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Grilling Dahmer, chapter 2:

I entered first and saw three more uniformed cops, all dripping with sweat. They were straddling a Caucasian male suspect, who lay face down on the floor, handcuffed behind his back and shackled at the feet. One officer had his knee firmly in the suspect's back, another held his leg-ironed feet, and the third cop wiped his face with a hanky. Their uniforms looked just as unkempt as the first officer's.

I looked at the suspect as he lay on the floor. His light-colored hair was greasy and wet with perspiration. The faded denim shirt he wore was drenched with sweat, and I noticed he was bleeding slightly from the corner of his mouth. There was an obvious rug burn on his right elbow, glistening blood red. He appeared completely defeated, but his condition showed that a great struggle brought him to that point. He was motionless but made an ever-so-faint crying whine, like that of a child or a cat in the night.

The suspect walked slowly as he tried to negotiate the leg irons. His head was bowed over his slouched shoulders, but even in this position, I could tell he was over six feet and in good shape.

The wagon pulled up to the entrance of the apartment building, so the trip from the door was quick. I assisted the suspect into the wagon and climbed in after him. The two conveying officers got in the front and drove away toward the station. No one said a word as we cruised back downtown. I eyed the suspect as we rode. Although he was a good-sized man, he appeared almost fragile, sitting hunched over and trembling slightly. At the station, he cooperated-almost zombie-like as I led him into the prisoner elevator and up to the interrogation rooms on the fourth floor.

Once inside, I pointed to the cuffs and leg irons and said, "Take these off him."

"Look, Pat, I wouldn't do that. I had to fight with this fuckhead and he's no pussy." I looked at the copper and his pudgy partner and I knew he was not kidding.

I turned to the suspect. "Hey, if you give me your word you won't act up, we can take these off."

For the first time, the suspect looked at me directly and I caught his steely blue eyes. He nodded in affirmation and I motioned again for the officers to remove his shackles.

Grilling Dahmer, chapter 22/23:

Two deputies flanked Jeff and returned him to the holding cell. I walked over to him, standing alone, locked inside. As I approached, he moved closer to the bars of his cell. I reached through and took his outstretched hand. "Pat, I want to thank you for everything you did for me," he said. Shaking his hand for what I believed would be the last time, I said, “Good luck, Jeff. Take care of yourself." Then I turned and walked away.

People always say that I must have seen evil in his eyes as I sat down face to face with him during our interrogations, and I have to honestly tell them that I didn't. I saw a very normal, ordinary guy who-when we talked about things other than his crimes seemed very much like me, like you, like anybody you would meet.

“Despite Dahmer's crimes, Kennedy describes an odd kind of kinship that developed as he genuinely began accepting Dahmer's remorse for his numerous murders, and therefore experienced some grief when Dahmer was beaten to death a few years later. Kennedy quickly adds that he didn't befriend Dahmer at all during the time they spent meeting, and never considered him as anything other than a murder suspect. He did not continue to correspond with him and, in fact, never saw him again after Dahmer was led off to serve his sentence.”

More about Kennedy perspective:

As strange as it may seem, Jeffrey really trusted Detective Kennedy, and on the other hand Detective Kennedy low-key liked Dahmer. Without the help of Kennedy, Jeffrey wouldn’t opened up so easily.

🚑 Paramedics who took dahmer to hospital speak:

Responders the scene as exceptionally bloody, and noted Dahmer’s skull fractures and head wounds were far worse than what is typical seen in severe high-speed traffic accidents.

Craig S. Ratz, one of the medical personnel who attended to Dahmer later noted that he did not initially recognise Dahmer, due to the severity of Dahmer’s head injuries and the oxygen mask that was placed over his face.

***29/11/1994 INTERVIEW WITH THE PARAMEDICS TRANSCRIBED***

[Paramedic 1]: “I guess I won’t comment on it.”

[Paramedic 2]: "I think what happens a lot of the time…maybe this would shed some light, is even on a motorcycle vehicle accident, you may respond, especially in a small community, to someone that you know. But due to the extent of injuries and your focus on patient care, you don't pick up on those things. Maybe at a later time, you know, in the hospital setting where you have a little more time, you might recognize an individual."

[Male Interviewer]: “Well when did you realise who this was? When did you learn?”

[Paramedic 1]: "I guess when we were at the hospital was when we were basically given all the updates and information that was available at that time."

[Male Interviewer]: “What was your reaction to that?”

[SILENCE]

[Paramedic 1]: "I guess, I mean, basically at that point in time, you're still dealing with... what's going on, so, um, emotions don't come into play at that point in time."

[Male Interviewer]: “But did you just ‘oh my god’, was there any sense of wow or what?”

[Paramedic 1]: “I guess, not really at that time I mean—“

[Woman Interviewer]: “How did you sleep last night?”

[Paramedic 1]: “I guess looking back on it…”

[SILENCE]

[Paramedic 1]: "Confident in the fact that we did what was necessary and to the best of our abilities to assist both individuals."

[Paramedic 1]: “So, I mean…we did what we could and gave it the best shot so.”

[Woman Interviewer]: "Is there any sort of ambivalence about... there seems to be a certain amount of rejoicing going on in some areas of the state, and it's just sort of a freaky kind of sensation that you did the best you could to keep someone alive like that?"

[SILENCE]

[Paramedic 1]: "I guess... the people that were out there were doing a job; they were professionals, and I guess that takes care of, you know, all the shadows that would be cast otherwise."

[Paramedic 2]: "In talking to some of our EMTs, you know, a couple of them were on the call, I think some people have the feeling that it's unfortunate that this incident got so much media attention simply from the standpoint that he was a famous person or a well-known person because of the acts that he committed or the terrible things that had transpired in his life, which was a tragedy from the start. But there are so many other people that have done so many good things that go unrecognized. You know, that's the sad part, I think a lot of people feel."

[Woman Interviewer]: "I guess that's what I mean about whether you feel any personal ambivalence about it. You know that you have to remove yourself now, and obviously, you're committed to do the best. You don't know who it is, you don't care who it is, you're doing the best you can."

🎬 “my friend dahmer” | 2017. dir by: marc meyers.

𝙸𝚏 𝙷𝚒𝚜 𝙶𝚊𝚣𝚎 𝚆𝚊𝚜 𝚊 𝚅𝚘𝚒𝚍, 𝙻𝚒𝚏𝚎𝚕𝚎𝚜𝚜

After questioning Dennis Nilsen for many weeks, Brian Masters believed he had uncovered the reason why Nilsen was driven to kill.

those damn hush puppies…👞