of his or an antagonistic force saying it then Bruce might go to oppose that idea, to prove he's not as violent as they'd claim him to be. But it's Lucie saying that, Lucie, his first ever real mentor. Lucie, who he loves and knows loves him back. And because of that, Bruce will cling onto the sentiment, that he isn't anything more than violence and darkness and that he needs to be feared.
I think though that the more I look at it, the more I break. It is such a loving but hurtful statement from Lucie and it's so clear she's damning him to a violent life despite how much she loves him and I don't think there's anything more tragic than that.

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The fact that the last panel of the issue has Bruce crying with his face hidden in his knees talking about how shattered he’s feeling and the first panel of the NEXT ISSUE has a girl in the same position crying “I love him…”
ZDARSKY?!
Look its about how sometimes alfred will threaten to/talk about resigning from his job and wondering about the dynamic of how alfred would have raised bruce as an employee instead of a parent and the skewed power dynamic and how threatening to resign might have been one of the ways alfred was able to actually get bruce to listen to him and how it would have been so effective because bruce was a child who lost his parents violently and would not want to lose another and its about how this relationship shapes the way the Batman and Robin dynamic works. Does love make the most sense when its a job. Is firing robin a test to see if they love him when they dont have to or is it him proving to them he loves then when it isnt a job. I dont know what im talking about but do you see where my mind is at
rough drafting it here but i think Batman has a special connection to the concept of child sidekicks in a way that defies modern feelings about child soldiers because he was the child who lost everything and felt he needed to make a change in the world but was denied the agency and choice to do anything. child Bruce would have fit right in with any of the Robins if he'd had a Batman and it's the fact that he didn't that ultimately drives him to extend the choice he never got. it was never about soldiers or "refusing to protect the children from themselves," it is, within the acceptable morality of the genre, respecting a child's personhood and ability to make decisions for themselves and giving them opportunities their adult never had. it's why you can't take the Robins away from Batman without significantly changing the character, because Batman was born from child Bruce's most heartfelt wish to be able to DO something about all the injustice in the world and so to deny other children that is to deny himself
Batman’s compassion for criminals and murderers is fascinating when put up against his anger and distrust and sometimes contempt for Jason and Helena, again and again the one thing he truly can’t stand is murder in the name of some greater good
he understands and forgives greed and anger and fear and desperation as a reason for killing but the second you try to smear a bit of righteousness over that death he is disgusted, he is actively less empathetic, he wants nothing to do with you personally
I think one of the key things here is also that Jason and Helena operate in Gotham and Bruce is driven enough by favouritism and territoriality that this contempt gets driven to the forefront and he feels he has more say in what goes on in his city
traditional yelling-and-hitting abusive parent bruce wayne is SO boring to me okay. give me a man who is doing his best and his best isn't good enough. the harder he tries the worse it becomes. he wants to do right by them. he is constitutionally incapable of doing right by himself. he cannot begin to comprehend what it does to a person to see a person they care for, who has cared for them, destroy himself. you are the child and you thought he was the adult but he's never been the adult. he locked himself in stasis so he could hold his trauma forever and he'll never accept that he's allowed to let it go. he's hurting himself and he's always been hurting himself and you can never let on that it hurts you because he won't stop, he'll just put more distance between you, enough that he thinks you won't notice anymore. you thought he was going to save you but he was drowning before you even got here. you love him and you hate him for making you love him and for making you watch him stagger under the weight of all his masks. but as long as there's a crisis, as long as there's someone else to save, it's fine. it can be fine. you can save someone, somewhere. you can do it together and it can feel like helping. you have all these feelings and nowhere to put them because you can never tell anyone. because that wouldn't be fair to him. they wouldn't understand. he's doing his best.
you are a child and your life has gone to shit, or maybe it's always been shit, but regardless you're here right now because you have Problems. and you are so young, and you are so angry, and none of the solutions anyone has ever offered you feel as good as the idea of being batman. this guy. this guy has it figured out. you are as sure of this as you have ever been of anything. if you could be batman, or something close to batman, that would fix it. that would fix something.
but he tells you, you don't need to do that. you don't need to do anything. you don't owe anything to anyone. you deserve to be safe. you deserve to be happy. you deserve a normal life. he won't let you get hurt. he says all the right things, the good things, except it seems like you're the only one who can hear the other part. the unlike me.
you try so hard to be good enough. he would tell you that you've always been good enough, but you know participation trophy bullshit when you hear it. you have to be good enough. you have to be able to hold your own. you have to be strong enough. you have to prove that he doesn't have to carry it all on his own. you can help. you can be the one that saves him back.
but it's never good enough. no matter how good you are, no matter how strong, how smart, how fast, how well you save the day, there is never a time that you will get anything better than just:
you didn't have to do that. i never asked you to do that. i didn't want you to do that. please don't do that again.
Yeah, just gonna go ahead and save op's tags, because they're a vital part of this post:
other approaches are VALID perfectionist bruce is VALID i'm just SAYING have you considered the TRAGEDY of it all if all they want is the same thing he wanted which is a parent they could save every one of them sure that they will be the kid who saves batman and every one of them realizing too late that he will not let them and him giving absolutely no one else the agency he gives himself to make bad decisions on purpose

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i think the thing about batman's no kill rule is that its essentially bruce saying "guilty people don't deserve to be murdered on the street either, actually." and he's not wrong.
#batman's no kill rule has so many good layers and so few people want to engage with it beyond 'I think it's dumb'#and that includes actual batman writers who have given the stupidest reasons for its existence#like there's the logistical level#if batman starts killing then he is going to have more problems dealing with the law and public opinion than he already has#then there's the personal checks and balances level#bruce is already a fuckoff wealthy genius if he starts killing that's an additional layer of power he has to trust himself with#i think there are similar reasons behind why he never tries to take public office or start his own 'criminal' syndicate to push out others#so THAT is the level where it works as a cautionary 'don't become like them' thing because bruce is already too powerful#and too fixated on controlling things. if he gives himself additional leeway to take more power & control he's gonna lose it#like someone who knows they've got an addictive personality refusing to even touch cigarettes or slot machines because haha NO#then there's the ethical level of people don't deserve to be killed on the street#and also batman specifically doesn't *want* to kill#like yeah maybe in the moment he gets mad enough at the joker or someone that he could kill them#but in general part of the whole reason he does this is because he doesn't want people to die he wants them to get help#and in a super hero and villains universe part of meeting ppl where they're at is putting on a costume and solving their death puzzle
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I love the idea that if Bruce had picked any other way to cope, Alfred would still have been ride or die for him. Bruce wanted to become a doctor? Alfred would be up helping him crunch before the MCATs at 3am. Bruce wanted to become an actor? Alfred would be enrolling him in all the best schools and getting Sir Ian McKellan to coach him. Bruce wanted to fight for the environment? Alfred would be showing him learn how to dismantle deforestation equipment. Alfred loves that boy but it's just Alfred's luck that his boy wants to dress like a Bat and fight crime with pointy boomerangs and a bitching car.