the Malvinas aren't an "argentina's right's obsession", over 300 young men and dare I say kids died on that war fuck you

"the banner incident" why is a fuck you to british imperialism (which, no, wasn't against the rules because the match had already ended) treated like a display of fascism??? do you know what words mean???

say it with me folks: its! still! racist! to! send! threats! to! argentina! even! if! its! trendy! now!

I do not think that the Falklands/Malvinas are inherently British, I do not believe the British empire has a right to them or to any other land. I support any movements within the islands for independence as I support any movement for independence from Britain, anywhere in the world.

My perception that the idea of Argentina claiming the islands comes from the Argentine right was informed by Milei's claim that he was setting out a roadmap to reclaim the islands for Argentina, and for the fact that it is widely perceived that Galtieri engaged in the Falklands war in order to get nationalistic feelings inflamed and maintain power. I saw reflected in this the same instinct that imperialist powers are acting on when they start unnecessary forever wars to bolster their own power.

There is a lot of discussion about the islands that happens in this country that I find tasteless and imperialist and that is what I was trying to highlight. I was trying to add on that as well as the cruel jokes circulating about people starving in Argentina that OP referenced, I had seen a rise in rhetoric here in the UK that referenced the war- the Battle of Goose Green and the sinking of the Belgrano in particular- and glorified the conflict and the deaths of Argentinians, and that I thought that was reprehensible.

I think that the sinking of the General Belgrano, outside of the exclusion zone which Britain had defined, was wrong. I think to celebrate the deaths of anybody involved in the conflict is wrong.

I am unaware, and remain unaware, which I am about to embark on remedying, of the general feelings towards the islands by everyday people in Argentina.

I think that in an ideal world, there would be free trade and transit between the islands and Argentina as there is between the islands and Britain. I think that nationalist ideas get in the way of developing a situation for the islands that benefits the Falkland Islanders and benefits Argentina by allowing commerce between the two. I think that the way the borders of the Falklands affect the fishing industry in Argentina is bad and should be remedied.

I do not think, however, that a solution for the colonial occupation of the islands can be found in the annexation of the islands by any other power.

Argentina didn't have a slave trade, mainly because Argentina did not exist when slaves were brought into the territory. It was the colonizers from Spain that brought them in, and the number of slaves they brought with them doesn't even come close to the MILLIONS of people colonizers from Portugal brought in as slaves into what would go on to become Brazil. We are talking thousands versus literal millions.

Most importantly, shortly after the declaration of independence, slavery was abolished in 1853 — a full 12 years before this happened in the USA, and many decades before it even happened in Brazil. Before this, in 1813 it had already been declared that anyone born in Argentina was born free (Libertad de Vientres).

Argentina never had segregation. There were no laws stopping people with different skin color from marrying each other, from sharing common spaces, etc. This doesn't mean there was no injustice, Argentina was and still is a deeply classist country. Most forms of discrimination, therefore, are rooted in social class rather than race.

Because everyone was allowed to marry anyone regardless of skin color, and because throughout history Argentina received more working class immigrants from Europe than they did from other countries, and because throughout the course of history there were several wars, the black population dwindled in numbers. No, they were not sent as "blood sacrifice" any more than any other poor young men from the provinces were. In every war, young men were sent to the front lines so that the rich ones could stay behind. Which is something that happened in every single war throughout history.

The fact is that there was a true "mix" of genes. I've seen some people online twisting this to say that "forced whitening" is evil and it's further proof that every single person from Argentina deserves to die. It wasn't forced whitening. Immigrants integrated into society and part of that integration involved getting, well, involved with others regardless of where they came from.

There are studies that estimate that around 15% to 20% of argentines have reported to have african genes. The percentage could potentially be higher since many might be completely unaware of it. Retracing your genealogy is a bit hard when for many of us our great grand parents, or great great grandparents, came into the country with fake names because they were escaping fascist regimes from different parts of the world, or because when they arrived the names on their papers were written with "approximation phonetics" (what the workers thought the names were written like according to spanish phonemes, even if the names themselves weren't in spanish).

Like many countries in south america, Argentina is being governed by an alt-right president who openly denies the militar coups that happened in the country, has said tons of anti-human rights, anti LGBT and racist things, and among many other things doesn't defend the people of malvinas.

Because of geopolitical interests, the country is being marketed as "white and zionist" by many paid hacker/bot accounts and wide spread misinformation campaigns. (I want to link better sources here later)

I ask you to please consider before spreading this misinformation that when saying this, people are repeating a racist and xenophobic message that only helps and benefits a narrative which Milei and extreme alt-right people wish was true.

Defending Malvinas has been historically tied with anti-colonialism here. People who defend Malvinas, also empathize greatly with Palestinians reclaiming their territory from Israeli occupation. Argentina has historically support their rights to their land in UN votes. This is why Milei was so uncomfortable with the country showing Malvinas flags during the world cup. I'm short, his support for Israel also means he doesn't align with this historical UN positioning that both defended Malvinas and supported Palestine. ( X )

(Something that's also not being talked about much is that in Buenos Aires the government has been constantly deploying militarised cops to stop the celebrations of the world cup and repressing the people's celebrations. There's a deeply anti-patriotic* colonialist feeling tied to Milei's government.)

Milei has been governing through "DNU"s (an "urgency risk" type of decree that lets him skip steps to constitutionally abid laws) and doing tons of sketchy things that not only work agaisnt the country's insterests but straight up oppose them. He has even been seen reblogging posts about bombing the country via twitter. This group of politicians is extremely sketchy and it only makes sense they are where they are today because of external economic incentives. I really recommend people look up operation condor if you aren't familiar with south american coups.

I'm more familiar with my own country's issues, but I know Chile is experiencing this same fear where billionares (within them, Israeli and USA enterprises) want huge extensions of land in Patagonia to keep these resources. These alt-right governments only facilitate the process of "legalising" the extraction of the land via forcefully breaking previously settled constitutional laws against it.

By repeating the idea that the people of Argentina are only white and zionists, other countries are only isolating the local population who has been fighting against this and whom are dealing with nonstop violence and starvation policies this government has been slowly implementing since it began. (Think of this as saying a country with no LGBT laws = there's no LGBT people in that place.) That is only what the power wants you to see.

They wish everyone forgets about the Indigenous and Black population living in Argentina so no one looks for them when the government does things like letting native land burn illegally (to give it for pennies to these big enterprises), or incentivize violence against the population (Milei has been calling any dissidence terrorists and tons of degrading violent terminology, he has been targeting environmentalist and minorities a lot too.)

I hope this can help at least a little bit to give people a different point of view than the one being spread which is honestly scary for us. I'm trying to be brief so I'm sorry if I'm not addressing all of the problems but I think it's really important for people to look out for this. If not for my country for the future of Latin America.

I also invite other Argentinian people to talk about these issues in the comments with the intention of spreading information. I'll try linking to more information as time passes but I wanted to publish this while the cup was still going.